{"id":6339,"date":"2011-02-13T07:00:43","date_gmt":"2011-02-13T15:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=6339"},"modified":"2011-02-13T08:14:45","modified_gmt":"2011-02-13T16:14:45","slug":"tongas-heamasi-k-taufoou-makes-166-ucg-ministerial-losses-whats-the-message","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/tongas-heamasi-k-taufoou-makes-166-ucg-ministerial-losses-whats-the-message\/","title":{"rendered":"Tonga&#8217;s Heamasi K. Ta&#8217;ufo&#8217;ou Makes 166 UCG Ministerial Losses.  What&#8217;s the Message?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"\/bible.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"283\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Abigail Cartwright (AC) site listed one more loss to UCG&#8217;s eldership:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<li>Mr. Heamasi K. Ta&#8217;ufo&#8217;ou (Pastor, Tonga)&#8230; resigned from UCG ministry<\/li>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Losing its Tongan pastor would seem to suggest that the ministry of UCG had problems all over the world as Tonga is fairly remote.\u00a0 Note: As of this morning, Heamasi K. Ta&#8217;ufo&#8217;ou was not listed as part of <a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\">COGWA <\/a>on its congregations page, but that could change as COGWA seems a little slow about updating some of its web pages.<\/p>\n<p>According to the list at the AC site today, UCG has lost 166 elders\/pastors\/ministers since June 0f 2010.  But this only represents about 1\/3 of UCG&#8217;s pre-crisis eldership.\u00a0  However, <strong>UCG has admitted to losing 53% of its salaried USA ministry from this crisis<\/strong>, so organizationally it has been hit pretty hard.\u00a0 The loss of so many paid and full-time elders suggests a great level of dissatisfaction amongst the UCG ministry.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, I received an email from a UCG member who essentially stated that this crisis has not been an issue for his congregation and that it has not been tough for him.<\/p>\n<p>I responded to him that this has been tough for the organization as well as for those who are or were in UCG.\u00a0 I also mentioned<span> that not though not all in UCG are personally struggling about where to be, this crisis has disrupted UCG, its income, certain of its objectives, and its  implication that it was united.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Now, this UCG member did ask me the following question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span><span>What  do you think the chance is that these men can come together to agree to support  a government when they aren\u2019t really in agreement and in many cases have failed  to be able to work with <strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">any<\/span><\/strong> form of church governance since UCG  days?<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My response was,<span> I do not consider that their chances in <a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\">COGWA<\/a> are that good, but also mentioned that for various  reasons, they may stay together. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>As regular readers should be aware, I do not believe that it is particularly beneficial to go from UCG to COGWA (consider Jesus&#8217; words, &#8220;<\/span>be zealous and repent<span>&#8221; in Revelation 3:19; the type of change from UCG to COGWA does not seem consistent with being zealous or repenting to me).\u00a0 In my view, the crisis in UCG could have been resolved differently.\u00a0 Both sides seem to be clinging to the mistakes that some on the other side made to justify to themselves what they have done and\/or are doing.\u00a0 And though I am convinced that there were some mistakes made by those still in UCG and some of those who left UCG, if UCG was truly &#8220;united&#8221; in a spirit of cooperative humility the issues could have been resolved.\u00a0 But now, with egos, lack of forgiveness, a compromised attitude towards proper church governance, personal vanity, and bruised feelings, the crisis keeps affecting UCG and those once part of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>So, what&#8217;s the message?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Forgiveness and warnings seem to have been overlooked.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">LCG&#8217;s<\/a> Dr. Winnail happened to have had the following in yesterday&#8217;s <a href=\"\/dw0210.htm\">Living Church of God World Ahead Weekly Update<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>The Power of Forgiveness: <\/strong>One of the   important keys for working together with other people is the willingness and the   ability to <em>forgive<\/em> someone for real or perceived words or actions.\u00a0And,   that is exactly  what Christians must learn to do.\u00a0The Scriptures state that as    individuals, we have all sinned, but that we can be forgiven because of  the   sacrifice of Jesus Christ who died for our sins (Romans 3:23-26;  John   3:16).\u00a0However, Jesus taught that we must also be ready and  willing to <em>forgive others<\/em> who offend us\u2014<em>or God will not forgive us<\/em> (Matthew   6:12-15).\u00a0Forgiving others involves not holding grudges or  harboring bitterness   against others, not seeking to get even, and not  gossiping or saying negative or   derogatory things about others who  have made mistakes or hurt us in some   way.\u00a0This is not always easy,  especially when memories, emotions and personal   pride are involved,  but that is what we are admonished to do if we want to be <em>real<\/em> Christians\u2014we must <em>learn<\/em> to forgive.\u00a0Forgiveness is a   powerful tool that makes working together with other human beings possible\u2014and   enjoyable!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Forgiveness seems to have been overlooked by many.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, I believe that the UCG crisis is a wake  up call, a \u201cknocking on the door\u201d   (cf. Revelation 3:20) if you will, for those  in or formerly in UCG.\u00a0   Yet, it seems that most who are or were part of UCG have not truly   understood this  as a warning as they have tended to be satisfied with a work   that was not hot  (Revelation 3:14-17). <strong>This crisis affecting  UCG\/COGWA could be part of the final warning to those who have rejected  <a href=\"..\/..\/church_governance.htm\">Philadelphia-era governance<\/a> and <a href=\"..\/..\/work.htm\">gospel proclamation priorities<\/a> to get them to  consider their state<\/strong> (Revelation 3:17-19).<\/p>\n<p>Also notice something that Isaiah was inspired to write:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>8 Now go, write it before them on a tablet,<br \/>\nAnd note it on a scroll,<br \/>\nThat it may be for time to come,<br \/>\nForever and ever:<br \/>\n9 That this is a rebellious people,<br \/>\nLying children,<br \/>\nChildren who will not hear the law of the Lord;<br \/>\n10 Who say to the seers, &#8220;Do not see,&#8221;<br \/>\nAnd to the prophets, &#8220;Do not prophesy to us right things;<br \/>\nSpeak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits.\u00a0 (Isaiah 30:8-10)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Many people prefer to hear &#8220;smooth things&#8221;, but I believe that pointing out these matters shows love as Jesus seemed to have pretty strong messages in the end for the people of God (cf. Revelation 3, the entire chapter).<\/p>\n<p>If you are or were part of UCG and are confused about what to do, please pray, fast, and study the Bible about this.\u00a0 Note: I am not trying to say, by quoting Isaiah, that I believe that all of those in or once in UCG are intentionally lawbreakers or &#8220;Lying children&#8221;, but basically that all should be &#8220;zealous&#8221; as Jesus said in Revelation 3:19 and not be satisfied with something less than a Philadelphia type of work and form of church governance.<\/p>\n<p>Ask yourself what are the true priorities that the Bible indicates that the church most faithful to the words of Jesus would do and act appropriately.<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government<\/a> What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical?         Which form of governance would one expect to have in the            Philadelphia       remnant? The people decide and\/or committee    forms,         odd dictatorships,  or   the same type that the    Philadelphia era         itself      had?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/unity.htm\">Unity: Which COG for You?<\/a> Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God?        Has it always been this way? What can\/should be done about it?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">Differences between the           Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a> This article    provides          quotes information from the two      largest groups which    had their         origins      in WCG as well as      commentary.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">There are Many COGs: Why        Support the Living Church of God?<\/a> This is an article for those  who          wish to more easily sort out      the different COGs. It really   should   be    a          MUST READ     for  current and former WCG\/GCI   members or  any        interested        in     supporting the faithful   church. It also   explains a         lot   of  what   the   COGs   are all   about.<br \/>\n<em><em><\/em><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogwa.htm\">Concerns about Church of God, a Worldwide Association <\/a> Known as COGWA, this seems to be the largest group that came out of the United Church of God.  Here is some history and concerns about it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/work.htm\">Should the Church Still Try    to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did   Herbert           W.     Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work?<\/a> Some   say   the       Church     should mainly feed the flock now as   that is   what   Herbert  W.       Armstrong    reportedly said.  Is that   what  he  said?    Is that  what    the    Bible says?   What did <a href=\"\/paul.htm\">Paul<\/a> and <a href=\"\/herbertwarmstrong.htm\">Herbert W. Armstrong<\/a> expect from evangelists?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/laodiceachurch.htm\">The Laodicean  Church Era <\/a>has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/when-will-the-great-tribulation-begin.htm\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>COGwriter The Abigail Cartwright (AC) site listed one more loss to UCG&#8217;s eldership: Mr. Heamasi K. Ta&#8217;ufo&#8217;ou (Pastor, Tonga)&#8230; resigned from UCG ministry Losing its Tongan pastor would seem to suggest that the ministry of UCG had problems all over the world as Tonga is fairly remote.\u00a0 Note: As of this morning, Heamasi K. 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