{"id":7146,"date":"2011-05-06T06:48:24","date_gmt":"2011-05-06T14:48:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=7146"},"modified":"2011-05-06T11:38:55","modified_gmt":"2011-05-06T19:38:55","slug":"ucg-says-now-is-not-the-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/cog-news\/ucg-says-now-is-not-the-time\/","title":{"rendered":"UCG Says, &#8220;Now is Not the Time&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/beyondtoday.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"50\" height=\"50\" \/><br \/>\nUCG&#8217;s Logo for its Beyond Today television program<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In its May edition of <em>United News<\/em>, Victor Kubik of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/ucg.htm\">United Church of God<\/a> (UCG) wrote the following (which was posted today at the United News website):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>Forward! Now is Not the Time&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>We have glimpses into the identity of the <a href=\"\/europa.htm\">Beast<\/a>, the <a href=\"\/sdawhite.htm\">False Prophet<\/a>,  the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/kingofthenorth.htm\">King of the North<\/a> and the <a href=\"\/south.htm\">King of the South<\/a>. We know that things  will get really bad before the end of this age.However it grates on me when at a time of great calamity, terrorism,  natural disaster or loss of life that some are quick to pontificate,  \u201cThere it is! Prophecy is being fulfilled!\u201d Lively discussion ensues as  speculation of what exactly in the Bible this particular catastrophe  might refer to while we simultaneously watch televised reports of  horror, misery and grief in the lives of thousands and even millions of  people.<\/p>\n<p>The book of Ecclesiastes tells us that there is a time for all things.  There is an appropriate time to proclaim. There is a time to mourn and  weep. As Christians we need to be sensitive to how we act and react&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>An important aspect of our Christianity is to know when to proclaim and  when to be like Jesus, who knowing that Jerusa- lem would be destroyed,  wept because of what was going to happen: \u201cHe saw the city and wept  over it, saying, \u2018If you had known, even you, especially in this your  day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from  your eyes\u201d (Luke:19:41-42<span style=\"color: green;\">[41]<\/span>And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,<span style=\"color: green;\">[42]<\/span>Saying,  If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things  which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.).<\/p>\n<p>A Christian is not noted for his intel- lectual prowess\u2014it\u2019s his love that carries meaning.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While Victor Kubik is correct that love is important, I would suggest that the Book of Daniel shows that the wise (who presumably would be certain Christians in the end time) would understand what is happening.\u00a0 Daniel 12:10 specifically states, &#8220;the wise shall understand&#8221; (NKJV).<\/p>\n<p>And while love is important (and the most important element for Christians), I believe that those of us who have the &#8220;love of the truth&#8221; (cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:10) will want to include the truth about Bible prophecy to help warn the world (Matthew 24:14).\u00a0 It is not that I do not believe that UCG in general or Victor Kubik in particular are opposed to that, it is just that I feel that articles with titles such as &#8220;Now is Not the Time&#8221; indicate that we are not as far along prophetically as we seem to be.<\/p>\n<p>Previously, in its <em>World News &amp; Prophecy<\/em>, UCG published the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is midsummer and there seems to be a lull in the news as I write.  No big   event or crisis has erupted. You can tell this by the headlines  on the   Internet\u2014there are none&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>When you look at the flow of events in the Bible, from creation  forward to   today, you see a lot of high points such as the time of  Abraham, the Exodus,   David and Solomon, and Christ and the apostles.  But these events are separated   by at times hundreds of years when not  much seems to be happening.<\/p>\n<p>But something is happening in those in-between years. Everyday life  is taking   place. People are &#8220;marrying and giving in marriage.&#8221; Babies  are born and   families grow. People rejoice and mourn within the  normal cycles of life and   death. Life goes on, and sometimes it is no  more exciting than sitting on a   front porch and watching the hours  slip by.<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s okay. God did not determine that we would always be  hyped up in   alert mode. Prophecy is not to be used that way. Prophecy  is a compass that   helps us see our world for what it is, from God&#8217;s  point of view. We can   understand the high points of history and know  that God is guiding the world to   a point where He will completely take  over with the appearance of His   Kingdom.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026Enjoy the life you have and make the most of   it within the  framework of God\u2019s way of life. Understand that at times life is    experienced while sitting on a \u201cfront porch.\u201d (McNeely D. Restoration:  View From the Front Porch. World News &amp; Prophecy. August 2007).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>UCG and the <a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">Living Church of God<\/a> (LCG) seem to have a different perspective on this.\u00a0 While we in LCG have not dogmatically declared anyone the <a href=\"\/europa.htm\">Beast <\/a>or the <a href=\"\/sdawhite.htm\">False Prophet<\/a> (groups like <a href=\"\/triumph.htm\">TPM<\/a> come to mind for that type of thing) we never-the-less do suspect that the beginning of sorrows has begun (see <a title=\"Permanent Link to LCG: Beginning of Sorrows May Have Begun\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/prophecy\/lcg-beginning-of-sorrows-may-have-began\/\">LCG: Beginning of Sorrows May Have Begun<\/a>) and that many world events are consistent with Jesus&#8217; teachings about what would happen then.\u00a0 Notice some of what Jesus taught:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Take heed that no one deceives you.\u00a0 5 For many will come in My name, saying, &#8216;I am the Christ,&#8217; and will deceive many.\u00a0 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.\u00a0 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.\u00a0 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.<\/p>\n<p>9 &#8220;Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name&#8217;s sake.\u00a0 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.\u00a0 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.\u00a0 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.\u00a0 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved.\u00a0 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come&#8230;.42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. (Matthew 24:4-14, 42)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jesus repeatedly told His followers to watch (Matthew 24:42; 25:13; Mark 13:9; 33-37; Luke 21:35; Revelation 3:3).\u00a0 And He meant events such as those in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21&#8211;events related to the beginning of sorrows, as well as the Great Tribulation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UCG Reports on Spring Holy Days<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On other UCG related news, I have just received the following from UCG:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Days of Unleavened Bread Holy Day Attendance and  Offerings Reported<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The totals for the attendance and offerings for the  2011 Days of Unleavened Bread season have been tabulated and reported by the  business office. Those figures are as follows:<\/p>\n<p><strong>First Day of Unleavened Bread<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Attendance:\u00a0 8,225<\/p>\n<p>Offering: \u00a0 \u00a0 $544,408.14 *<\/p>\n<div>(* Once all offerings are processed, which were  individually mailed to the home office by those who did not attend a service,  the actual amount should reach approximately $560,000.)<\/div>\n<p><strong>Last Day of Unleavened Bread<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Attendance: 7,553<\/p>\n<p>Offering: $547,662.84 **<\/p>\n<div>(** Once all offerings are processed, which were  individually mailed to the home office by those who did not attend a service,  the actual amount should reach approximately $565,000.)<\/div>\n<p><em>Gerald Seelig<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The attendance is less than last year because of the COGWA split, but it is not as bad as perhaps it could have been.\u00a0 I state this based upon some reports from COGWA, as COGWA seemed like they would have reduced UCG Holy Day attendance more, based upon the numbers of supporters they claimed prior to the Holy Days (COGWA has not published Holy Day attendance figures that I have seen).<\/p>\n<p>As a side point, it should be noted that UCG&#8217;s Holy Day offerings are substantially higher than COGWA&#8217;s for this Spring (for more information, see <a title=\"COGWA and LCG Report on Spring Holy Days\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"\/news\/cog-news\/cogwa-and-lcg-report-on-spring-holy-days\/\">COGWA and LCG Report on Spring Holy Days<\/a>).\u00a0 So while UCG seemed to lose a majority of its USA ministry to COGWA, apparently it has not lost a majority of its income to COGWA.<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/church_governance.htm\">Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government<\/a> What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical?              Which form of governance would one expect to have in the           Philadelphia       remnant? The people decide and\/or committee   forms,         odd dictatorships,  or   the same type that the   Philadelphia era         itself      had?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/unity.htm\">Unity: Which COG for You?<\/a> Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God?       Has it always been this way? What can\/should be done about it?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ucg.htm\">Differences between the           Living Church of God and United Church of God<\/a> This article    provides          quotes information from the two     largest groups which    had their         origins      in WCG as well as     commentary.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/ylcg.htm\">There are Many COGs: Why        Support the Living Church of God?<\/a> This is an article for those  who          wish to more easily sort out     the different COGs. It really   should   be    a          MUST READ    for  current and former WCG\/GCI   members or  any        interested       in     supporting the faithful   church. It also   explains a        lot   of  what   the   COGs   are all   about.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/cogwa.htm\">Concerns about Church of God, a Worldwide Association <\/a> Known as COGWA, this seems to be the largest group that came out of the  United Church of God.  Here is some history and concerns about it.  UCG&#8217;s former president Clyde Kilough and UK CEO Pater Hawkins are part  of it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/work.htm\">Should the Church Still Try          to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did   Herbert          W.     Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work?<\/a> Some  say   the       Church     should mainly feed the flock now as   that is  what   Herbert  W.       Armstrong    reportedly said.  Is that   what he  said?    Is that  what    the    Bible says?   What did <a href=\"\/paul.htm\">Paul<\/a> and <a href=\"\/herbertwarmstrong.htm\">Herbert W. Armstrong<\/a> expect from evangelists?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/laodiceachurch.htm\">The Laodicean  Church Era <\/a>has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/when-will-the-great-tribulation-begin.htm\">Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2011, 2012, or 2013?<\/a> Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great   Tribulation in the \u201cbeginning of sorrows\u201d? What happens in the Great   Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles?   When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the   Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000?<a href=\"\/sdawhite.htm\">Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666<\/a> Who is 666? This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/antichrist.htm\">Some Doctrines of Antichrist<\/a> Are there any doctrines taught outside the Churches of God which can be   considered as doctrines of antichrist? This article suggests at least   three. It also provides information on 666 and the identity of \u201cthe   false prophet\u201d.  Plus it shows that several Catholic writers seem to   warn about an ecumenical antipope that will support heresy.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/europa.htm\">Europa, the Beast, and Revelation<\/a> Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the   Book of Revelation? What about \u201cthe Beast\u201d? Is an emerging European   power \u201cthe daughter of Babylon\u201d? What is ahead for Europe?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/kingdom.htm\">The Gospel of the Kingdom of God was the Emphasis of Jesus and the Early Church<\/a> Did you know that? Do you even know what the gospel of the kingdom is   all about? True religion should be based upon the true gospel.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/millenarianism.htm\">Did The Early Church Teach Millenarianism?<\/a> Was the millennium (sometimes called chiliasm) taught by early   Christians? Who condemned it. Will Jesus literally reign for 1000 years   on the earth? Is this time near?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>UCG&#8217;s Logo for its Beyond Today television program COGwriter In its May edition of United News, Victor Kubik of the United Church of God (UCG) wrote the following (which was posted today at the United News website): Forward! 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