Vatican City (photo by Joyce Thiel)
The Church of Rome is complaining about problems with the USA White House:
May 22, 2012
Dolan: White House is “strangling” Catholic church
(CBS News) The spat between Catholic leaders and the Obama administration over its contraception policies is heating up again, with one of the nation’s most prominent Catholic leaders charging that the White House is “strangling” the church over the matter.
Timothy Cardinal Dolan told “CBS This Morning” Tuesday that the compromise reached earlier this year is not sufficient because the exemptions made for churches are too restrictive.
“They tell us if you’re really going be considered a church, if you’re going to be really exempt from these demands of the government, well, you have to propagate your Catholic faith and everything you do, you can serve only Catholics and employ only Catholics,” Dolan said.
“We’re like, wait a minute, when did the government get in the business of defining for us the extent of our ministry,” Dolan said. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57438959/dolan-white-house-is-strangling-catholic-church/?tag=stack
Catholic groups take fight against Obama birth-control rules to court
Some 43 Catholic groups including Notre Dame are attempting to block rules in the new health-care law that require health insurance to provide access to birth-control services…
Catholic organizations objected to the rules, arguing that they placed religious employers in the untenable position of subsidizing a mode of conduct that would violate their religious teachings and moral values.
“We have tried negotiation with the Administration and legislation with Congress – and we’ll keep at it – but there’s still no fix. Time is running out,” said Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, in a statement applauding the litigation. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0521/Catholic-groups-take-fight-against-Obama-birth-control-rules-to-court
Catholic suit against Obama birth control rules…
Cardinal Timothy Dolan, whose New York diocese is among those filing suit, has reason to feel burned by Obama personally; the president had assured him that the exemption would be broad, and instead he got broad-sided. Dolan told the Catholic News Service, “We tried negotiations with the administration…and we’ll keep at it .”…
Several of those on staff at the conference previously worked for conservative interest groups, and a faction of vocal anti-Obama bishops so disdain the president that one recently compared him to Hitler. The bishops conference regularly complains that it doesn’t have high-level access to the White House, but is it any wonder? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/catholic-suit-against-obama-birth-control-rules-both-sides-are-wrong/2012/05/22/gIQAfuYrhU_blog.html
Although I disagree with the Church of Rome theological position about several forms of birth control, I do agree that the government of the USA has gone well beyond its constitutional limits on this issue and should not be requiring the Catholics (or anyone else, including private employers) to violate their beliefs.
The fact that the Catholics have had to file lawsuits against the government of the USA shows that they are a severe odds with the federal government, or at least what the Obama Administration is doing. This will leave a bad taste in the mouth of the Vatican, and will likely simply be one of many factors to get it to support the ultimate destruction of the USA. This, BTW, is also consistent with certain private Catholic prophecies. Here are a few:
Saint Edward (d. 1066) “The extreme corruption and wickedness of the English nation has provoked the just anger of God. When malice shall have reached the fullness of its measure, God will, in His wrath, send to the English people wicked spirits, who will punish and afflict them with great severity…” (Culleton, p. 137).
Werdin d’ Otrante (13th century): “The Great Monarch and the Great Pope will precede Antichrist…All the sects will vanish. The capital of the world will fall…The Great Monarch will come and restore peace and the Pope will share in the victory.” (Connor, p. 33)
It is possible that Washington D.C. is “the capital of the world” that is prophesied to fall by Werdin d’ Otrante. And Canada is a close ally.
Zachary the Armenian (published 1854 and summarized in 2010): And then there would be the war that the prophecy refers to as “the struggle of the strong, against the strong”. This empire of the north…will go to war against North America and North America will be fall and be conquered and brought into bondage. The next phase is the most frightful thing of all. It is then that Zachary says this text published in 1854, “and then the whole world fell under the dominion of the first born of hell.” (Originally by Priest Fattecelli, Day of Anger: The Hand of God Upon an Empire, 1854, as paraphrased by Priest P. Kramer, What are the missing contents of the third secret? Fatima Crusader, 95, Summer 2010, pp. 45-46)
North America would clearly include the USA and Canada (the above and other prophecies are in my new book, Fatima Shock! What the Vatican Does Not Want You to Know About Fatima, Dogmas of Mary, and Future Apparitions). Since Zachary is discussing the dominion of the first born son of perdition (cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12), the above is clearly teaching that this would happen at the start of the Great Tribulation. This is consistent with the understanding of the Living Church of God on these matters (though we do not believe that God inspired this Zachary).
Notice two private prophecies that specify Canada (the second is apparently not from a Catholic, but also involves the USA):
Josyp Terelya from the Ukraine while in Marmora Ontario (September 13, 1992 allegedly from a Marian apparition): Pray in this chapel for peace and for love in this country of Canada. People are not aware that the prophesied times are upon them…you are on the threshold of the day of judgment. (Flynn, p. 287)
Alois Irlmaier of Freilassing, Germany (prior to 1959): Suddenly…large naval forces are positioned in a hostile way in the Mediterranean Sea – the situation is tense…Then war breaks out…Meanwhile, the yellow dragon invades Alaska and Canada at the same time. (Araujo, pp. 116-117)
Notice also the following (bolding in the original):
Our blessed Mother through Father Gobbi of the Marion Movement…provided several messages…
On November 15, 1990: Mary spoke about the great trial coming to the United States and for all humanity. The Blessed Mother specifically mentions the United States will know the hour of weakness and of poverty as well as “the hour of suffering and defeat”. The thunder of God’s justice will have arrived:
…”…Sins of impurity have become ever more widespread, and immorality has spread like a sea which has submerged all things. Homosexuality, a sin of impurity which is against nature, has been justified; recourse to the means of preventing life have become commonplace, while abortions,–these killings of innocent children–have spread and are performed in all areas of your homeland. The moment of divine justice and of great mercy has now arrived. You will know the hour of weakness and poverty; the hour of suffering and defeat; the purifying hour of the great chastisement…” America will know poverty and defeat! Those are strong statements made by the Virgin herself. (Flynn, pp. 341,342).
The “hour of trial” that the Bible speaks of (Revelation 3:10) seems to begin with the Great Tribulation, the “time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7) which is likely to begin sometime next decade (see Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2012, 2013, or 2014?). Catholic prophecy certainly has prophecies indicating the destruction of the USA in the end time.
Although European instability will likely remain for a time, Bible prophecy indicates that order will ultimately come at least to part of Europe—the part that will be led by a strong Beast power and overseen by the Catholic Church (see Revelation 13 and 17)!
The Bible shows that the King of the North, European Beast power, will ultimately takeover the land of the strongest fortresses (Daniel 11:39)–which currently is the USA. The late Herbert W. Armstrong warned back in 1948 (the agreement he is referring to at first may not be one known to the general public):
There will be an agreement by which the police of the state will ENFORCE Catholicism upon all citizens inside its jurisdiction. The description of this new superstate is found in Revelation 17, a union of ten nations in Europe. It is pictured as the “BEAST”–which even footnotes in the Catholic Douay Bible admit is THE ROMAN EMPIRE…Thus once this EMPIRE is revived in Europe…the new-born…military power will without warning DESTROY AMERICAN AND BRITISH CITIES OVERNIGHT WITH ATOMIC BOMBS, conquering our peoples, taking our survivors to Europe as THEIR SLAVES! (Armstrong HW. Now it Can Be Told. The Plain Truth magazine. December 1948, p. 6)
Getting the Church of Rome upset enough to file lawsuits against the government in the USA is simply another step that alienates the Vatican from the USA, and will get it to cooperate more with Europe. That, combined with biblical and Catholic prophecy, suggests that the Church of Rome will somehow support the destruction of the USA.
The Church of Rome was in the news today, also, for some comments from Pope Benedict XVI:
Pope tells cardinals, ‘We are on the Lord’s team, the winning team’…
“We are on the Lord’s team, the winning team,” Pope Benedict XVI told members of the College of Cardinals…Pope Benedict told the cardinals he knows the phrase “the church militant” is “a bit out of fashion” today, but it still reflects a truth about the place of a Christian in the world. http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202100.htm
Perhaps it should be noted that while the Lord’s team will be the ultimate winning team, the Church of Rome will gain for a while (it believes that Marian apparitions will be a factor for that, see the book Fatima Shock! What the Vatican Does Not Want You to Know About Fatima, Dogmas of Mary, and Future Apparitions.), yet it has strayed too much from original Christianity to truly be be on the Lord’s team. And in many senses, is too militant (see Persecutions by Church and State and Military Service and the Churches of God: Do Real Christians Participate in Carnal Warfare?).
While some Catholic positions, such as opposing abortion, are biblical (despite the fact that some popes have supported abortion in the past, for details see Abortion, the Bible, and a Woman’s Right to Choose), most who claim Catholicism have no idea how many doctrines their church has changed from the beliefs held by Jesus, the apostles, and the earliest professors of Christ. But this can be known by those interested in the documented truth (for details, see the article Which Is Faithful: The Roman Catholic Church or the Living Church of God?).
There will be more of a split between the Church of Rome and the USA in the future. And that will end up in the destruction of the USA.
Some articles of possibly related interest may include:
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe?
Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Is the German Defense Minister one to watch? What do Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest?
Catholic Prophecies: Do They Mirror, Highlight, or Contradict Biblical Prophecies? People of all faiths may be surprised to see what various Roman and Orthodox Catholic prophets have been predicting as many of their predictions will be looked to in the 21st century.
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies for the Great Monarch point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
Prophecies of Barack Obama? Eight reasons why Barack Obama is apocalyptic and eight reasons why Barack Obama is not the Antichrist. This article includes many biblical and non-biblical prophecies, from around the world, that seem to discuss Barack Obama. Did Nostradamus predict Barack Obama dealing with the Antichrist? Might Barack Obama set the stage for the kings of the North and South as at least one Shiite prophecy suggests? This is the longest and most complete article on this page on Barack Obama prophecies. Read it and decide for yourself if President Obama seems to be fulfilling various prophecies.
2012 – Ten Fulfilled Barack Obama Prophecies Barack Obama has already helped fulfill 10 predictions in 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect. Here is a YouTube video on ten.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States Some claim that Barack Obama is the prophesied “son of Kenya”, based up an early 20th century writing.
Which Is Faithful: The Roman Catholic Church or the Living Church of God? Do you know that both groups shared a lot of the earliest teachings? Do you know which church changed? Do you know which group is most faithful to the teachings of the apostolic church? Which group best represents true Christianity? This documented article answers those questions. Português: Qual é fiel: A igreja católica romana ou a igreja viva do deus? Tambien Español: Cuál es fiel: ¿La iglesia católica romana o La Iglesia del Dios Viviente? Auch: Deutsch: Welches zuverlässig ist: Die Römisch-katholische Kirche oder die lebende Kirche von Gott?
Persecutions by Church and State This article documents some that have occurred against those associated with the COGs and some prophesied to occur. Will those with the cross be the persecutors or the persecuted–this article has the shocking answer.
Christian Soldiers How are Christians to be like soldiers? How are they to be different?
Military Service and the Churches of God: Do Real Christians Participate in Carnal Warfare? Here are current and historical perspectives on a matter which show the beliefs of the true church on military participation. Is war proper for Christians?
Fatima Shock! What the Vatican Does Not Want You to Know About Fatima, Dogmas of Mary, and Future Apparitions. Whether or not you believe anything happened at Fatima, if you live long enough, you will be affected by its ramifications (cf. Isaiah 47; Revelation 17). Fatima Shock! is a highly documented book by Bob Thiel for those interested in the real truth about Fatima and how future apparitions may affect the future.