{"id":6441,"date":"2011-02-22T15:35:47","date_gmt":"2011-02-22T23:35:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=6441"},"modified":"2011-02-22T15:35:47","modified_gmt":"2011-02-22T23:35:47","slug":"ac-explains-cogwas-use-of-ucg-camps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/ac-explains-cogwas-use-of-ucg-camps\/","title":{"rendered":"AC Explains COGWA&#8217;s Use of &#8216;UCG&#8217; Camps"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"\/bible.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"283\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Abigail Cartwright (AC) site posted the following today:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Winter Family Weekend and Camps<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We  have been asked why the Church of God, a Worldwide Association has use  of some of the facilities previously used by the United Church of God  for the Winter Family Weekend and some of the camp facilities.<\/p>\n<p>Before  last year\u2019s Winter Family Weekend began, the event coordinator, Mark  Winner, notified the leadership of the United Church of God that he  planned to leave that organization but agreed to stay until he had  completed his responsibilities with the WFW. Mr. Winner resigned from  UCG at the end of the WFW.<\/p>\n<p>Following the 2010 WFW, a  representative of the Galt House spoke with Mr. Winner and asked about  plans for 2011. Mr. Winner told the person that he was no longer an  employee of UCG and that someone else from that organization might be  contacting them. But the representative preferred to offer the facility  to Mr. Winner as an agent for the Church of God, a Worldwide  Association.<\/p>\n<p>According to the APEX Accepted Practices for  the Convention Industry Council, all options and renewals must be  clearly stipulated in the contract. If no renewal option or right of  first refusal clause is included in an existing contract, the contract  concludes when business has been completed on the final day of the  event. After the conclusion of the contracted event, the property is  free to negotiate and enter a new contract with any interested party  that the property believes would be in its best interest.<\/p>\n<p>Since  there was no renewal option in the contract and since no UCG  representative had contacted the Galt House expressing interest in using  the facility the following year, the representative was free to offer  and did choose to offer the facility to Mr. Winner and COGWA. Mr. Winner  accepted the offer. This acceptance of the Galt House\u2019s offer was in  keeping with industry standards.<\/p>\n<p>As for Pinecrest, in  mid-January Greg Sargent notified the manager that he was no longer with  UCG. The manager immediately wanted to know where the former national  camp coordinator was and where other full-time staff were\u2014most would be  with COGWA. Although he understood that someone else from UCG would  probably be contacting him about using the camp this summer, he made the  decision to work with COGWA, the people he knew. Mr. Sargent told the  manager that he did not want to interfere with the camp\u2019s right to  continue to do business with UCG. Just this week, the manager rethought  his position and stated he felt he should be neutral and allow the two  groups to decide who should use the camp. COGWA camp coordinator Ken  Treybig discussed it with Mr. Sargent and promptly notified the manager,  as well as UCG, that COGWA would not be using Pinecrest this year.<\/p>\n<p>In  the case of Winter Camp, Gary Black met with the Sky Lodge Camp manager  at the end of camp to pay the bill. At this meeting he informed the  manager he would be leaving UCG and that someone from UCG would likely  be in contact with them about booking the camp. Three weeks later he  called to ask if anyone from UCG had contacted the camp. On Jan. 25 the  manager returned the call to say that someone from UCG had contacted  them and was interested in using the camp. However, he said he and his  staff had met to discuss their options and the staff consensus was they  wanted to continue to deal with Mr. Black. He said that he believed our  camp program would continue to be successful and that was important to  them from a business perspective.<\/p>\n<p>The managers of  Pinecrest and Winter Camp made their own decisions without any coercion  or pressure from COGWA. These camps were notified of the change in  organizations and that we would not interfere if UCG wanted to use them  again. However, their managers decided they wanted to do business with  the men who are now part of COGWA. When the Pinecrest manager indicated  he had rethought his position, we promptly released him from his prior  statement.<\/p>\n<p>Camp Carter and Camp Heritage were booked only after UCG notified Mr. Treybig that it would not be using these camps.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This information does not seem to be at <a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\">COGWA&#8217;s<\/a> official website.\u00a0 Someday, perhaps whoever runs the AC website will make a public explanation of it and when he\/she\/they decided to become a COGWA site (and any prior relationship with <a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">UCG<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>I suspect some issues related to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/feast.htm\">Feast of Tabernacles&#8217;<\/a> sites might also arise between the groups.\u00a0 If not this year, then likely in 2012.<\/p>\n<p>This crisis has been a real struggle for those in or once part of UCG as parties on both sides seem to be offended by the actions of those on the other side.  This split is also seems to be causing financial tensions for the two primary groups affected.  It is also causing confusion.<\/p>\n<p>If you are or were part of UCG and are confused about what to do, please pray, fast, and study the Bible about this.<\/p>\n<p>Ask yourself what are the true priorities that the Bible indicates that the church most faithful to the words of Jesus would do and act appropriately.<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government<\/a> What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical?         Which form of governance would one expect to have in the            Philadelphia       remnant? The people decide and\/or committee    forms,         odd dictatorships,  or   the same type that the    Philadelphia era         itself      had?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/unity.htm\">Unity: Which COG for You?<\/a> Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God?        Has it always been this way? What can\/should be done about it?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">Differences between the           Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a> This article    provides          quotes information from the two      largest groups which    had their         origins      in WCG as well as      commentary.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">There are Many COGs: Why        Support the Living Church of God?<\/a> This is an article for those  who          wish to more easily sort out      the different COGs. It really   should   be    a          MUST READ     for  current and former WCG\/GCI   members or  any        interested        in     supporting the faithful   church. It also   explains a         lot   of  what   the   COGs   are all   about.<br \/>\n<em><em><span style=\"color: teal;\"><span style=\"color: black;\"><a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\"><em> <\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogwa.htm\">Concerns about Church of God, a Worldwide Association <\/a> This seems to be the largest group that came out of the United Church of God.  Here is some history and concerns about it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/work.htm\">Should the Church Still Try    to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did   Herbert           W.     Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work?<\/a> Some   say   the       Church     should mainly feed the flock now as   that is   what   Herbert  W.       Armstrong    reportedly said.  Is that   what  he  said?    Is that  what    the    Bible says?   What did <a href=\"\/paul.htm\">Paul<\/a> and <a href=\"\/herbertwarmstrong.htm\">Herbert W. Armstrong<\/a> expect from evangelists?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/laodiceachurch.htm\">The Laodicean  Church Era <\/a>has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>COGwriter The Abigail Cartwright (AC) site posted the following today: Winter Family Weekend and Camps We have been asked why the Church of God, a Worldwide Association has use of some of the facilities previously used by the United Church of God for the Winter Family Weekend and some of the camp facilities. 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