{"id":4828,"date":"2010-09-27T18:51:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-28T02:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=4828"},"modified":"2010-09-06T09:26:25","modified_gmt":"2010-09-06T17:26:25","slug":"what-is-going-on-with-the-russian-orthodox","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/prophecy\/what-is-going-on-with-the-russian-orthodox\/","title":{"rendered":"What is Going on with the Russian Orthodox?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/MetropolitanKirill.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"134\" height=\"237\" \/><br \/>\n<em>Patriarch Kirill<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Something is clearly going on with the Russian Orthodox Church and its position towards the Vatican.<\/p>\n<p>Near the time of his election to become Patriarch, then Metropolitan Kirill had made statements suggesting that he wanted to distance his church from the Church of Rome:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2 style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Likely Moscow patriarch stresses differences with Catholic belief<\/h2>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Moscow, Jan 23, 2009 \/ 07:03 am  (CNA).-  An Orthodox prelate considered to be the most likely successor  of  Patriarch of Moscow Alexy II has said that while Orthodox  Christianity  shares similarities with Catholicism, there are a \u201cgreat  number of  differences\u201d on which \u201cthere is no room for compromise.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Metropolitan Kirill, Patriarchal  Locum Tenens of Moscow, made the  remarks in an interview recently  published by Argumenty i Fakty  (Arguments and Facts), SIR reports.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Discussing relations with other  Christian confessions, Metropolitan  Kirill said: \u201cunfortunately,  differences in religious doctrines and  practices have increased between  orthodoxy and other confessions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u201cWith some Protestant communities,  such as the Lutheran Church of  Sweden and the Episcopal Church of the  United States, we have come to a  complete break, due to the official  recognition of homosexual  relations,\u201d he continued.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">While noting that the social  positions of Orthodox Christianity and  the Catholic Church are \u201cmore  close,\u201d the metropolitan said,  \u201cnevertheless, we have be accountable  for a great number of differences  in doctrine and practice between the  Orthodox and the Catholic Churches  and, in this regard, there is no  room for compromise.\u201d http:\/\/catholicnewsagency.com\/new.php?n=14865<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>But this has changed.\u00a0 And did no later than November of 2009:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>Russian Orthodox and Catholic church may end 950-year rift<\/h2>\n<h3>The Catholic and Russian Orthodox Church have held high-level talks  to lay the groundwork for a historic meeting of their two leaders after  centuries of frostiness. (<a title=\"Russian Orthodox and Vatican Closer to Ending Rift\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/religious-news\/russian-orthodox-and-vatican-closer-to-ending-rift\/\">Russian Orthodox and Vatican Closer to Ending Rift<\/a>)<\/h3>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The Russian Patriarch also met with Bartholomew Patriarch of Constantinople in 2010 (announced in <a title=\"Permanent Link to Orthodox Patriarchs of Constantinople and Russia to Meet\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/religious-news\/orthodox-patriarchs-of-constantinople-and-russia-to-meet\/\">Orthodox Patriarchs of Constantinople and Russia to Meet<\/a>).\u00a0 And while such a meeting is standard, the reality is that these two further nourished a relationship that they had when younger.\u00a0 Furthermore, Patriarch Bartholomew made it clear in his encyclical of February 2010 that he not only supports unity talks with Rome, he considers those opposed them as fanatics (see <a title=\"Permanent Link to Bartholomew I Patriarch of Constantinople Opposes Those Who Warn Against Catholic Unity\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/religious-news\/bartholomew-i-patriarch-of-constantinople-opposes-those-who-warn-against-catholic-unity\/\">Bartholomew I Patriarch of Constantinople Opposes Those Who Warn Against Catholic Unity<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Also notice what happened in July 2010:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Metropolitan Hilarion, head of the department for external Church   relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, has welcomed the appointment of   Bishop Kurt Koch of Basel as the new president of the Pontifical Council   for Promoting Christian Unity. With the appointment, Bishop Koch has   been raised to the dignity of an archbishop.<\/p>\n<p>Calling Archbishop Koch \u201ca zealous pastor and serious theologian   committed to the tradition of the early Church and the idea of Christian   unity,\u201d Metropolitan Hilarion said in a message that \u201cI hope that new   prospects for cooperation have been opened for us for the benefit of  the  both Churches.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/news\/headlines\/index.cfm?storyid=6861\">http:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/news\/headlines\/index.cfm?storyid=6861<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice that the the Catholics and Russian Orthodox are now being portrayed as &#8220;Europe&#8217;s Brothers&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>High-ranking  representatives of the Catholic and Russian Orthodox  Churches embraced  on Monday in a moment reflecting a will for unity  between the two  Churches.<\/p>\n<p>A photo of the embrace between Cardinal Peter Erdo and Metropolitan Filaret was printed with the title &#8220;Europe&#8217;s Brothers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;The  Catholic and Russian Orthodox Churches are already united in their  common stance on many issues affecting Europe&#8230;\u00a0 (Catholic, Russian  Orthodox Churches Embrace: Cardinal and Metropolitan Show Will for Unity  at Rimini Meeting.\u00a0 Zenit, August 24, 2010)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thus, the idea of unity is becoming more and more public.<\/p>\n<p>The reality is that while the Russian Orthodox want better relations  with the Vatican, at this time they do not seem inclined to accept Papal  authority.\u00a0  However, if they ever do, this will be dangerous for them AND the Church  of Rome.<\/p>\n<p>The other reality is that Pope Benedict absolutely does want to grow  the Catholic Church in traditional Orthodox regions\u2013but he has mainly  taken the tactic of trying to foster better relations with the Russian  Orthodox so that ultimately they will unify with Rome, and under Rome.\u00a0  Getting the Orthodox to accept Papal authority has long been a goal of  the Roman Pontiff.<\/p>\n<p>Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics often seem to forget their own,  as well as biblical, prophecies that show how this would be a disaster.<\/p>\n<p>Cannot the Russian Patriarch see what is going on?<\/p>\n<p>Whether he does or not, those who claim to be Russian Orthodox need to consider if compromise for the sake of unity is what his church needs.\u00a0 In my view, Patriarch Kirill and his supporters need to spend more time on trying to learn the original faith of the Bible and less on getting involved in the ecumenical movement that is already starting to impact most of the Eastern Orthodox.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><em>To learn more specifically why the Russians, the Orthodox, and Catholics should be concerned, please read the articles below<\/em><em>:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span><a href=\"\/american-catholics-should-fear-unity-with-greek-orthodox.htm\">Why Should American Catholics Should Fear Unity with the Orthodox?<\/a><\/span> Are the current ecumenical meetings a good thing or will they result in disaster?<br \/>\n<a title=\"Permanent Link: Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/prophecy\/orthodox-must-reject-unity-with-the-roman-catholics\/\">Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics<\/a> The talks for unification involve compromise and the apparent rising up of a changed religion that no one should accept.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/orthodox.htm\">Some Similarities and Differences Between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Living Church of God<\/a> Both groups claim to be the original church, but both groups have  differing ways to claim it. Both groups have some amazing similarities  and some major differences. Do you know what they are?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/russia_in_prophecy.htm\">Russia: Its Origins and Prophesied Future<\/a> Where do the Russians come from? What is prophesied for Russia? What  will it do to the Europeans that supported the Beast in the end?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/catholicprophecy.htm\">Catholic Prophecies: Do They Mirror, Highlight, or Contradict Biblical Prophecies?<\/a> People of all faiths may be surprised to see what various Roman and  Orthodox Catholic prophets have been predicting as many of their  predictions will be looked to in the 21st century.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Patriarch Kirill COGwriter Something is clearly going on with the Russian Orthodox Church and its position towards the Vatican. 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