KT zu Guttenberg making statements consistent with 666

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (photo by Michael Lucan)


Received the following in an email from a reader today:

Hello Dr. Bob,

I recently found an interesting YouTube video of Karl Zu Guttenberg at speaking at a Crypto Finance convention where he spoke about blockchain and it’s work towards being accepted and used by international governments. He said some interesting things, but one of the most interesting things was that he spoke about there being two main systems in the world at the moment, one being the American or western system that is waning and then the Chinese system rising up. He at one point says that these two systems are like to great mountains. He said that the EU could be a third system but it doesn’t really know what it is, whether that be a small mountain, a valley or a growing mountain.

He also spoke about how China is making alliances through it’s belt and road initiative and was making inroads with Africa. He said that China is the one that is influencing the tech standards that will ultimately be utilised the world over and this seems to worry him. He speaks disparagingly about Donald Trump, not wanting to mention his name and talking how America isn’t making any alliances and says that Europe isn’t capable of doing this.

Overall, it’s easy to see what direction KT Zu Guttenberg will go if he is the one who will eventually be the King of the North. He will want Europe to be the tech standards setters for the world. I also think his analogy of avalanches was quite revealing in light of Bible prophecy, because we know that when everything happens at the end, it will all happen very fast.

It also at times seems as if he knows he will be the one to do this like when he ask rhetorically “who wI’ll be the one to do this” with regards to setting the standards and when he spoke about the two main competing systems being America and China and mentioned that their could be an entirely new system come along inthe the future. It makes me think if he is the one, that he actually may believe himself to be the prophesied great monarch the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox look forward too, just as one of the Catholic prophecies you have listed in your Great Monarch article that states “he will be cognizant of the prophecies” and Daniel 8:23 “he will understand dark sentences”.

On another topic that is also related. I saw a news report about Manfred Weber and the other potential leaders of the EU commission and how there was some disagreement because Weber wishes the EU to have a multinational EU army. I cannot find the news report now, but a few months ago I actually found out that Weber and Zu Guttenberg are quite good friends from their time in German politics together. Weber actually contacts Zu Guttenberg for advice at times he stated in the article and has asked him to be more involved in politics. Do you think it could be possible that Zu Guttenberg could help strengthen a covenant with many from the outside through his advice? One reason I ask this is because of one of the Catholic prophecies you have listed in one of your articles.

Bernhardt Rembordt (18th century). “Cologne will be the site of a terrible battle … At that time France will be divided. The German Empire will choose a simple man as the Emperor, who will rule for a short time. His successor will be the man for whom the world has longed. He will be called a “Roman Emperor,” and he will give peace to the world. A good and happy era will follow. God will be praised on earth, and war will be no more.” (Dupont, pp.34-35)

The short time this German is meant to rule before having a successor that will bring peace made me think of Daniel 11:20-21:

20 “There shall arise in his place one who imposes taxes on the glorious kingdom; but within a few days he shall be destroyed, but not in anger or in battle. 21 And in his place shall arise a vile person, to whom they will not give the honor of royalty; but he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue.

If Mr Weber was to become leader and rule for a short time, maybe he would be the one to actually make the covenant but KT Zu Guttenberg may somehow play a part in strengthening it after he rises or by advice that He gives Manfred Weber during the making of the covenant; though this all relies on the speculation that Zu Guttenberg indeed will become the man of sin, as we must continue to watch. I also looked up what Manfred Weber’s name means and what I found was fascinating to say the least.


Pron.MAN-freht(German, Polish) MAHN-frət(Dutch)  [key · IPA]

Meaning & History

Derived from the Germanic elements magan “strength” and frid“peace”.
This is the meaning of Webber:
Webber (/ˈwɛbər/) is an English occupational surname meaning weaver.

So, as a whole Manfred Weber’s name means “Strength Peace Weaver” or how about “Strong Peace Weaver”? Sounds like a name someone who would prophetically weave a firm peace covenant with many could have! (Dan 9:27). Maybe this German is worth watching first and see if he keeps close ties with KT Zu Guttenberg.

I also saw some footage from a recent Spitzencandidaten debate and in it Manfred Webber was pushing for the formation of an EU army but Franz Timmerman is against it. One of the other candidates wants a fully integrated EU army with 20,000 people by 2024. This time frame fits the Hoses 6:2 prophecy timeframes earliest time for the Great Tribulation to begin if Jesus ministry was during the 4000th year.

Another interesting thing about Manfred Weber is that He is an absolutely staunch Catholic! With somebody like himself as President of the Commission, it is easy to see closer ties between the Church of Rome and the European political establishment.

This is Zu Guttenbergs talk at the Crypto Finance Convention: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38Rr8-hF44

Here is an article talking about Mr Weber calling for an EU army:

Here is what I responded with:

Dear … :

Interesting. …

To answer your direct question, yes, Herr Guttenberg could strengthen the covenant through his advice.

Somehow the “prince” of Daniel 9:26-27–whether or not he is Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg–will confirm the covenant for a period of seven years (the “one week” of Daniel 9:27). And he will confirm it in a way that most, including most in the Protestant, Catholic, and Church of God worlds will not properly recognize/understand.

Most of Roman and Eastern Catholics, as well as most of the Protestants, will end up following the “prince” (one way or the other).

Yet, since most Church of God Christians are expected to be Laodicean (or part of Sardis) during the first 3 1/2 years after the covenant is confirmed, they will not recognize what is happening (see The ‘Peace Deal’ of Daniel 9:27 as well as The Laodicean Church Era and The Sardis Church Era).

As Jesus only promised to protect the Philadelphian Christians from the coming “hour of trial” (Revelation 3:10; see also There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Near Petra and The Philadelphia Church Era), it is clear that most Christians will NOT understand Daniel 9:27 until it is basically too late to flee.

As far as the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative (also known as the new Silk Road project) and Europe goes, we recently made the video China’s Silk Road and Babylon the Great. Interestingly, I saw the following this morning:

The eagle has conveniently forgotten that the original, Ancient Silk Road linked the dragon with the Roman empire for centuries … https://consortiumnews.com/2019/05/06/pepe-escobar-the-eagle-the-bear-and-the-dragon/

If you read the article above, it is clearly calling the USA the eagle. Few have been understanding what is happening with the Silk Road project. Herr Guttenberg, according to your comments, seems to be one, however, who is understanding some of this.

As far as Donald Trump goes, he has been a critic of him since at least 2015 when Baron Guttenberg called Donald Trump “that blonde lunatic named Donald” (see also Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North?). Since Donald Trump is not liked in many parts of Europe, Europeans would be inclined to listen to critics of Donald Trump.

As far as Manfred Weber goes, we will see what happens after the EU elections later this month. As a Bavarian politician (and, of course, Herr Guttenberg is Bavarian), he is one with potential.

And yes, while there is division in the EU:

  1. Europe will end up with a “great army” (Daniel 11:25)–with PESCO (watch PESCO and a Great European Army) proof that they are already taking steps.
  2. Franz Timmerman is one of MANY EU leaders that are pushing for Europe to reorganize–and ultimately we know that will happen per Revelation 17:12-13)–and our most recent video mentions that and specifically also Franz Timmerman–watch  EU leaders pushing towards the Apocalypse.
  3. Roads from China to Europe go both ways, which we have pointed out (watch ).

Anyway, many steps are in process of happening which are leading to the fulfillment of numerous biblical end time prophecies. Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg keeps making statements indicating that he will somehow support, or possibly lead, what will arise in Europe.

Best regards,

Bob Thiel

As regular readers of this COGwriter Church of God News page are aware, I have been covering Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg since late 2009 (see also Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North?).

Back in 2017, a man holding a banner in the small Bavarian town of Kulmbach that called Herr Guttenberg: “The saviour of us all.” https://www.ft.com/content/14073d00-8f11-11e7-a352-e46f43c5825d

Of course, Jesus is the Saviour (1 Timothy 4:10; Acts 4:10-12; 2 Peter 3:17-18). But the Bible warns about a Beast that will appear to many, particularly in Europe, as the one who will deliver them from problems (e.g. Daniel 11:23-24) and that will be worshiped (Revelation 13:1-8).

There are certain “Catholic” prophecies about a leader often called the “Great Monarch,” who is supposed to save Catholicism and become the Emperor of an end-time “Holy Roman Empire” (see also The Great Monarch: Biblical and Catholic Prophecies).

Now, let me mention why I decided to put “666” in the title of today’s post.

After writing my response to the man who emailed me about him, I went to Wikipedia to see if there was a different photograph of Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg that I could use.

And there was, and that is the one shown at the beginning of this post.

Now, when I went to save the photograph, Wikipedia had the following as part of the recommended file name for the photo: CSU_KT_zu_Guttenberg_666

Yes, “666” was part of the file name for this photograph.


The Bible teaches the following about 666:

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. (Revelation 13:16-18)

As one involved in”blockchain” (watch Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666), Herr Guttenberg may well at least assist with the 666 plan to control buying and selling, even if he is NOT the Beast of Revelation 13.

As far as possibly being the Beast of Revelation 13:1-10, Baron zu Guttenberg even has referred to himself as a type of a beast:

There’s no doubt whatsoever that I’m a political animal, a ‘zoon politicon’,” he told Die Zeit newspaper in what appeared to be a carefully orchestrated comeback after eight months away from the spotlight.   http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/11/24/idINIndia-60716820111124

“For Aristotle’s zoon politikon there are no persons beyond the walls of the city; outside the city there exist only beasts or gods.”
page 169, Urbanization and values, CRVP, 1991, By George F. McLean, John Kromkowski

If Karl zu Guttenberg becomes the King of the North (Daniel 11:36-40), he would also be the final Beast of Revelation. Interestingly, a comedic spoof of Karl zu Guttenberg was premiered on March 4, 2013 (see Baron Guttenberg does not show up for premier spoofing him). A line that was supposed to be in it was as follows:

“I carry myself with the thought, a zoon politikon to be,” says the film-Guttenberg, who is here from Franz Ferdinand and Thunder Mountain and in Berlin shaking the fence of the Chancellery.

„Ich trage mich mit dem Gedanken, ein Zoon Politikon zu werden“, verkündet der Film-Guttenberg, der hier Franz Ferdinand von und zu Donnersberg heißt und in Berlin am Zaun des Kanzleramts rüttelt.


Thus, various ones in Germany, at least, realize that the Baron called himself a type of political Beast. Many will be surprised if he does turn out to be the Beast warned against in biblical prophecy.

Karl Guttenberg is a politician. He is not our (or the Germans) saviour.

But he could be a factor in the rise of the European King of the North Beast power,, even if he is not that individual himself.

Some items of possibly related interest may include:

Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Is the former German Defense Minister (who is also the former German Minister for Economics and Technology) one to watch? What do Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest? A video of related interest would be: Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe’s Future.
Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666 American Express just announced a deal with Ripple related to using its blockchain technology. No longer confined to Bitcoin, blockchain technology is moving towards the mainstream. Former German Economic and later Defense Minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long been an adviser to Ripple and has plans for internationally-expanding the use of blockchain money. Jim Rickards, Doug Casey, and others have expressed concerns that blockchain money will give governments too much control over buying and selling. Could any of this be related to biblical prophecies in the Books of Daniel and Revelation? Could any of this help fulfill the prophecies related to buying and selling and 666 in Revelation 13? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more in this video. A related written article is also available: Amex launches blockchain-based business payments using Ripple: Prelude to the Beast and 666?
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