{"id":5477,"date":"2010-11-27T07:41:44","date_gmt":"2010-11-27T15:41:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=5477"},"modified":"2010-11-27T07:57:55","modified_gmt":"2010-11-27T15:57:55","slug":"ucg-loses-8-ministers-in-november","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/ucg-loses-8-ministers-in-november\/","title":{"rendered":"UCG loses 8 ministers in November"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Laodicea\"
\nAncient Laodicea
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COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n

Abigail Cartwright has listed the following as having stopped being part of the UCG ministry this month:<\/p>\n

Mr. Paul Carter, November 2010, resigned from UCG ministry<\/span><\/p>\n

Mr. Ken Giese, November 2010, resigned from UCG ministry<\/p>\n

Mr. Tim Waddle, November 2010, removed as Associate Senior Pastor of East Africa<\/p>\n

Mr. Tom Clark, November 2010, removed as Associate Senior Pastor of Ghana<\/p>\n

Mr. Larry Salyer, November 2010, removed from UCG ministry<\/p>\n

Mr. Edwardi Hern\u00e1ndez, November 2010, resigned from UCG ministry<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And\u00a0UCG<\/a> member John Carmack reported the following a few weeks ago:<\/p>\n

Well, it is official.\u00a0 Jack Hendren has now split off from United Church of God (UCG).\u00a0 He and Arnold Mendez, Jr have started the Church of God \u2013 South Texas<\/a>.\u00a0 Do remember Jack Hendren for later.\u00a0 He is old guard.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

UCG continues to sustain losses.<\/p>\n

Here is something from an open letter from Ken Giese:<\/p>\n

It is with great sadness and grave concern that I write to you all regarding the current crisis gripping the United Church of God. Clearly, we are a house divided against itself and in danger of disintegrating. We have been told that there is a rebellion in our midst, led by wolves who are causing division and seeking to draw brethren to themselves in an effort to \u201cstart their own church\u201d. Our current leadership continues to accuse dedicated pastors with decades of faithful service and experience of leading an organized conspiracy, while at the same time, dismissing some 2,000 Latin American brethren and their pastors without due process, demonizing anyone who would question their authority and demanding the support of members and ministers alike despite their egregious misconduct. The income of the United Church of God is dropping precipitously, morale is sinking and we are about to lose what we have all worked together to build under Christ\u2019s direction for fifteen years. Enough is enough.<\/p>\n

As many of you know, on November 4, 2010, I resigned from my responsibilities as an employed pastor of two UCG congregations (Reno, NV and Sacramento, CA) due to the fact that I could no longer in good conscience support the actions and decisions of the current Council of Elders majority or their appointed administrators.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here is something from Paul Carter’s resignation letter to UCG President Dennis Luker:<\/p>\n

Dear Denny,<\/p>\n

I have known you and some of the men on the council and administration for many years. I now write to you the president of the United Church of God an International Association, with regret for the position we find ourselves in as an organization and body. When hired into the full time ministry of the United Church of God, I never imagined the Church or myself coming to a day like this.<\/p>\n

For many years now the ministry of the United Church of God has not been walking together…<\/p>\n

As an employee, I can no longer support the current Council or administration because of their actions, based on Gods standards and scriptural principles. I hereby tender my resignation as an employee of the United Church of God AIA effective immediately. My signature is affixed to this letter. I in no way resign as a minister of Jesus Christ.<\/p>\n

I pray that God will grant repentance to you, the Council of Elders, and the current administration of the United Church of God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

UCG has never truly been “united” and the events of this year seem to be driving this point to many more than in prior years.\u00a0 And I have always had problems with the way it decided to govern itself.<\/p>\n

As I reported earlier this month (see UCG 2010 Financial Statements Show Income Drop<\/a>), UCG spends an inordinate amount of its income on its form of governance and administration.<\/p>\n

Despite its relatively massive amounts of spending in this area, UCG continues to have major problems with its form of governance.\u00a0 Getting back to a more biblically-appropriate form of governance is something that few, however, in UCG seem to be advocating.<\/p>\n

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n

Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government<\/a> What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical? Which form of governance would one expect to have in the Philadelphia remnant? The people decide and\/or committee forms, odd dictatorships, or the same type that the Philadelphia era itself had?
\nUnity: Which COG for You?<\/a> Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God? Has it always been this way? What can\/should be done about it?
\nDifferences between the Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a> This article provides quotes information from the two largest groups which had their origins in WCG as well as commentary.
\nThere are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God?<\/a> This is an article for those who wish to more easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG\/GCI members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.
\nShould the Church Still Try to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did Herbert W. Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work?<\/a> Some say the Church should mainly feed the flock now as that is what Herbert W. Armstrong reportedly said. Is that what he said? Is that what the Bible says? What did Paul<\/a> and Herbert W. Armstrong<\/a> expect from evangelists?
\nThe Laodicean Church Era <\/a>has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Ancient Laodicea COGwriter Abigail Cartwright has listed the following as having stopped being part of the UCG ministry this month: Mr. Paul Carter, November 2010, resigned from UCG ministry Mr. Ken Giese, November 2010, resigned from UCG ministry Mr. Tim Waddle, November 2010, removed as Associate Senior Pastor of East Africa Mr. Tom Clark, November […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5477","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cog-news"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5477","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5477"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5477\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5483,"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5477\/revisions\/5483"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5477"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5477"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5477"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}