{"id":1138,"date":"2009-03-12T05:28:55","date_gmt":"2009-03-12T13:28:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=1138"},"modified":"2009-04-28T06:03:11","modified_gmt":"2009-04-28T14:03:11","slug":"cogaic-and-lcg-on-stem-cells","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/cogaic-and-lcg-on-stem-cells\/","title":{"rendered":"COGaIC and LCG on Stem Cells"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/Official_portrait_of_Barack_Obama.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"306\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>US\u00a0 President Barack Obama lifted various restrictions on stem cell research this week.\u00a0 This is not a change I can believe in.<\/p>\n<p>Both <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogaic.htm\">COGaIC<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/ylcg.htm\">LCG <\/a>had some comments about this.<\/p>\n<p>Here is all of what <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogaic.htm\">COGaIC<\/a> said this week:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"hdr-Drophead\">As we move ever closer toward realizing the medical  potential of stem cell research there will continue to be moral and ethical\u00a0conflicts in both  the scientific and political fraternity. Sometimes it is the smallest steps  along the path that require our closest attention.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here are some prior comments from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogaic.htm\">COGaIC&#8217;s<\/a> Dan Cloer:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As medical researchers seek a multitude of cures, the embryo has no say in its  own destruction. The \u201cinformed consent\u201d that has always been at the heart of  human-based research gives way to the perceived needs of the investigator\u2019s  prerogatives and the economic hopes of sponsors. It is an approach that easily  morphs into one where the ends justify the means\u2014the harsh rationalization that  \u201cyou\u2019ve got to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.\u201d The fruit of curative  medicine should not be cultivated through a neglectful disregard for the  materials it employs. Good fruit is not borne from poor practice. What we are  seeing today could be described as hybrid fruit from the proverbial tree of the  knowledge of good and evil.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here are comments from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/ylcg.htm\">LCG&#8217;s<\/a> Wally Smith:<\/p>\n<p><!--end nav--> <!--end header--><\/p>\n<div id=\"content\" class=\"pad\">\n<div id=\"post-761\" class=\"post hentry category-abortion category-bible category-christianity category-culture category-family category-health category-life category-news category-politics category-prophecy category-religion category-science category-scripture category-tomorrows-world tag-barack-obama tag-cloning tag-embryonic-stem-cell-research\">\n<div class=\"post-header\">\n<blockquote>\n<h2><a title=\"Permanent Link to Embryonic stem cell research decision: Absolutely\u00a0vomitous\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2009\/03\/11\/embryonic-stem-cell-research-decision-absolutely-vomitous\/\">Embryonic stem cell research decision: Absolutely\u00a0vomitous<\/a><\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;the March 9th change in American embryonic stem cell research policy is a horrible sign of an atrocious attitude toward human life.\u00a0 Really \u2014 absolutely vomitous.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>First, the idea that revoking the previous administration\u2019s ban on federal funding of such embryo-destructive research is somehow \u201cremoving ideology\u201d from science or \u201crestoring integrity\u201d to science is so ludicrous that it would be laughable if it weren\u2019t so horrific.\u00a0 It\u2019s almost as if one is saying, \u201cBy this taking this ideologically driven action, I hereby remove ideology from playing any role.\u201d\u00a0 The stand that destroying human life for the sake of scientific research \u2014 embryonic or otherwise \u2014 is acceptable is just as much an ideological stand as saying the opposite, and to think otherwise is nothing but hypocrisy and political theater (unless it is profound ignorance, which is always a possibility, I suppose).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>I wonder\u2026\u00a0 If it ever becomes necessary to place a ban on federal funding of involuntary experimentation on the comatose, elderly, or infirm, will that ban be derided as \u201cideological\u201d or \u201clacking scientific integrity\u201d?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Secondly, it occurs to me that when politicians consider such issues as when human life begins as being above their pay grade, it is all the more remarkable how willing they are to carelessly pass legislation concerning such matters as if they have all the answers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Of course, there <em>is<\/em> Someone for whom the issue is <em>not<\/em> above His pay grade.\u00a0 And this country\u2019s attitudes towards its most innocent and vulnerable have already garnered His attention.\u00a0 I doubt that this has escaped His notice, either.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Don\u2019t get me wrong.\u00a0 I believe that the other side of this national debate (or non-debate) is guilty of its own hypocrisy, and I cannot understand those who believe that creating embryos to be eternally frozen in pursuit of having children is somehow a pro-human life position.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>But I try to call it as I see it, and Monday\u2019s change in policy represented another black eye for this nation\u2019s respect for humanity, which God created in His own image.\u00a0 Will it help us along to a fulfillment of Revelation 18:13 (trading in the \u201cbodies and souls of men\u201d) in the economy of the Beast power \u2014 which is <a title=\"The Beast of Revelation: Myth, Metaphor, or Soon-Coming Reality?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tomorrowsworld.org\/cgi-bin\/tw\/booklets\/tw-bk.cgi?category=Intro&amp;item=1104414543\" target=\"_blank\"><em>not<\/em> the U.S.<\/a>, by the way \u2013\u00a0 that is as yet unfathomable?\u00a0 Interesting idea, but I certainly don\u2019t claim to know.\u00a0 But I guarantee you, the consequences will not be good.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019d love to write more about this, but the time escapes me (and, frankly, if I <em>did<\/em> have more time I would be more tempted to create a cleaner essay for use as a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomorrowsworld.org\/cgi-bin\/tw\/commentary\/tw-comm.cgi?action=dispcommentary\" target=\"_blank\">Tomorrow\u2019s World commentary<\/a>).\u00a0 But for now, let me content myself with refering you to some earlier posts on the subject (some of which, after a bit of cleaning up, <em>did<\/em> become TW commentaries):<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2006\/10\/31\/amendment-2-in-missouri-%E2%80%93-the-issues-both-sides-ignore\/\" target=\"_blank\">Amendment 2 in Missouri &#8211; The Issues BOTH Sides Ignore<\/a><br \/>\n(TW commentary version: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomorrowsworld.org\/cgi-bin\/tw\/commentary\/tw-comm.cgi?category=Commentary1&amp;item=1162571107\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cStem Cell Research &#8211; what BOTH sides miss\u201d<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2007\/01\/29\/a-whiff-of-truth-and-a-sniff-of-lie-in-a-national-geographic-caption\/\" target=\"_blank\">A Whiff of Truth and a Sniff of Lie in a National Geographic Caption<\/a><br \/>\n(TW commentary version: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomorrowsworld.org\/cgi-bin\/tw\/commentary\/tw-comm.cgi?category=Commentary1&amp;item=1174633305\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cA subtle upgrade for \u2018human embryos\u2019\u201d<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2007\/11\/20\/ap-article-puts-the-lie-to-not-cloning-propaganda\/\" target=\"_blank\">AP article puts the lie to \u201cnot cloning\u201d propaganda<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2007\/06\/07\/good-news-bad-news-on-stem-cell-research\/\" target=\"_blank\">Good News &amp; Bad News on Stem Cell Research<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2007\/09\/06\/british-regulators-approve-of-cowboys\/\" target=\"_blank\">British regulators approve of Cowboys<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/wallacegsmith.wordpress.com\/2007\/10\/16\/a-tip-of-the-hat-to-a-guy-on-the-wrong-side\/\" target=\"_blank\">A Tip of the Hat to a Guy on the Wrong Side<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogaic.htm\">COGaIC<\/a> is correct that there are moral issues, but it seemed hesitant to discuss much about what is wrong about the stem cell research.\u00a0 I agree with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/ylcg.htm\">LCG&#8217;s<\/a> Wallace Smith&#8217;s stronger stance against it.<\/p>\n<p>As I have written here for years, there are other (cheaper and in my opinion simpler) ways to accomplish much of the stem cell goals without human stem cells at all (animal parts work).\u00a0 Furthermore, umbilical cord stem cells have always been available and do not have the moral problems.<\/p>\n<p>It has long been my belief that the real reason that the stem cell issue has been floated around is so that the <a href=\"\/abortion.htm\">abortion<\/a> industry wants to use it to try to pretend that <a href=\"\/abortion.htm\">abortion<\/a> is morally acceptable.\u00a0 It is not, nor is the type of stem cell research that President Obama approved morally acceptable.<\/p>\n<p>Without massive national repentance the USA is doomed relatively soon.\u00a0 The stem cell issue is just one more area of the national sins of the USA.<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/abortion.htm\">Abortion, the Bible, and a Woman&#8217;s Right to Choose<\/a> Do you know what the Bible teaches on this? Has the Roman Catholic Church allowed abortions? What about the Living Church of God?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/britishisrael.htm\">Anglo &#8211; America in Prophecy &amp; the  Lost Tribes of Israel<\/a> Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?<br \/>\n<a title=\"Permanent Link to Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/prophecy\/barack-obama-and-the-destruction-of-the-united-states\/\">Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United   States<\/a> Some claim that Barack Obama is the prophesied &#8220;son of Kenya&#8221;, based up an early 20th century writing.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/news\/prophecy\/obama-in-islamic-prophecy\/\">Barack Obama in Islamic Prophecy?<\/a> There is actually a 17th century Shiite prophecy that some believe that Barack Obama will fulfill that will lead to a rising up of Islam.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/barack-obama-prophecy-antichrist.htm\">Prophecy Obama: Prophecies of Barack Obama?<\/a> Are there biblical and non-biblical prophecies about Barack Obama. Did Nostradamus predict Barack Obama dealing with the Antichrist? 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