{"id":13346,"date":"2012-09-23T06:30:39","date_gmt":"2012-09-23T14:30:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=13346"},"modified":"2012-09-23T05:58:28","modified_gmt":"2012-09-23T13:58:28","slug":"linus-was-not-pope-linus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/church-history\/linus-was-not-pope-linus\/","title":{"rendered":"Linus was not Pope Linus"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/hoec.gif\" alt=\"History of Early Christianity\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">September 23rd is the day recognized by the Catholics of Rome to honor Linus of Rome.\u00a0 Typically he is shown second on the list of bishops that purport to show the Roman Catholic pontiffs.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">There is an individual named Linus in the Bible.\u00a0 He is mentioned one time.\u00a0 Here is the only passage that mentions him:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Greet Prisca and Aquila, and the household of Onesiphorus. Erastus stayed in Corinth, but Trophimus I have left in Miletus sick. Do your utmost to come before winter. Eubulus greets you, as well as Pudens, Linus, Claudia, and all the brethren. The Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Grace be with you. Amen (2 Timothy 4:19-22).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">The above was probably written, in approximately 67 A.D. &#8211; 68 A.D., by the Apostle Paul while in prison in Rome to the evangelist Timothy, who was in Ephesus. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">This shows that Paul knew someone named Linus. Linus, therefore knew Paul, and was in Rome when Paul wrote this letter. It can probably be reasonably implied that Linus probably knew Timothy, and perhaps others in Ephesus. And based on Paul&#8217;s writings, it can be concluded that Paul, at that time, considered that particular Linus to be a Christian. It is probably logical to conclude that Linus met with Paul in prison on multiple occasions and probably, like the others, assisted him to some degree. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">What it does not show is that Linus was to be the leader of those in Rome or ordained by Peter. Others are listed before him, hence, at least at the time Paul wrote this letter, there is no preeminence for Linus in Rome (and it should be noted that one of the proofs that Rome often cites to prove that Peter had preeminence is that Peter was quite often listed first in various New Testament passages involving multiple people). Linus simply was one of many who knew and probably assisted the Apostle Paul. The lack of emphasis\/preeminence in Paul&#8217;s writings would seem to suggest that Linus could not have been the one to become the &#8220;bishop of Rome&#8221; and the successor of Peter and Paul in 67 A.D. Especially since it is believed that the Apostle Paul probably did not die until 68 A.D. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Whether or not this is the same individual named Linus that many Roman Catholics consider to be the first pope (the first &#8220;bishop of Rome&#8221;) to succeed Peter cannot be determined from the passages in 2 Timothy. This is confirmed by Catholic scholars, such as J.P. Kirsch, who wrote:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">We cannot be positive whether this identification of the pope as being the Linus mentioned in II Timothy 4:21, goes back to an ancient and reliable source, or originated later on account of the similarity of the name (Kirsch J.P. Transcribed by Gerard Haffner. Pope St. Linus. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume IX. Copyright \u00a9 1910 by Robert Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2003 by K. Knight. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1910. Remy Lafort, Censor. Imprimatur. +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York). <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But it seems that even if the Roman Catholics are referring to the same person, that he was not the one who was going to immediately become THE bishop of Rome&#8211;if he was it would be logical if Paul would have given Linus some special mention. Instead, he is simply grouped in with several others in Rome at that time (nor is Linus even mentioned first). <\/span><\/p>\n<p>There are several demonstrably incorrect claims made about him by some in the Church of Rome.\u00a0 For example, here is something from a book I purchased in Vatican City:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><strong>2. LINUS, ST. (67-76)<\/strong>&#8230;He was the first to take up the inheritance of St. Peter&#8230;He made disposition for women to be admitted to the holy places and attend functions with their heads covered&#8230;He was buried beside St. Peter in the first Vatican burial spot. It is certain that he did exist while some have thrown doubt on his election to the pontificate.\u00a0 (<span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Lopes A. The Popes: The lives of the pontiffs through 2000 years of history. Futura Edizoni as sponsored by the Pontifical Administration, Roma, 1997, p. 1<\/span>)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The main historical fact is that Linus&#8217; name showed up on a list.\u00a0 Not that he was Peter&#8217;s successor.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Here is some of what the Catholic scholar J.P. Kirsch wrote in <em>The Catholic Encyclopedia<\/em> about Linus:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The &#8220;Liber Pontificalis&#8221; asserts that Linus&#8217;s home was in Tuscany, and that his father&#8217;s name was Herculanus; but we cannot discover the origin of this assertion. According to the same work on the popes, Linus is supposed to have issued a decree &#8220;in conformity with the ordinance of St. Peter&#8221;, that women should have their heads covered in church. Without doubt this decree is apocryphal, and copied by the author of the &#8220;Liber Pontificalis&#8221; from the first Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians (11:5) and arbitrarily attributed to the first successor of the Apostle in Rome. The statement made in the same source, that Linus suffered martyrdom, cannot be proved and is improbable.<\/span> (Kirsch J.P. Transcribed by Gerard Haffner. Pope St. Linus. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XI. Copyright \u00a9 1910 by Robert Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2003 by K. Knight. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1910. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Much about Linus is more than improbable.<\/p>\n<p>N<span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">etherland&#8217;s Priest Roderick Vonh\u00f6gen is the Chief Executive Officer of a pro-Catholic media group (SQPN) which correctly teaches, \u201c<strong>Pope Saint Linus<\/strong>&#8230;ancient documents about his papacy have proven to be inaccurate or apocryphal\u201d (Pope Saint Linus. saints.sqpn.com\/saintl23.htm, viewed 09\/18\/12).\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Yet, Linus is claimed to have been the first successor of Peter and head of all Christendom by the Church of Rome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Here is what John O&#8217;Malley, a Jesuit Priest and Catholic historian, published:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The earliest lists of popes begin, not with Peter, but with a man named Linus. The reason Peter&#8217;s name was not listed was because he was an apostle, which was a super-category, much superior to pope or bishop&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The Christian community at Rome well into the second century operated as a collection of separate communites without any central structure&#8230;Rome was a constellation of house churches, independent of one another, each of which was loosely governed by an elder. The communities thus basically followed the pattern of the Jewish synagogues out of which they developed.<\/span> (O&#8217;Malley JW. A History of the Popes. Sheed &amp; Ward, 2009, p. 11)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">It should be pointed out that the Apostle John outlived Linus and some of the others considered to have been early \u201cpopes.\u201d Thus, the above admission is consistent with the Church of God view that the leadership of the Christian church in the late first century was clearly in Asia Minor, and not Rome, as that is where the Apostle John was based.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Anyway, there likely was a genuine Church of God Christian leader in Rome named Linus who may have been an elder.\u00a0 Since there is no contemporary biblical nor other historical evidence that Rome had a bishop over it then, etc. Linus was certainly not the &#8220;Bishop of Rome&#8221; who somehow supposedly succeeded the <a href=\"\/peter.htm\">Apostle Peter<\/a>.\u00a0 Catholics and others might be surprised to learn that the first known &#8220;Bishop of Rome&#8221; did not take that title until the mid-second century and that title &#8220;Pope&#8221; or Pontificus Maximus was not taken by the bishops of Rome until the late fourth century.<\/p>\n<p><em>Some items of possibly related interest may including the following:<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Pope&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/linus.htm\">Linus<\/a> (67-76)&#8230;He is claimed to be the first to take up the inheritance from Peter, but he is omitted from Tertullian&#8217;s list. 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