{"id":6564,"date":"2011-03-07T00:19:16","date_gmt":"2011-03-07T08:19:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=6564"},"modified":"2011-03-06T17:47:56","modified_gmt":"2011-03-07T01:47:56","slug":"pcgcpgwa-third-largest-cog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/pcgcpgwa-third-largest-cog\/","title":{"rendered":"Move Over PCG, COGWA Now Seems to be Third Largest COG"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"\/bible.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"283\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jim Franks, of the <a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\">Church of God, a Worldwide Association <\/a>(COGWA), sent out an email letter to COGWA&#8217;s ministry with some very interesting statistics:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As of March 1, we have more than 200 congregations holding weekly services with  more than 170 elders and 8,000 in attendance around the world.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As I reported yesterday the number of congregations claimed is now 232.\u00a0 Also as I reported last week, it appears that 174 elders resigned (mainly voluntarily, but some involuntarily) from the <a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">United Church of God<\/a> (UCG) since June 2010.\u00a0 Thus, Jim Frank&#8217;s letter suggests that nearly all of them have made their way to become part of COGWA.\u00a0 The announced membership\/attendance figures suggest that COGWA is likely now the third largest  COG.<\/p>\n<p>UCG, the group that COGWA broke away from, <em>may<\/em> still be the largest (and probably is).\u00a0  The <a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">Living Church of God <\/a>(LCG) still seems to be the second largest (though possibly not by very much).  Gerald Flurry&#8217;s improperly named <a href=\"\/pcg.htm\">Philadelphia Church of God<\/a> (PCG) was third in size and now is apparently fourth.  David Hulme&#8217;s<a href=\"\/cogaic.htm\"> COGaIC<\/a> is probably fifth.\u00a0 Once the Fall 2011 <a href=\"\/feast.htm\">Feast of Tabernacles&#8217;<\/a> attendance figures are released (which is something that UCG and LCG have always done, and COGWA will probably do), sizes will be clearer (some in UCG may still go to COGWA or elsewhere, and some who have started attending COGWA may leave it).\u00a0 (PCG generally does not publicly release its Feast of Tabernacles&#8217; attendance figures, and COGaIC has not publicly done so for years; both groups seem to have less attendees than they each had at their peaks a few years ago.)\u00a0 Of all the COGs, LCG spends the most money and other resources to attempt to reach the world with Christ&#8217;s gospel of the kingdom (Matthew 24:14).<\/p>\n<p>Although there has been a lull in the number of elders leaving UCG for COGWA in the past couple of weeks, I have received word that more members are transitioning over to COGWA from UCG.\u00a0 If UCG actually has lost over 8,000 people (and since not all in COGWA necessarily came from UCG, it may not have), UCG is in a worse situation than it has seemed.\u00a0 Hence UCG&#8217;s recent income projections showing a 22.5% decrease, made last week by its Treasurer Aaron Dean (see <a title=\"UCG\u2019s Aaron Dean Reports Finances, AC Reports Another Ministerial Loss\" href=\"\/news\/cog-news\/ucgs-aaron-dean-reports-finances-ac-reports-another-ministerial-loss\/\">UCG\u2019s Aaron Dean Reports Finances, AC Reports Another Ministerial Loss<\/a>), may prove to be too optimistic.\u00a0 Time will tell (since UCG, like LCG, publishes audited financial statements, UCG&#8217;s income for its fiscal year ending 6\/30\/2011 should become public no later than next Fall).<\/p>\n<p><strong>COGWA&#8217;s Spending<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the same letter, Jim Franks also reported:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Starting over is not easy, but within a matter of 10 weeks a new organization is  up and running\u2014not quite on all cylinders just yet\u2014but up and running. On Feb.  7, sixty employees began work for COGWA.\u00a0 As of March 1, we began providing  financial support for international areas (Latin America, South Africa,  Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Ghana, the Philippines, Caribbean, French regions of  Africa, France and New Zealand\u2014with more to come). This will be a large  financial undertaking, to the tune of $900,000 on an annual basis. Outside of  the employment of 60 people, this will be the largest expenditure to date for  the new organization.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The above is consistent with what I expected (as well as what I have, in writing, warned about COGWA).\u00a0 COGWA&#8217;s main financial priorities seem to be to provide employment for ministers as well as to provide other financial support for their congregations.\u00a0 Gospel proclamation will likely to continue to take a lower priority.\u00a0 And while some will argue about what to expect from a group that did not officially form until December 23, 2010, I will simply state that the old Global Church of God (the vast majority of whom ended up in LCG) was on radio within two months of its formation, and the Living Church of God had a telecast on superstation WGN within two months of its formation in late 1998.\u00a0 There is a difference in priorities in the COGs.<\/p>\n<p>To me this is clear.\u00a0 Others will have excuses, but remember that Jesus taught, &#8220;For where your <em>treasure<\/em> is, there your heart will be also&#8221; (Matthew 6:21, NIV).<\/p>\n<p>I believe that the crisis was a wake  up call, a \u201cknocking on the door\u201d  (cf. Revelation 3:20) if you will, for those  in or formerly in UCG.\u00a0  Yet, it seems that most who are or were part of UCG have not truly  understood this  warning as they have tended to be satisfied with a work  that was not hot  (Revelation 3:14-17). <strong>This crisis affecting  UCG\/COGWA could be part of the final warning to those who have rejected  <a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">Philadelphia-era governance<\/a> and <a href=\"\/work.htm\">gospel proclamation priorities<\/a> to get them to  consider their state<\/strong> (Revelation 3:17-19).<\/p>\n<p>Notice something that Isaiah was inspired to write:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>8 Now go, write it before them on a tablet,<br \/>\nAnd note it on a scroll,<br \/>\nThat it may be for time to come,<br \/>\nForever and ever:<br \/>\n9 That this is a rebellious people,<br \/>\nLying children,<br \/>\nChildren who will not hear the law of the Lord;<br \/>\n10 Who say to the seers, \u201cDo not see,\u201d<br \/>\nAnd to the prophets, \u201cDo not prophesy to us right things;<br \/>\nSpeak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits.  (Isaiah 30:8-10)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Many people prefer to hear \u201csmooth things\u201d, but I believe that  pointing out these spending matters shows love as Jesus seemed to have pretty  strong messages in the end for the people of God, including their works (cf. Revelation 3, the  entire chapter) and\/or approach to it.\u00a0 This crisis has been a real struggle for many of those in or once part  of UCG as many on both sides seem to be offended by the actions of those  on the other side.  This split is also seems to be causing financial  and organizational tensions for the two primary groups affected.<\/p>\n<p>If you are or were part of UCG\/COGWA and are confused about what to do, please pray, fast, and study the Bible about this.<\/p>\n<p>Ask yourself what are the true priorities that the Bible indicates that the church most faithful to the words of Jesus would do and act appropriately.<\/p>\n<p>Can you see what really has happened?\u00a0 Is this YOUR time to support the primary group that is doing the gospel proclaiming work?<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government<\/a> What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical?         Which form of governance would one expect to have in the            Philadelphia       remnant? The people decide and\/or committee    forms,         odd dictatorships,  or   the same type that the    Philadelphia era         itself      had?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/unity.htm\">Unity: Which COG for You?<\/a> Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God?        Has it always been this way? What can\/should be done about it?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">Differences between the           Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a> This article    provides          quotes information from the two      largest groups which    had their         origins      in WCG as well as      commentary.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">There are Many COGs: Why        Support the Living Church of God?<\/a> This is an article for those  who          wish to more easily sort out      the different COGs. It really   should   be    a          MUST READ     for  current and former WCG\/GCI   members or  any        interested        in     supporting the faithful   church. It also   explains a         lot   of  what   the   COGs   are all   about.<br \/>\n<em><em><span style=\"color: teal;\"><span style=\"color: black;\"><a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\"><em> <\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogwa.htm\">Concerns about Church of God, a Worldwide Association <\/a> This seems to be the largest group that came out of the United Church of God.  Here is some history and concerns about it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/work.htm\">Should the Church Still Try    to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did   Herbert           W.     Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work?<\/a> Some   say   the       Church     should mainly feed the flock now as   that is   what   Herbert  W.       Armstrong    reportedly said.  Is that   what  he  said?    Is that  what    the    Bible says?   What did <a href=\"\/paul.htm\">Paul<\/a> and <a href=\"\/herbertwarmstrong.htm\">Herbert W. 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