Jesus Returning, David's Throne, and the Stone of Destiny

by COGwriter

Stone of Destiny and Jesus' Return

Did you realize that when Jesus returns, He will take up the throne of David?

Is there a throne or part of it on the earth now? What about the throne of Scone, also called the "stone of destiny"?

(Here is a link to a related video: Stone of Destiny and Jesus' Return.)

Now, physically, in order to do this, Jesus needed to be a descendant of David.

And in Luke 3:31, the New Testament shows that Jesus was a descendant of David.

Now, let's look at some prophecies related to the throne of David:

45...King Solomon shall be blessed, and the throne of David shall be established before the Lord forever. (1 Kings 2:45)

2...Hear the word of the Lord, O king of Judah, you who sit on the throne of David, you and your servants and your people who enter these gates! (Jeremiah 22:2)

17 "For thus says the Lord: 'David shall never lack a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel; 18 nor shall the priests, the Levites, lack a man to offer burnt offerings before Me, to kindle grain offerings, and to sacrifice continually.'" (Jeremiah 33:17-18)

As far as Jesus and that throne goes, notice the following:

7 Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah 9:6-7)

5 "Behold, the days are coming," says the Lord,
"That I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness;
A King shall reign and prosper,
And execute judgment and righteousness in the earth.
6 In His days Judah will be saved,
And Israel will dwell safely;
Now this is His name by which He will be called:

THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Jeremiah 23:5-6)

The above passages make clear that the throne of David was to last and that Jesus, though He will sit on it, is not yet doing so. Thus, since scripture cannot be broken (John 10:35), then someone has to be on that throne now.

Someone has had to have been on that throne since the time of the Zedekiah (a contemporary of Jeremiah), the last king of Judah. And the royalty in the British Isles fits this. Let me also state that there have been Levites ever since Jeremiah 33:17-18--the fact that they do not do their original biblical role does NOT change the fact that they still exist.

Notice also a prophecy about Jesus and a throne:

13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. (2 Samuel 7:13)

16 And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever. (2 Samuel 7:16)

The idea that Jesus would return to the throne of David is NOT a 19th, 20th, or 21st century invention.

It is taught in the New Testament:

30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne, (Acts 2:30):

It should be understood that not only is this doctrine about Jesus assuming David's throne in the Bible, the idea that "Christ upon His return, will take over David’s throne" was believed by those who held to many Church of God doctrines in Transylvania during the late Middle Ages. (Marx G. The Beliefs and Practices of the Church of God in Transylvania During the Middle Ages, 1588-1623; see also Die Sabbatharier in Siebenburgen (The Sabbatarians in Transylvania) Ihre Geschichte, Literatur und Dogmatic (their story, literature and doctrines) ein Beitrag zur Religions und Kulturgeshichte der Juengsten Drei Jahrhunderte (a contribution to the religious and cultural history of the last three centuries) von (by) Dr. Samuel Kohn, printed in Leipzig, Germany in 1894).

There are reports about an object that may have travelled to Ireland and then Scotland:

Ancient Irish legends recount that in addition to the king’s daughters, Jeremiah brought with him "some national treasures from the Temple. The most important of these was the Lia Fail, or Stone of Destiny, Jacob’s stone" (Rogers, pp. 31–32). The Bible relates that Jacob, the forefather of the Israelite tribes, set up a stone pillar after making a covenant with God (Genesis 28:13–22). It was also a custom in ancient Israel to crown kings over a stone (Judges 9:6; 2 Kings 11:12–14).

The stone was later taken to Scotland by a king Fergus, and then to England. It has been used in all three countries for the coronation of monarchs—following the ancient Israelite custom. (Behind the Mists of Ireland. Tomorrow’s World magazine. Jan-Feb 2000).

Those of us with backgrounds in the old WCG basically believe that there is a connection between the old throne of Israel and the current throne of the British royal family. Whether or not it is the same stone has been questioned, however. It may be of interest to note that the Irish have various old traditions, including one that might be related to the Day of Atonement, that suggest they had ties to ancient Israel.

There is an old legend that makes a connection between the first Scottish kings and the children of Israel. Here is one 19th century report of it:

We have seen a late work on prophecy gravely affirming that the Prophet Jeremiah died in Ireland, having been forced hither by the wandering sons of Ephraim. One of the few unquestionable facts connected with early Irish history, is the intercourse between Ireland and the Phoenicians, through Spain. The Israelitish settlers, according to the tradition, carried with them Jacob's pillow or pillar, known as the Lia Fail or Stone of Destiny, which secured a perpetual monarchy to the people so happy as to possess it. This stone, at the crowning of the first king of the Scots in Scotland, was borrowed ... (The Christian remembrancer; or, The Churchman's Biblical, ecclesiastical & literary miscellany. 1864. Original from Oxford University, Digitized, Oct 5, 2006, p. 2).

The above legend is interesting as it may tie Ephraim in with the British Isles, and affirms the idea that Jeremiah also came to the isles. In the 43rd chapter of Jeremiah, Jeremiah is shown to be with the "king's daughters" (Jeremiah 43:1-6). The only two times the expressions "king's daughters" is used in the Bible, it is in the book written by Jeremiah (Jeremiah 41:10, 43:6). Presuming that Jeremiah took one or more of the "king's daughters" with him, this would be a way to fulfill the following prophecies:

10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah (Genesis 49:10).

5 I promised David your father, saying, 'You shall not fail to have a man on the throne of Israel.' (1 Kings 9:5)

The Davidic kingdom ended in Judah centuries BEFORE Christ came (around 586 B.C.), thus there had to be a way for the descendants of David to rule. And probably prior to the time the last true king of Judah died, his daughters (who seem to have been in the British Isles) likely married and had descendants to reign. Those who actually believe what the Bible teaches must realize that somehow God must have fulfilled His promises. And the British Isles seems to make the most historical sense to fulfill this.

Here is something that the then Duke of York, who later was King George VI of England from 11 December 1936 until his death on February 6, 1952, reportedly wrote in 1922:

... I am sure the British Israelite business is true. I have read a lot about it lately and everything no matter how large or small points to our being ’the chosen race.’ (George, Duke of York. Letter, 1922. Facsimile printed in The Independent, April 6, 1996 per Wikipedia, viewed 11/21/12)

So, even the last King of England believed in British-Israelism.

Notice the following, which is from part of the coronation ceremony of Ethelred the Second from the late 10th century (scriptures added with {} by me):

Here he shall be Anointed with oil {1 Samuel 10:1, 16:13; 1 Kings 1:39};

and this anthem shall be sung: — ' And Zadoc the priest, and Nathan the prophet, anointed ' Solomon king in Sion ; and, approaching him, they said, May ' the king live for ever ! {1 Kings 1:32-39}'…

The Sceptre shall be here given to him {Genesis 49:10; Numbers 24:17}… The Rod shall be here given to him {cf. Revelation 19"15}…

And He who ' is the key of David {Isaiah 22:22; Revelation 3:7}, and the sceptre of the house of Israel, ' who opens and no one can shut; who shuts and no one can ' open {Isaiah 22:22; Revelation 3:7}; may he be thy helper! {Psalm 30:10} (Turner S. The History of the Anglo-Saxons from the Earliest Period to the Norman Conquest, Volume 3, 6th edition. Longman, Rees, Orme, Brown, and Green, 1886. Original from Harvard University, Digitized Nov 1, 2007 pp 153-154)

The ancient kings of Israel were anointed (1 Samuel 15:1; 1 Kings 1:34) with oil (1 Samuel 16:13). Scepters were long recognized in the Bible as a symbol for ruling (Genesis 49:10; Ezekiel 19:14). The key of David is mentioned in both the Hebrew (Isaiah 22:22) and Greek scriptures (Revelation 3:7). Having all of these as part of a coronation ceremony may be more than a coincidence or simple imitation of what some later saw in the Bible.

As it turns out, it is has been asserted that the stone is in the British Isles and has ancient biblical connections. Here is something from the old Radio Church of God (items in {} are my additions):

Why is the stone under the royal chair in Westminster Abbey in London called "Jacob's Pillow Stone?" 

In Westminster Abbey is an intriguing stone, steel gray in color, mixed with red veins, twenty-two inches long, thirteen inches broad and eleven inches deep. Attached to each end is a worn iron ring by which the stone may be carried. This rock is not beautiful, yet it is more important than all the crown jewels! On it Elizabeth II was crowned.

For centuries the kings of Scotland — the ancestors of the present British royal family — were crowned upon it. Upon this stone the ancient Irish kings of this same royal family were also crowned, even as far back as five and one-half centuries before the birth of Jesus Christ.

What is the true significance of this rock? Where did it come from?

Ancient Irish annals prove the rock — which they called "Lia fail" meaning stone of destiny — did not originate in Ireland, but came by way of Spain from the East. It was brought by a white-haired old man — a prophet — who also brought a daughter of an Eastern king. Through her marriage to the king of Ireland, she not only continued her father's throne but also became the ancestor of a dynasty which has continued to Elizabeth II.

If you were to go to Westminster Abbey, you would see that this stone is labeled Jacob's pillow stone or Jacob's pillar stone! — traditionally the very stone upon which the patriarch Jacob rested his head that evening about 3700 years ago when fleeing from his father's house!

Here is the astonishing origin of the coronation stone!

Turn to Genesis 28:11-22. Here you read that Jacob, tired after miles of walking, stopped for the night and took one of the stones to serve as his pillows. After dreaming in his sleep, "Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took THE STONE that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it" (verse 18).

{ 10 Now Jacob went out from Beersheba and went toward Haran. 11 So he came to a certain place and stayed there all night, because the sun had set. And he took one of the stones of that place and put it at his head, and he lay down in that place to sleep. 12 Then he dreamed, and behold, a ladder was set up on the earth, and its top reached to heaven; and there the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. 13 And behold, the Lord stood above it and said: "I am the Lord God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and your descendants. 14 Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth; you shall spread abroad to the west and the east, to the north and the south; and in you and in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. 15 Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have spoken to you." 16 Then Jacob awoke from his sleep and said, "Surely the Lord is in this place, and I did not know it." 17 And he was afraid and said, "How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven!" 18 Then Jacob rose early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put at his head, set it up as a pillar, and poured oil on top of it. 19 And he called the name of that place Bethel; but the name of that city had been Luz previously. 20 Then Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, 21 so that I come back to my father's house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God. 22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God's house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You." Genesis 28:10-22}

This verse shows that Jacob used one particular stone. Although verse eleven of this chapter implies that Jacob used several stones, it is a mistranslation {in the old KJV}. The word "them" is in italics and not in the original Hebrew. It should be translated "and he took of the stones of that place, and put one for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep."

Now notice verse 22. Jacob poured oil on the stone and said: "And this stone, which I have set for a pillar shall be God's house." This stone was anointed, set aside to become a pillar or witness proving which is Gods house, which is the royal family God had chosen.

Many years later Jacob again speaks of this stone as a "shepherd."

Notice Genesis 49:1. Jacob called his sons together and told them what would befall them in our day, "in the last days." In verse 24, when speaking of Joseph's descendants he interjects by saying that from the tribe of Joseph — not Judah — will be found "the shepherd, the STONE of Israel."

{24 But his bow remained in strength, And the arms of his hands were made strong By the hands of the Mighty God of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel), Genesis 49:24}

This same rock — the coronation stone — accompanied the Israelites during their forty years wandering in the wilderness. Paul says in I Corinthians 10:4 that just as the Israelites had manna as a type of Christ, so they had, as a type of Christ, a rock which gave them water and which followed or went with them in their wanderings! Christ provides spiritual waters — the Holy Spirit, and Jacobs shepherd stone, a type of the Divine Shepherd, miraculously provided material water in the wilderness.

During those forty years the stone accompanied Israel. That is undoubtedly why the two iron rings fastened to either end are so worn. The stone and its rings could never have become worn by lying untouched in England's Westminster, or Scotland's Scone or in the halls of Tara in Ireland. It must have been worn during the wilderness wanderings.

As this stone is used in the coronation ceremonies to this day, let's turn to a scripture which proves that this pillar stone was used in the family of David in the days of ancient Israel.

Open your Bible to II Kings 11:14. The event mentioned here occurred at the time when Josiah was proclaimed king in the temple and when wicked Athaliah, who had usurped the throne, was about to meet her doom. Notice what it says: "And when Athaliah heard the noise of the guard and of the people, she came to the people into the temple of the Lord. And when she looked, behold" — what? "the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced, and blew with trumpets."

{ 1 When Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the royal heirs. 2 But Jehosheba, the daughter of King Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him away from among the king's sons who were being murdered; and they hid him and his nurse in the bedroom, from Athaliah, so that he was not killed. ... 12 And he brought out the king's son, put the crown on him, and gave him the Testimony; they made him king and anointed him, and they clapped their hands and said, "Long live the king!" 13 Now when Athaliah heard the noise of the escorts and the people, she came to the people in the temple of the Lord. 14 When she looked, there was the king standing by a pillar according to custom; and the leaders and the trumpeters were by the king. All the people of the land were rejoicing and blowing trumpets. So Athaliah tore her clothes and cried out, "Treason! Treason!" 2 Kings 11:1-2, 12-14}

So it was the manner or custom even in that day to have the pillar of stone — Jacob's pillar stone — used in the coronation ceremonies!

But how did that stone finally reach London, England, where it may be seen today?

The World today, in its ignorance, looks upon any government or throne as deriving its power from human authority, little realizing that it is God who sets up rulers and who breaks down thrones. Almost 3000 years ago God made an amazing promise whereby David's dynasty would continue ruling through all generations and that he should never lack an individual to reign upon his throne. "I have sworn unto my servant David, Thy seed will I establish forever, and build up thy throne to all generations" (Psalm 89:3-4).

"David shall never want [lack] a man to sit upon the throne of the home of Israel" (Jer. 33:17). Notice it reads "the house of Israel," not the "house of Judah." Remember that after the days of Solomon, the children of Israel were divided into two houses, the House of Judah and the House of Israel. The throne of David ruled in the House of Judah until the days of Zedekiah. When the throne of David apparently was at an end, God caused the prophet Jeremiah to take king Zedekiah's daughters (Jer. 43:5-7) and Jacobs pillar stone with him to transplant the throne of David from Judah to the House of Israel where Jacob prophesied the stone of destiny would be found in our day!

Jacob said that the stone which he anointed would be a pillar — a witness proving which is the house, the nation, the royal family that God has chosen. That stone is found today in England — in London's Westminster Abbey.

The world may scoff and sneer at the truth, the world may deny the facts of history, but Queen Elizabeth is ruling over part of Israel — the tribe of Ephraim. She sits upon the throne of David! — the very throne that Jesus Christ shall take when he returns to rule the world. "And the Lord God shall give unto him [Jesus] the THRONE OF HIS FATHER DAVID: and he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever" (Luke 1:32-33).

{32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end. Luke 1:32-33}

Yes, on the throne of England reigns a daughter of David, a descendant of King Zedekiah's daughter whom Jeremiah the prophet took to Ireland together with the stone of destiny. From the marriage of that young princess has descended a dynasty that has ruled Ireland, Scotland and England for over 2500 years! And all of them have been crowned over the some of destiny, Jacob's pillow stone. (Plain Truth Staff. The Bible Answers Short Questions From Our Readers. Plain Truth Magazine July 1959)

As it turns out, my family and I saw the stone in Westminster Abby back in 1993.


1855 Sketch of the coronation throne and Stone of Scone

Now, the stone has been temporarily moved from there:

In 1996, in a symbolic response to growing dissatisfaction among Scots at the prevailing constitutional settlement, the British Government decided that the stone should be kept in Scotland when not in use at coronations. On 3 July 1996, it was announced in the House of Commons that the stone would be returned to Scotland, and on 15 November 1996, after a handover ceremony at the border between representatives of the Home Office and of the Scottish Office, it was transported to Edinburgh Castle. The stone arrived in the Castle on 30 November 1996. (Stone of Stone, Wikipedia access 06/30/18)

Jesus will have a throne and return as King.

28 So Jesus said to them, "Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matthew 19:28)

21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. (Revelation 3:21)

15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!" (Revelation 11:15)

13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (Revelation 19:13)

Whether or not Jesus returns to the 'stone of destiny,' the Bible teaches that after He returns Jesus will be sitting on the throne of David.

Here is a link to a related video: Stone of Destiny and Jesus' Return.

Hill of Tara and Tea Tephi

Between 1899 and 1902 a British-Israelites dug the Hill of Tara in their quest to find the Ark of the Covenant.

Why here?

There is a reference in the non-canonical Book of 2nd Maccabees that God told the prophet Jeremiah to go and take the ark of the covenant and hide them.

There is another legend that Jeremiah took it with him when he and the daughters of the Zedekiah the King of Judah went to Egypt.
Biblically, we know that Jeremiah and the king’s daughters went to Egypt:

6 men, women, children, the king's daughters, and every person whom Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard had left with Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan, and Jeremiah the prophet and Baruch the son of Neriah. 7 So they went to the land of Egypt (Jeremiah 43:6-7)

Afterwards, some believe that Jeremiah and at least one of the king’s daughters went to Ireland. What else Jeremiah may have taken is not clear, but some believe he took the coronation stone, known as the Lia Fail, with him.

Lia means stone and fail means fate/destiny.

So, it is considered the stone of destiny, or perhaps the stone of prophecy.

There is something that is called ‘the stone of help’ Samuel had (1 Samuel 7:12) and this could be that same stone (Jeremiah, Ireland: CHAPTER VI. IRELAND (Tara)"www.originofnations.org.)

Some believe that the stone was Jacob’s pillar stone (Genesis 28:18).

Additionally some believe that the stone was “the place” where King Josiah made a covenant to obey God as told in the following:

31 Then the king stood in his place and made a covenant before the Lord, to follow the Lord, and to keep His commandments and His testimonies and His statutes with all his heart and all his soul, to perform the words of the covenant that were written in this book. (2 Chronicles 34:31)

Some believe that Jeremiah took the daughter of the last king of Judah to Ireland. Here is a report from the Irish Times:

Tea (Teia) Tephi … was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Jerusalem (588 BC) and was taken to Tanis … by Jeremiah the Prophet, … from there brought, via Gibraltar, to Ireland where she landed at Howth on June 18th, 583 BC and was crowned at Cathair Crofinn (now Tara) as Queen of Ireland. She ruled Ireland by The Torah (God's Laws) given to Moses and Israel at Sinai, the originals of which are kept in the Ark (with copies being in your Bibles). …Tea changed the name Crofinn to Torah which became Taueragh in Anglo-Norman and is now Tara. (Hill JA. Myths At Tara? Irish Times, July 8, 1998)

Historical records and the Book of Jeremiah (43:5-7) indicate that, at the fall of Jerusalem in 588 BC, the prophet Jeremiah and (possibly) the family of the king escaped to Egypt, which included a princess, Teia Tephi. This uprooting and (later) planting (in another country?) done by Jeremiah, is seen by some to fulfil God's prophecy through Ezekiel in chapter 21:26 where God promised to: "exalt him that is low (line of Zarah - Eochaidh) and abase him that is high (line of Pharez - Zedekiah)." …

Teia Tephi arrived … near Ath Cliath (Dublin), in Ireland on the 18th June 583 BC. She was greeted there by Eochaidh, the High king (Ard ri - Heremon) …

Teia Tephi was then escorted to Cathair Crofinn (The Hill of Tara), where she arrived on 20th June 583 B.C. and was escorted to the house that had already been prepared for her there.
At Tara, there were a number of priests of the satanic Baal-religion who had erected a phallic-pillarstone as part of their worship of the mythical gods of pagan Baal fertility. Teia Tephi ordered that the obscene stone phallus be removed immediately and the Bethel Stone / Lia Fail (God's Throne of Israel) be put in its place on the Forrad (Inauguration Mound). (Abraham and The Lost Tribes: The Legend of Teia Tephi, Queen of Ireland. Colours of My Life, accessed 05/02/22 http://www.pocketoz.com.au/colours/covenant_tephi.html)

Some believe that with Tea Tephi (of the Pharez) and her descendants marrying one of the Zarah line, the throne of David was then in Ireland.

Why?

Because God promised David his throne would continue. Notice something from Psalm 89, which said it was compiled:

3 "I have made a covenant with My chosen, I have sworn to My servant David: 4 'Your seed I will establish forever, And build up your throne to all generations.'" (Psalm 89:3-4)

So, this was to be to all generations—not, for example, that it ended when Jesus returned.

Now, the final writer in Psalm 89 seemingly thought that it had not been fulfilled as he also wrote:

38 But You have cast off and abhorred, You have been furious with Your anointed. 39 You have renounced the covenant of Your servant; You have profaned his crown by casting it to the ground. (Psalm 89:38-39)

That psalmist also blamed sin for the lack of a king he was aware of, but overlooked the statements in Genesis 38 about the twins of Judah fathered named Pharez and Zarah—which we will cover later.

By the time of Ezra, there were no kings in Judea—as there were none after Zedekiah.

In 2 Samuel 7:12-16, God promises that the line of David and the throne would continue, even if his descendants sinned and turned away from him.

But, where were they? Well they were in the British Isles, particularly Ireland.

Let’s go over some more of what seems to have happened:

The Lia Fail Stone that Teia Tephi brought with her from Jerusalem stayed in Ireland, on the Forrad (Inauguration Mound), at Tara, for more than a thousand years and all of the Irish kings were crowned upon the Stone up to c. 500 A.D. It was then loaned to Fergus, the brother of Muircheartach (Murdoch) king of Ireland, who had emigrated to Scotland and wanted to be crowned king of the Irish who had settled there and had become Scottish.

The Stone was not returned to Tara and stayed in Scotland, where it was called the Stone of Destiny (English for Lia Fail) and all of the Scottish kings were crowned upon it, until 1296 A.D. when Edward the first of England "Longshanks" invaded Scotland; defeated the Scots and took the Stone, from Scone Abbey near Perth, to London where all of the English kings were subsequently crowned in Westminster Abbey upon the Stone of Destiny, (Abraham and The Lost Tribes: The Legend of Teia Tephi, Queen of Ireland. Colours of My Life, accessed 05/02/22 http://www.pocketoz.com.au/colours/covenant_tephi.html)

Some believe that the stone was actually kept in Ireland and a substitute was sent.  The stone that currently is in Scotland, that King Edward I had brought to Westminster Abby in the late 1200s, is made from red sandstone, but does not look red at all. Some say it really came from Scone, Scotland—but if so, then the one or more of the transfer legends are in error. It should be understood that there is red sandstone in Haran, where Jacob’s pillar originated, as well as many other places in the Middle East, including Petra. So, it is possible that the stone in Scotland may have come from Jeremiah, but that is not dogma as we have not forensically examined it ourselves to determine its original location.

It perhaps should also be noted that Irish legend says the stone went to Ireland from Scotland. Furthermore:

Still another interesting legend surrounding this mystical stone suggests that as King Edward I approached the palace, the monks of Scone hurriedly removed the Stone of Destiny and hid it, replacing it with another stone of similar size and shape. And it was this which the English King carried off in triumph back to London. (Johnson B. The Stone of Destiny. Historic UK. https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofScotland/The-Stone-of-Destiny/ accessed 05/06/22)

That being said, we do not believe a sun worshipping or phallic stone like the one on top of the platform at Lia Fail could be a stone that Jeremiah would have brought.

Now back to the Bible.

In Genesis 38:26-30, the Bible shows that Judah’s son Zarah was to have the birthright blessing as he stuck his hand out of the womb first and the midwife put a red thread on his hand. The Bible then tells that Pharez came out before him.

Now related to that here is a report:

Pharez, having taken the birthright from his brother Zarah, carried the tribal (family) name of Judah, from which came King David … The descendants of his brother, Zarah of the 'Red Hand', having lost the Birthright, went into exile and migrated to Heberia (now known as Iberia or Spain). … From there many of them fled across the water to Ireland (Hebernia; the Hebrews' new-land and the Hebrides - Hebrew's Isles). Some of their descendants migrated from Ireland to Scotland …

Eochaidh was from the Zarah (of the 'Red Hand') branch and Teia Tephi was from the line of David of the Pharez branch of Judah, their marriage-union sealed the "breach" caused centuries earlier when Judah's twin sons had been born. This marriage-union, that took place at "Rath na ri" (the Fort of the kings) at Tara, in Royal Meath, is symbolised on the Ulster flag, where the 'Red Hand' of Zarah is mounted upon the 'Star of David' under the single Royal Crown, symbolizing the union of the two royal lines, that sprang from Judah. (Abraham and The Lost Tribes: The Legend of Teia Tephi, Queen of Ireland. Colours of My Life, accessed 05/06/22 http://www.pocketoz.com.au/colours/covenant_tephi.html)

The red hand and other symbols tie the royal family in the British Isles to ancient Israel.

Anyway, if there is a real stone, Jesus will know which one is and where it is.

Here is a link to a related video: Lia Fail and the British Monarchy.

Where and When?

As far as where Jesus will initially return to, notice the following:

4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south. (Zechariah 14:4)

10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven." 12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey. (Acts 1:10-12)

Jesus will return.

Related to Jesus' return, we have uploaded a sermonette-length video:

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Is Jesus’ Second Coming Soon?

Jesus’ disciples asked when He would return, and Jesus said a great trumpet would accompany His second coming. World Net Daily had an article titled “Second Coming? The ‘1000-year day- timetable says soon” on June 8, 2020. The article by Scott Lively cited the Apostle Peter’s words in Acts 2 and 2 Peter 3. Plus, Hosea 6. Jewish Talmudic writings, based on a tradition from the school of Elijah, pointed to humans living for 6,000 years to be followed by a 1,000 year Messianic period. That sounds consistent with the six days of work followed by a seventh day Sabbath (Exodus 20), the six years of working the land followed by a one year land Sabbath (Leviticus 25), aspects of the biblical holy days (Leviticus 23), and millennial passages in the New Testament (Revelation 20:1-6). When might the last days have started? Could Jesus return within months as Scott Lively speculates in his article or at least seven years from now? Why might 2031 be a possible date for the end of the 6,000 years and the return of Jesus? Dr. Thiel goes over these issues and more.

Here is a link to our video: Is Jesus’ Second Coming Soon?

As far as when, it will be at the last trumpet (the seventh of those mentioned in the Book of Revelation) and after the fulness of the Gentiles comes in per the Apostle Paul:

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins." (Romans 11:25-27)

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed — 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory."

55 "O Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?"

56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 15:50-57)

Regarding Romans 11:25-27 check out the article: What About Romans 11:25 and the Full Number of the Gentiles? (you can also watch Gentiles and When Will Jesus Return?).

The Apostle Paul further wrote:

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)

Comfort one another with these words.

Jesus will return. He knows whether or not He will use a particular stone for His throne.

As far as when the last trumpet can be blown, check out the article: When Will the Great Tribulation Begin?

Thiel B. Jesus Returning, David's Throne, and the Stone of Destiny. http://www.cogwriter.com/jesus-throne-return.htm (c) 2018/2019/2020 / 2022 0524

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