{"id":4203,"date":"2010-09-09T07:15:24","date_gmt":"2010-09-09T15:15:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=4203"},"modified":"2010-09-09T07:14:56","modified_gmt":"2010-09-09T15:14:56","slug":"white-horse-false-ecumenical-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/doctrine\/white-horse-false-ecumenical-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"Ecumenism Advancing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><small><!-- by admin --><\/small><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/four-horseman-historical.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"115\" \/><br \/>\nWhite Horseman Related to \u201cAntichrist\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Book of Revelation tells of a time that the first seal will be opened by Jesus.\u00a0 Notice what happens:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, &#8220;Come and see.&#8221; 2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. (Revelation 6:1-2)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In 1976, the old WCG taught:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the book of Revelation we find a disturbing vision of  four fearsome horsemen (Rev. 6:1-8).\u00a0 Each of these horsemen is a symbol  of the four major punishments to be inflicted upon a rebellious mankind  \u2014 probably in the not-too-distant future! (Ritter G. The First Horse,  False Religion.\u00a0 WCG booklet, 1976).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">LCG\u2019s<\/a> Dr. Meredith taught:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">Rome\u2019s  constant promotion of  the ecumenical movement\u2014encouraging her wayward  daughters to \u201ccome  home\u201d\u2014 will also resonate with increasing urgency  throughout Europe and  even here in North America. It is time for all  Bible-believing  Christians to WAKE UP! A MASSIVE religious\/political  union is now in the  making in Europe.(Meredith RC. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\"><strong>Is the \u2014Beast\u2014 Awakening?, Tomorrow\u2019s World, Sep-Oct 2000)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;\">The relentless  pressure of the ecumenical movement will also intensify. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;\">The  Great  Mother Church will be calling with increasing fervor for her  daughters  to come \u201chome.\u201d\u00a0 Within the next several years, the \u201csecond\u201d   Beast of Revelation 13 will appear on the scene. We read of this man in   Revelation 13:11\u201314: \u201cThen I saw another beast coming up out of the   earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he   exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and   causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast,   whose deadly wound was healed. He performs <strong>great signs<\/strong>, so that he even makes <strong>fire<\/strong> come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. And he deceives   those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do   in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to  make  an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.\u201d\u00a0  This coming powerful religious leader will look like a \u201clamb.\u201d In  Revelation 14 we see that <strong>Christ<\/strong> is described as the  \u201cLamb.\u201d So this coming religious leader will appear  to be like Christ!  But, John writes, he \u201cspoke like a dragon.\u201d (Meredith RC. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\"><strong>Who or What Is\u2014The Antichrist? LCG booklet, March 2008)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\"><strong>\u2026<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">even many evangelical Christians\u2014<em>and their ministers<\/em>\u2014will    eventually be caught up in the euphoria of this powerful Babylonish    system! For it will be part of the \u201cecumenical movement.\u201d It will seem    like \u201cthe thing to do.\u201d(Meredith RC.\u00a0 The Two Babylons.\u00a0 Tomorrow\u2019s   World, May-June 2004)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>LCG&#8217;s Richard Ames taught:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">Some commentaries wrongly  interpret the first seal to mean that Christianity will evangelize the  world and conquer it spiritually. But when we examine Christ\u2019s words in  Matthew, we come to a very different conclusion. Jesus warns his  followers: &#8220;Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My  name, saying \u2018I am the Christ,\u2019 and will deceive many&#8221; (Matthew 24:4).  Compare this to Revelation 6 and we can see that the first horse and its  rider represent FALSE Christs and FALSE religion.\u00a0 (Ames R.\u00a0 Mystery of Revelation.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\"> Tomorrow\u2019s World, Jul-Sep 1999<\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">).<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>LCG\u2019s Dr. Winnail taught:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">The  Roman Church is leading an  \u201cecumenical\u201d drive to bring all  professing-Christian churches together  under one umbrella, even though  it has made clear that it considers  itself the one true Church (see  Isaiah 47:1\u20138). The Roman Church is  promoting a united Europe, in which  it can regain the prominent role it  played in the \u201cHoly Roman  Empire.\u201d\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">The history of  medieval Europe  sheds light on how a deceptive and militant false form  of Christianity  will operate when the first horseman of the Apocalypse  begins his ride.  We are watching these prophecies come alive today!  (Winnail D. The Mysterious First Horseman.\u00a0 Tomorrow\u2019s World, Nov-Dec  2004)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">Two of the  most significant  events in the last 2,000 years of religious history  were the Great  Schism and the Reformation. In 1054ad, church leaders in  Rome and  Constantinople mutually excommunicated each other over  doctrinal  differences, creating the Great Schism that has separated the  western  Roman Catholic Church from the Eastern Orthodox Church for  almost a  thousand years. The 15th century saw the birth of the  Protestant  Reformation\u2026<\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\"> Many ecumenically minded church leaders believe that the Holy Spirit is  leading them toward greater unity. (Winnail D.\u00a0 A Return to Rome?\u00a0  Tomorrow\u2019s World, Nov-Dec 2008).<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There have been many interesting ecumenical developments since the Feast of Trumpets in 2009.<\/p>\n<p>In September 2009, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/orthodox.htm\">Eastern Orthodox<\/a> held\u00a0a\u00a0significant\u00a0pan-Orthodox conference; working towards unity was  one of  the\u00a0objectives\u00a0(World Council of Churches Inter-Orthodox  Preparatory  Consultation Towards the International Ecumenical Peace  Convocation (IEPC)  Leros, Greece. 15-22 September 2009).\u00a0\u00a0 By itself,  the meeting does not seem  like too much, but it was partially in  response to the World Council of Churches  and later Orthodox  developments suggest that it might have been  important.<\/p>\n<p>On October 15, 2009, the Vatican\u2019s then top ecumenical  official reported:<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\"><p>The official dialogue between the Catholic  Church and the  mainline Protestant Churches \u2014 Anglican, Lutheran,  Reformed and Methodist \u2014 is  entering a new phase, says the president of  the Pontifical Council for Promoting  Christian Unity.\u00a0 Cardinal Walter  Kasper pointed this out Thursday during a  press conference at the  Vatican\u2026(Cardinal Kasper on 40 Years of Dialogue Says   Catholic-Protestant Relations Entering New Phase.<strong> <\/strong>Zenit,  October 16, 2009)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice this was called \u201ca new phase\u201d in the official dialogue,   suggesting that major changes were occurring. \u00a0 On the next day, the  Vatican and the Orthodox began a new  round of ecumenical negotiations.<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\"><p>The eleventh meeting of the Joint International  Commission for  Theological Dialogue between the Orthodox Church and  the Roman Catholic  Church took place in Paphos, Cyprus, a city with a  rich history, having  received three Apostles, Paul, Barnabas and Mark.  The meeting took place  from 16-23 October 2009\u2026The Orthodox meeting  discussed among other things the negative reactions  to the Dialogue by  certain Orthodox circles, and unanimously considered  them as totally  unfounded and unacceptable, providing false and  misleading information.  (Comminique. JOINT INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION FOR THEOLOGICAL DIALOGUE  BETWEEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH\u00a0 AND THE ORTHODOX CHURCH. 11TH PLENARY  SESSION.Paphos, Cyprus, 16-23 October 2009.\u00a0 Paphos, Cyprus, 22 October  2009.\u00a0  http:\/\/www.ec-patr.org\/docdisplay.php?lang=en&amp;id=1124&amp;tla=en).<\/p>\n<p>The International Mixed Commission for Theological Dialogue  Between  the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church has progressed in its   reflection on the role of the bishop of Rome. The meeting was attended  by 20  Catholic members; all Orthodox Churches were represented, with  the exception of  the Patriarchate of Bulgaria. The commission worked  under the guidance of two  co-presidents: the Catholic representative  was Cardinal Walter Kasper, president  of the Pontifical Council for  Promoting Christian Unity; and the Orthodox  representative was  Metropolitan Ioannis Zizioulas of Pergamum.  (Orthodox-Catholic  Commission Studies Primacy of Peter Concludes 11th Plenary  Session in  Paphos.<strong> <\/strong>Zenit, October 23,  2009)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As reported here previously, I personally was told  when I was in  Istanbul in May of 2008 at the office of the Ecumenical Patriarch  of  Constantinople,\u00a0that the Vatican stated that it would compromise  doctrine  to\u00a0attain unity with the Orthodox.\u00a0\u00a0The Vatican basically  wants the Orthodox to  bend on the primacy of Peter\/Rome issue, as it is  willing change on most of the  rest of the doctrinal differences.\u00a0 So, it is interestingly that both  groups had a major meeting on the &#8220;primacy of Peter&#8221; subject.<\/p>\n<p>On October 20, 2009, the Vatican announced that it would amend its constitution  to allow for the change to allow the Anglicans to be in communion with  Rome&#8211;without the Anglicans really having to do much of anything.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Obviously,  the decision was made prior to this formal announcement.\u00a0\u00a0The timing of this  seems to have been meant to send a signal to the Eastern Orthodox that if they  want something like was offered to the Anglicans, Rome would also offer them unity while allowing their priests to be  married, and without changes to their liturgy.<\/p>\n<p>This decision to amend the Vatican&#8217;s constitution to allow for the Anglicans would have involved\u00a0many Catholic  leaders,  and one of them might become the False Prophet (the final  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/antichrist.htm\">Antichrist<\/a>).\u00a0 This Vatican announcement allowed married Anglican   priests to remain married and still be part of the clergy.\u00a0 This is  something  that the Eastern Orthodox would also likely insist upon to end its &#8220;schism&#8221; with Rome.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, even the Russian Orthodox Patriarch  Kirill started to  sound \u201cecumenical\u201d in later 2009.\u00a0 Yet, then Metropolitan Kirill\u00a0was   so opposed to unity with the Vatican, that a few days prior to his  election to  his current post in January 2009, he publicly stated \u201cthere  is no room for  compromise\u201d with the Vatican.\u00a0 However,  by  mid-November 2009, he apparently changed his mind (Cooper R.\u00a0 Russian  Orthodox and Catholic church may end  950-year rift.\u00a0 Telegraph,  November 13,  2009).<\/p>\n<p>In February 2010,\u00a0 leaders of the Ecumenical  Lutherans had a:<\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\"><p>\u201c2010 Ecumenical Journey,\u201d and\u2026visited  Anglican,  Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic world leaders\u2026In its  22-year history, the  ELCA has established full communion relationships  with the Episcopal Church, the  Moravian Church, the Presbyterian Church  (U.S.A.), the Reformed Church in  America, the United Church of Christ,  and most recently the United Methodist  Church.\u00a0 (ELCA Delegation,  Roman Catholic Ecumenists, Discuss Future Vision.\u00a0  ECLA News Service,  February 14, 2010)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Lutheran leaders met with the Vatican and others in  that \u201cecumenical journey\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople (who  has a  certain primacy among the \u201csees\u201d of the Eastern Orthodox) even came out   in an encyclical and publicly warned against those who would oppose  Vatican-Orthodox unity in  late February 2010 (Patriarch of  Constantinople\u2019s new encyclical defends  Catholic-Orthodox dialogue.\u00a0  Catholic News Agency, February 20,  2010).<\/p>\n<p>In May 2010, a meeting between the leaders of the somewhat estranged  Eastern and Russian Orthodox (Kishkovsky S.\u00a0 Orthodox leaders meet to  heal a rift.\u00a0 New York Times, May 24, 1010.).\u00a0 The top two leaders of  this group, however, have long had a personal working relationship,  prior to being elevated to their current positions (Lipich O.\u00a0 The visit  of Patriarch Bartholomew to Russia is intended to strengthen  intra-Orthodox ties.\u00a0 Voice of Russia, May 22, 2010).\u00a0 Ecumenism is  blooming amongst the Orthodox (though there will likely be some  problems).<\/p>\n<p>Behind the scenes in early February 2010, a Catholic Bishop from the  German-speaking  portion of Switzerland, by the name of Kurt Koch, privately  accepted  Pope Benedict XVI\u2019s offer to be president of the Pontifical Council for   Promoting Christian Unity.\u00a0 This was not  publicly announced until July  1, 2010.<\/p>\n<p>Zenit (a  pro-Vatican news agency) reported two different, but  interesting, but perhaps related, ecumenical  items a little while ago:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Benedict XVI says that dialogue between Catholics and   Orthodox is at a \u201ccrucial point\u201d and invited heartfelt prayer to the  Holy Spirit  for progress to continue.\u00a0 The Pope said  this today when  he addressed members of a delegation from Orthodox Patriarch   Bartholomew I\u2026 Benedict XVI highlighted the work of the  Orthodox-Catholic mixed  commission, saying it \u201cis at a crucial point,  having begun last October in  Paphos\u2026\u201d (Pope Praises Orthodox Commitment  to Unity.\u00a0 Zenit, June 28, 2010).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Bishop Kurt Koch of Basel, Switzerland,  has been  appointed to succeed Cardinal Walter Kasper as the president of the   Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.<\/p>\n<p>The announcement of  Archbishop Koch\u2019s appointment was made today,  coming simultaneously with  elevation to the dignity of archbishop\u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>The 60-year-old  archbishop has already served on the  pontifical council since 2002, as well as  being a member of the  International Mixed Commission for Theological Dialogue  Between the  Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. He also has formed part of  the  International Catholic-Lutheran Commission for Unity.\u00a0 (Swiss Bishop  Tapped for Unity Office.\u00a0 Zenit, July 1, 2010.)<\/p>\n<p>So, negotiations between the Vatican and the Eastern  Orthodox were  at a \u201ccrucial stage\u201d a few weeks ago, and now a new Vatican leader  for  ecumenical matters has been installed.<\/p>\n<p>Orthodox Metropolitan Hilarion, head of the department  for external  Church relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, officially endorsed   Archbishop Koch\u2019s appointment in July 2010.\u00a0  Mark S. Hanson (presiding  bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in  America), Dr. Olav Fykse  Tveit  (general secretary of the World Council of Churches), and others  also did so as  well in July.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>About his appointment, Catholic Archbishop Kurt Koch  himself stated:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Holy Father told me in February, in a personal audience, his desire  that I would begin to lead this council. It is a great joy for me  because ecumenism has always been in my heart since in my country,  Switzerland, Protestants are very close to us and I have also had a  particular interest in the Orthodox Churches&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The Holy Father has done much. In the first homily after   his election he said openly that ecumenism is a challenge that comes  from Jesus  Christ and that, at this time dialogue finds good  foundations in the documents  of the Second Vatican Council.<\/p>\n<p>In pastoral journeys he has always dedicated a part to  ecumenism.  Let us consider for example the trip to England, which will take  place  in September. It won\u2019t be easy because the Anglicans\u2019 situation isn\u2019t   easy. It\u2019s said that Benedict XVI wishes especially to foster ecumenical   dialogue with the Orthodox. For me it is impressive.<\/p>\n<p>The Holy Father has asked me to do this work and an  element that he  has stressed much is that he wants a bishop who knows the  churches of  the Reformation not only in books but by personal experience. This   tells us how close the Holy Father is to the churches of the  Reformation.\u00a0 (Why a Swiss Bishop for the Unity  Council.\u00a0 Zenit, July  13,  2010.\u00a0 http:\/\/www.zenit.org\/article-29881?l=english)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice that Kurt Koch has\u00a0his new\u00a0position to get the  Protestants  (\u201dthe churches of the Reformation\u201d) and the Eastern Orthodox to be  part  of an ecumenical deal (though he differs from Pontiff Benedict by  calling  the Protestant groups\u00a0\u201dchurches\u201d).\u00a0 This is ecumenical plan is  consistent with  biblical, Catholic, and Eastern Orthodox prophecies.\u00a0\u00a0  And  while he will likely have issues this month with many of the Anglicans in the UK,  he and the  pontiff plan to move ahead with their ecumenical agenda.<\/p>\n<p>Almost amazingly the Catholics and Orthodox are being portrayed as &#8220;Europe&#8217;s Brothers&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>High-ranking representatives of the Catholic and Russian Orthodox  Churches embraced on Monday in a moment reflecting a will for unity  between the two Churches.<\/p>\n<p>A photo of the embrace between Cardinal Peter Erdo and Metropolitan Filaret was printed with the title &#8220;Europe&#8217;s Brothers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;The Catholic and Russian Orthodox Churches are already united in their common stance on many issues affecting Europe&#8230;\u00a0 (Catholic, Russian Orthodox Churches Embrace: Cardinal and Metropolitan Show Will for Unity at Rimini Meeting.\u00a0 Zenit, August 24, 2010)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thus, the idea of unity is becoming more and more public.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps I should state that the Eastern Orthodox have  long believed  that they will get the Vatican to change.\u00a0 Notice what my &#8220;2012&#8221; book reports:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Orthodox\u00a0have long taught that the Church of  Rome\u00a0(known sometimes as Latins) will change doctrines to those of the  Orthodox.\u00a0 A document known as the <em>Anonymou<\/em><em> Prophecy<\/em> of 1053 refers to this as the \u201cDeferring of the Latins to the error-free faith of the Orthodox.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Unity has long been both a Vatican and  Eastern Orthodox  goal.\u00a0\u00a0However until recently, it seemed more of a longing than   something anyone would try to resolve.\u00a0 But now, that is changing.<\/p>\n<p>The old WCG (Ritter G. The First Horse, False Religion.\u00a0 WCG booklet,  1976) and the current LCG recognize that the four riders in Revelation 6  are in the same order as the first four events Jesus listed as part of  the \u201cbeginning of sorrows\u201d in Matthew 24.\u00a0 Partially because of this, we  understand that the rider of the first horse represents a deceiving  religion that claims  that Jesus is the Christ (e.g. Matthew 24:5;  Revelation 6:3).\u00a0 Since the Bible, in several places, suggests a  world-encompassing religion (Isaiah 47:6-9; Revelation 13:3-4; 13:12-17;  17:17-18; cf. Daniel 11:37-39), some type of ecumenical meetings likely  need to take place before \u201cecumenical unity\u201d is attained.<\/p>\n<p>From August 27-30 2010, a conference was held by the Pope with Kurt Koch the primary speaker:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>L&#8217;Osservatore Romano reported that the main speaker for this year&#8217;s  study weekend will be Archbishop Kurt Koch, the new president of the  Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity The Swiss prelate will give two lectures, one on &#8220;Vatican II Between  Tradition and Innovation&#8221; and another on &#8220;Sacrosanctum concilium&#8221; and  the reform of the liturgy&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The topic chosen  is central to Benedict XVI&#8217;s pontificate. He has often indicated that  the council was not a rupture with tradition, but a deepening of the  Church&#8217;s 2,000-year history.<\/p>\n<p>In his first address as Pope to the  Roman Curia, he pointed to two opposing interpretations of the council,  which Archbishop Koch will address in his first lecture.<\/p>\n<p>The Holy Father said&#8230;&#8221;On the other, there is the &#8216;hermeneutic of reform,&#8217; of renewal in the  continuity of the one subject-Church which the Lord has given to us. She  is a subject which increases in time and develops, yet always remaining  the same, the one subject of the journeying People of God.&#8221;\u00a0 (Ratzinger Students to Consider Vatican II.\u00a0 Zenit, 26 August 2010.\u00a0 http:\/\/www.zenit.org\/article-30162?l=english).<\/p>\n<p>Archbishop Koch&#8217;s intervention examined &#8220;The Second Vatican Council between tradition and innovation&#8221; and &#8220;<em>Sacrosanctum concilium<\/em> and the post-Conciliar reform of the liturgy.&#8221;\u00a0 (Pope and Past Pupils Interpret Vatican II.\u00a0 Vatican Radio.\u00a0 31 August 2010.\u00a0 <span style=\"color: #153f6b; font: bold 18px Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;\"> <\/span>http:\/\/www.oecumene.radiovaticana.org\/en1\/Articolo.asp?c=419039)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Based upon what Zenit reported from the Pontiff, it appears that the Vatican is coming up with ways to rationalize how to change yet claim to be &#8220;always remaining  the same&#8221;.\u00a0 This somewhat contradictory view is likely to be held by whoever becomes the final Antichrist (one who I believe will be an &#8220;antipope&#8221; in the sense that he will profess, but not truly believe, the Catholic religion).<\/p>\n<p>Here is a report of a little of what Kurt Koch said (more details have been difficult to come by) in that conference:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Archbishop Koch told L\u2019Osservatore Romano (LOR) on  Wednesday that the  meeting of the Pope\u2019s former theology students was  \u201ca concrete, lively  and positive experience.\u201d He said that the  participants\u2019 conclusion  after examining the reform of the Second  Vatican Council over the  weekend was that \u201c(l)oyalty to tradition,  openness to the future: is the  most correct interpretation of Vatican  II, which remains the magna  carta of the Church also in the third  millennium.\u201d\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Although he shared few details of his audience with Benedict XVI on   Monday morning, the archbishop did tell LOR that he and the Pope spoke   about his \u201cnew ecumenical challenge because the Pontifical Council for   Promoting Christian Unity is not independent (from the Pontiff) but it   has a mandate from the Pope to see how dialogue may develop in the   future.\u201d\u00a0 (Archbishop Koch pledges unity with Pope as he assumes new  Vatican post. <span>Vatican City, Sep 1, 2010.<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/archbishop-koch-pledges-unity-with-pope-as-he-assumes-new-vatican-post\/\">http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/archbishop-koch-pledges-unity-with-pope-as-he-assumes-new-vatican-post\/)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The use of \u201cVatican II\u201d (a major meeting of the Church of Rome which  opened under Pope John XXIII on 11 October 1962 and closed under Pope  Paul VI on 8 December 1965) to justify many things has raised questions  for decades amongst those who consider themselves affiliated with the  Church of Rome.\u00a0 Many <a href=\"\/catholic.htm\">Catholics<\/a> have questioned how the Vatican can claim to be the same while making changes.<\/p>\n<p>Now, it appears that Vatican II will be part of the cover being used to promote unity with other faiths.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ecumenical Council?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On February 21, 2010, after blasting critics of Roman Catholic-Eastern Orthodox unity as \u201cfanatical\u201d, Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople stated that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cunion between the Roman Catholic and Orthodox  Churches\u2026is not decided by theological commissions but by Church Synods\u201d  (Bartholomew I. Patriarchal and Synodal Encyclical on the Sunday of  Orthodoxy. Prot. No. 213, February 21, 2010.  http:\/\/www.ec-patr.org\/docdisplay.php?lang=en&amp;id=1168&amp;tla=en).\u00a0  This  is actually a hint that Bartholomew I expects an ecumenical synod,  or what some in the  Orthodox world have called the 8th synod or  ecumenical council (the Orthodox accept seven councils as authoritative  and ecumenical).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But he neglected to pointed out that theological commissions seem to  be the vehicle that leads to synods.\u00a0 And that he likely expects such a synod.\u00a0  Interestingly, there is an old Orthodox prophecy and a Roman Catholic one, that  Patriarch Bartholomew I should be aware of, which tells of a coming  ecumenical synod\/council:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Saint Nelios the Myrrh-Gusher<\/em> (died 1592):  During that time<strong> the Eighth and last Ecumenical Synod will take place,  which will satisfy the contentions of the heretics<\/strong>\u2026(Tzima Otto, Great  Monarch and WWIII, Verenikia Press, Rock Hill (SC), 2000, p. 111)<\/p>\n<p><em>Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser<\/em> (Born in the 17th century, in Germany):<strong> There  will be an ecumenical council<\/strong> which will be the greatest of all councils. \u00a0By the grace of God, by   the power of the Great  Monarch, and by the authority of the Holy   Pontiff, and by the union of the most  devout princes, atheism and every   heresy will be banished from the earth. \u00a0The Council will\u2026be believed  and <strong>accepted by everyone<\/strong> (Dupont, Yves. Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1973, p. 40).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This \u201csynod\u201d should not be looked forward to, but feared.\u00a0 By  satisfying \u201cheretics\u201d, clearly this council compromises and changes the  religion, which will be called \u201cCatholic\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>A Catholic prophecy shows that after its church is changed (<em>reformed<\/em> below), the Orthodox\u00a0will come back:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Roger Bacon<\/em> (died 1294): There shall arise  a\u2026priest to reform the Church.\u00a0 The Greeks will return (to the  Church)\u2026there will be one fold, one shepherd. (Culleton, The Prophets  and Our Times, p. 149)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Also notice the following warning from a Catholic nun:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span><em>Anna-Katarina  Emmerick<\/em> (October 1,   1820): The Church is in great danger\u2026The Protestant doctrine and that of  the  schismatic Greeks are to spread everywhere.\u00a0  I now see that in  this place (Rome) the (Catholic) Church is being so cleverly   undermined, that there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have  not been  deceived.\u00a0 They all work for the  destruction, even the  clergy.\u00a0 A great  destruction is now at hand&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>(April 22, 1823): I saw that many pastors  allowed themselves to be  taken up with ideas that were dangerous to the Church.\u00a0 They were  building a great, strange, and extravagant  Church.\u00a0 Everyone was  admitted in it in  order to be united and to have equal rights:  Evangelicals, Catholics, sects of  every description.\u00a0 Such was to be  the new  Church (Dupont, pp. 66, 71).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Various  events around the globe suggest that people  of many faiths are getting to the  point where they are likely to accept  some type of ecumenical religion.<\/p>\n<p>Notice  carefully the following Catholic prophecy:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Frederick William Faber<\/em> (died  1863):&#8230;<strong>Antichrist<\/strong>&#8230;Many believe in a demonical incarnation\u2014this  will not be so\u2014but he will be utterly possessed&#8230;His <strong>doctrine as apparent contradiction of no religion, yet a new religion<\/strong>&#8230;He   has an attending pontiff, so separating regal and prophetic office  (Edward. Prophecy for Today. Imprimatur + A.J. Willinger, Bishop of  Monterey-Fresno; Reprint: Tan Books and Publishers, Rockford (IL), 1984,  p. 87).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That  prophecy, which is in a book with an  official imprimatur from a Catholic bishop  (as well as others),  suggests that there soon may be a change to the \u201cCatholic\u201d religion that  will make  it the religion of the final Antichrist.<\/p>\n<p>This  change will not seem to be a contradiction, but it will be a new religion\u2014like  a new order within the Catholic religion.<\/p>\n<p>All (Catholic or otherwise) should be careful, compare their  teachings with the Bible, pray to God, and not accept doctrines that are  unbiblical for the sake of this coming ecumenical unity.<\/p>\n<p>Since the Feast of Trumpets in 2009, many steps have taken place which appear to be setting the stage for the long expected ecumenical  religion.\u00a0 And  that\u00a0seems to be an important event we should be  watching for.\u00a0 Since the Red  Horseman of war is listed <em>after<\/em> the White Horseman in Revelation 6,  ecumenical issues logically were expected to intensify.\u00a0 Warring activity <em>may<\/em> increase as well relatively soon (Atonement) as much has happened on the ecumenical front already.<\/p>\n<p><em>Those who wish to learn why the ecumenical discussions are dangerous may wish to read  the following articles:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span><a href=\"..\/..\/american-catholics-should-fear-unity-with-greek-orthodox.htm\">Why   Should American Catholics Should Fear Unity with the Orthodox?<\/a><\/span> Are the current ecumenical meetings a good thing or will they result in   disaster?<br \/>\n<a title=\"Permanent Link: Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman   Catholics\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"..\/prophecy\/orthodox-must-reject-unity-with-the-roman-catholics\/\">Orthodox   Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics<\/a> The talks for   unification involve compromise and the apparent rising up of a changed   religion that no one should accept.<br \/>\n<a href=\"..\/..\/catholicprophecy.htm\">Catholic   Prophecies: Do They Mirror, Highlight, or Contradict Biblical   Prophecies?<\/a> People of all faiths may be surprised to see what   various Roman and   Orthodox Catholic prophets have been predicting as   many of their   predictions will be looked to in the 21st century.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>White Horseman Related to \u201cAntichrist\u201d COGwriter The Book of Revelation tells of a time that the first seal will be opened by Jesus.\u00a0 Notice what happens: 1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, &#8220;Come and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4203","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-doctrine"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"White Horseman Related to \u201cAntichrist\u201d COGwriter The Book of Revelation tells of a time that the first seal will be opened by Jesus. 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