{"id":6435,"date":"2011-02-22T07:23:35","date_gmt":"2011-02-22T15:23:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=6435"},"modified":"2011-02-22T07:29:20","modified_gmt":"2011-02-22T15:29:20","slug":"david-hulmes-cogaic-vision-less","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/david-hulmes-cogaic-vision-less\/","title":{"rendered":"David Hulme&#8217;s COGaIC Vision-Less?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"\/bible.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"283\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>During the <a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">United Church of God<\/a> (UCG) crisis, I have occasionally mentioned <a href=\"\/cogaic.htm\">COGaIC&#8217;s<\/a> David Hulme.\u00a0 David Hulme was the first president of UCG.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif; color: black;\">Somewhere around February  1998, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif; color: black;\">after  a variety of governance and managerial bickering, the UCG Board decided  to not continue David Hulme&#8217;s presidency.\u00a0 And at that time, he and one board supporter (Peter Nathan)  decided to leave the United Church of God and form <a href=\"\/cogaic.htm\">COGaIC<\/a>. And until the formation of <\/span><a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\">COGWA<\/a><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif; color: black;\">, COGaIC was the largest group to have split from UCG.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif; color: black;\">Without  going into all the details, I felt that from what I studied that the UCG Board  was justified for removing David Hulme, but I also felt that the two  doctrinal issues David Hulme then raised (better <a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">governance<\/a> and <a href=\"\/work.htm\">being more proactive in proclaiming the gospel<\/a>)  suggested that COGaic may have less doctrinal errors than UCG (who  continued to have doctrinal changes as are documented in the article <a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">Differences between the Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif; color: black;\">Now I am less sure about<\/span><span style=\"color: black;\"> the gospel and prophetic doctrinal aspects. Especially since UCG seems to be doing more to publicly proclaim  the Gospel of the Kingdom now that David Hulme is gone than David  Hulme&#8217;s current church does. <\/span> My  basic impression is that COGaIC believes that it reaches people a  different way with a more intellectually modern message (mainly with its <em>Vision<\/em> magazine website) and hence that  it feels that it adequately is proclaiming the gospel to the best of its ability.\u00a0 And it terms of prophecy, COGaIC&#8217;s unwillingness to teach &#8220;<a href=\"\/era.htm\">church eras&#8221;<\/a> (nor, does UCG officially) and explain current events in the light of end time Bible prophecy has been disappointing to me.<\/p>\n<p>As I have not reported much about them lately, today, I checked out COGaIC&#8217;s Vision website.\u00a0 The last issue of <em>Vision<\/em> apparently was from the Fall of 2010.\u00a0 The latest post on <em>Vision Blog<\/em> (formerly actually called <em>HulmeVision<\/em>) was dated January 3, 2011.<\/p>\n<p>The latest post on David Hulme&#8217;s <em>Causes of Conflict <\/em>blog is dated November 3, 2010.\u00a0 The <em>Causes of Conflict <\/em>blog is mainly supposed to be about events in the Middle East.\u00a0 Considering all that has been happening in the Middle East (like Tunisia, Egypt, Iran, and Libya), and the fact that David Hulme holds a doctorate in International Relations with an emphasis on the Middle East, this lack of coverage at the <em>Causes of Conflict <\/em>blog seems unusual.\u00a0 One might ask, &#8220;Where&#8217;s the vision?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When I went to the New\/Press link at the Vision website today and noticed that its last update was May 9, 2009, it again struck me that Vision has less updates on many matters than it once did.\u00a0 And while the website once had an Alexa ranking of about 100,000, which is quite good (COGwriter&#8217;s Alexa ranking is currently 148,605), Vision&#8217;s Alexa ranking dropped a lot and currently is 496,317.\u00a0 This suggests that Vision is simply not having much of an impact on the web.\u00a0 And the web seems to be the primary media of public proclamation that COGaIC is currently utilizing.\u00a0 There is simply less going on with COGaIC&#8217;s Vision site.<\/p>\n<p>If you are or were part of UCG\/COGaIC\/COGWA and are confused about what to do, please pray, fast, and study the Bible about this and the events of the past year, or even past 16 years.  All should be &#8220;zealous&#8221; as Jesus said in Revelation 3:19 and not be satisfied with something less than a Philadelphia type of work and form of church governance.<\/p>\n<p>Ask yourself what are the true priorities that the Bible indicates that the church most faithful to the words of Jesus would do and act appropriately.<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogaic.htm\">Church of God, an International Community (COG aic)<\/a> This is the group led by David Hulme.  It seems to minimize parts of biblical prophecy and be restrictive on doctrinal statements.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government<\/a> What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical?         Which form of governance would one expect to have in the            Philadelphia       remnant? The people decide and\/or committee    forms,         odd dictatorships,  or   the same type that the    Philadelphia era         itself      had?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/unity.htm\">Unity: Which COG for You?<\/a> Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God?        Has it always been this way? What can\/should be done about it?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">Differences between the           Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a> This article    provides          quotes information from the two      largest groups which    had their         origins      in WCG as well as      commentary.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">There are Many COGs: Why        Support the Living Church of God?<\/a> This is an article for those  who          wish to more easily sort out      the different COGs. It really   should   be    a          MUST READ     for  current and former WCG\/GCI   members or  any        interested        in     supporting the faithful   church. It also   explains a         lot   of  what   the   COGs   are all   about.<br \/>\n<em><em><\/em><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogwa.htm\">Concerns about Church of God, a Worldwide Association <\/a> Known as COGWA, this seems to be the largest group that came out of the United Church of God.  Here is some history and concerns about it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/work.htm\">Should the Church Still Try    to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did   Herbert           W.     Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work?<\/a> Some   say   the       Church     should mainly feed the flock now as   that is   what   Herbert  W.       Armstrong    reportedly said.  Is that   what  he  said?    Is that  what    the    Bible says?   What did <a href=\"\/paul.htm\">Paul<\/a> and <a href=\"\/herbertwarmstrong.htm\">Herbert W. Armstrong<\/a> expect from evangelists?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/laodiceachurch.htm\">The Laodicean  Church Era <\/a>has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/when-will-the-great-tribulation-begin.htm\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>COGwriter During the United Church of God (UCG) crisis, I have occasionally mentioned COGaIC&#8217;s David Hulme.\u00a0 David Hulme was the first president of UCG. 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