{"id":7615,"date":"2011-06-27T06:07:08","date_gmt":"2011-06-27T14:07:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/?p=7615"},"modified":"2011-06-27T06:07:08","modified_gmt":"2011-06-27T14:07:08","slug":"post-apostolic-leaders-on-images-icons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cogwriter.com\/news\/church-history\/post-apostolic-leaders-on-images-icons\/","title":{"rendered":"Post Apostolic Leaders on Images &#038; Icons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/hoec.gif\" alt=\"History of Early  Christianity\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/cogwriter.htm\">COGwriter <\/a><\/p>\n<p>Did early Christians use images or icons as part of their worship?\u00a0 What did early Church of God leaders teach on this subject?\u00a0 What did early Catholic and Orthodox saints teach about this?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">The <a href=\"\/john.htm\">Apostle John<\/a>, the last of the original apostles to die, and the last writer of the New Testament wrote:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Little children, keep yourselves from idols (I John 5:21). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But I have a  few things against you, because you have there those who hold the  doctrine of Balaam&#8230;to eat things sacrificed to idols (Revelation  2:14). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Nevertheless, I  have a few things against you, because you allow&#8230;My servants to&#8230;eat  things sacrificed to idols (Revelation 2:20). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But the rest of  mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the  works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of  gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor  walk (Revelation 9:20). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But  &#8230;idolaters&#8230;shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire  and brimstone, which is the second death (Revelation 21:8). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But outside are&#8230;idolaters (Revelation 22:15). <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">John warned the church to keep away from idols and that idolaters will be punished.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">After John died, his disciple, <a href=\"\/polycarp.htm\">Polycarp of Smyrna<\/a> became  perhaps the most well-known Church of God leader in the second century. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Even though the  Roman Catholics and Orthodox leaders consider that Polycarp was an  important saint, note  what Polycarp wrote in the mid-second century:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">I exhort you,  therefore, that ye abstain from covetousness, and that ye be chaste and  truthful. &#8220;Abstain from every form of evil.&#8221; For if a man cannot govern  himself in such matters, how shall he enjoin them on others ? If a man  does not keep himself from covetousness, he shall be defiled by  idolatry, and shall be judged as one of the heathen. But who of us are  ignorant of the judgment of the Lord? (Polycarp. Letter to the  Philippians, Chapter XI. From <em>Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1<\/em>as edited by Alexander Roberts &amp; James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885). <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Thus, Polycarp says that those who practice idolatry, even if they profess Christ, will be judged as a heathen! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">In the early-mid second century there was an apologist named Marcianus Aristides who wrote the following to the emperor:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But it is a  marvel, O King, with regard to the Greeks, who surpass all other peoples  in their manner of life and reasoning, how they have gone astray after  dead idols and lifeless images. And yet they see their gods in the hands  of their artificers being sawn out, and planed and docked, and hacked  short, and charred, and ornamented, and being altered by them in every  kind of way. And when they grow old, and are worn away through lapse of  time, and when they are molten and crushed to powder, how, I wonder, did  they not perceive concerning them, that they are not gods? And as for  those who did not find deliverance for themselves, how can they serve  the distress of men? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">But even the  writers and philosophers among them have wrongly alleged that the gods  are such as are made in honour of God Almighty. And they err in seeking  to liken (them) to God whom man has not at any time seen nor can see  unto what He is like. Herein, too (they err) in asserting of deity that  any such thing as deficiency can be present to it; as when they say that  He receives sacrifice and requires burnt-offering and libation and  immolations of men, and temples. But God is not in need, and none of  these things is necessary to Him; and it is clear that men err in these  things they imagine (Marcianus Aristides. TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK AND  FROM THE SYRIAC VERSION BY D. M. KAY. Apology of Aristides the  Philosopher, Chapter XIII.      Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 9.      Edited by Allan Menzies, D.D.      American Edition, 1896 and 1897.      Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2005 by K. Knight).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">It should be  noted that Marcianus Aristides argued against the concept that it was  acceptable to believe that the idols only represented God&#8211;he clearly  teaches that God was not to be worshiped with idols. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"><a href=\"\/melito.htm\">Melito <\/a>also  wrote against idols. Melito was a Church of God leader with the title &#8220;bishop of Sardis&#8221; and is considered to  be a saint by both the Catholics of Rome and the Eastern Orthodox. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Here is what Melito wrote around 170 A.D.:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We are not those who pay homage to stones, that are  without sensation; but of the only God, who is before all and over all,  and, moreover, we are worshippers of His Christ, who is veritably God  the Word <em>existing<\/em> before all time (<span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Melito.  Translation by Roberts and Donaldson. From the apology addressed to  Marcus Aurelius Antoninus. Online version copyright \u00a9 2001 Peter Kirby.  http:\/\/www.earlychristianwritings.com\/text\/melito.html 11\/18\/06). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">For there are  some men who are unable to rise from their mother earth, and therefore  also do they make them gods. from the earth their mother; and they are  condemned by the judgments of truth, forasmuch as they apply the name <em>of Him<\/em> who is unchangeable to those objects which are subject to change, and  shrink not from calling those things gods which have been made by the  hands of man, and dare to make an image of God whom they have not  seen&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Who is this  God? He who is Himself truth, and His word truth. And what is truth?  That which is not fashioned, nor made, nor represented by art: that is,  which has never been brought into existence, and is on that account  called truth. If, therefore, a man worship that which is made with  hands, it is not the truth that he worships, nor yet the word of  truth&#8230;&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">There are,  however, persons who say: It is for the honour of God that we make the  image: in order, that is, that we may worship the God who is concealed  from our view. But they are unaware that God is in every country, and in  every place, and is never absent, and that there is not anything done  and He knoweth it not. Yet thou, despicable man! within whom He is, and  without whom He is, and above whom He is, hast nevertheless gone and  bought thee wood from the carpenter&#8217;s, and it is carved and made into an  image insulting to God. To this thou offerest sacrifice, and knowest  not that the all-seeing eye seeth thee, and that the word of truth  reproves thee, and says to thee: <strong>How can the unseen God be sculptured? Nay, it is the likeness of thyself that thou makest and worshippest<\/strong>.  Because the wood has been sculptured, hast thou not the insight to  perceive that it is still wood, or that the stone is still stone? The  gold also the workman: taketh according to its weight in the balance.  And when thou hast had it made into an image, why dose thou weigh it?  Therefore thou art a lover of gold, and not a lover of God&#8230; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"><strong>Again, there are persons who say: Whatsoever our fathers have bequeathed to us, that we reverence.<\/strong> Therefore, of course, it is, that those whose fathers have bequeathed  them poverty strive to become rich! and those whose fathers did not  instruct them, desire to be instructed, and to learn that which their  fathers knew not! And why, forsooth, do the children of the blind see,  and the children of the lame walk? Nay, it is not well for a man to  follow his predecessors, if they be those whose course was evil; but  rather that we should turn from that path of theirs, lest that which  befell our predecessors should bring disaster upon us also. Wherefore,  inquire whether thy father&#8217;s course was good: and, if so, do thou also  follow in his steps; but, if thy father&#8217;s course was very evil, let  thine be good, and so let it be with thy children after thee. Be grieved  also for thy father because his course is evil, so long as thy grief  may avail to help him. But, as for thy children, speak to them thus:  There is a God, the Father of all, who never came into being, neither  was ever made, and by whose will all things subsist&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">And then shall  those who have not known God, and those who have made them idols, bemoan  themselves, when they shall see those idols of theirs being burnt up,  together with themselves, and nothing shall be found to help them  (Melito. Translation by Roberts and Donaldson. A DISCOURSE WHICH WAS IN  THE PRESENCE OF ANTONINUS CAESAR, AND HE EXHORTED THE SAID CAESAR TO  ACQUAINT HIMSELF WITH GOD, AND SHOWED TO HIM THE WAY OF TRUTH. Online  version copyright \u00a9 2001 Peter Kirby.  http:\/\/www.earlychristianwritings.com\/text\/melito.html 11\/18\/06). <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Notice that  Melito taught against the use of images\/idols\/icons AND then taught NOT  to accept them even if it was handed down by fathers (in other words, do  not rely on traditions that say that idols are correct). Since <a href=\"\/melito.htm\">Melito<\/a> is considered to be both a saint and a &#8216;father&#8217; of the Church by those Roman Catholics and <a href=\"\/orthodox.htm\">Orthodox<\/a>, then they should heed what he said. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">About the same time that Melito was around, Theophilus also apparently was a Church of God leader.\u00a0 <a href=\"\/theophilus.htm\">Theophilus of Antioch<\/a> is not only considered to have been a saint by the Catholics and <a href=\"\/orthodox.htm\">Orthodox<\/a>, he also is in the Orthodox list of successors from the apostles.  Here is a little bit of what he wrote about idols: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">The divine law,  then, not only forbids the worshipping of idols, but also of the  heavenly bodies, the sun, the moon, or the other stars; yea, not heaven,  nor earth, nor the sea, nor fountains, nor rivers, must be worshipped  (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book 2, Chapter XXXV. Translated  by Marcus Dods, A.M. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume II.  Edited by Alexander Roberts &amp; James Donaldson. American Edition,  1885. Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2004 by K. Knight).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">And concerning  piety He says, &#8220;Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not  make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in  heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water  under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve  them: for I am the LORD thy God&#8221; &#8230;Of this divine law, then, Moses, who  also was God&#8217;s servant (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book III,  Chapter IX. Translated by Marcus Dods, A.M. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene  Fathers, Volume 2. Edited by Alexander Roberts &amp; James Donaldson.  American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2004 by K. Knight).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Other second century writers, though they were not in the true Church of God, such as <a href=\"\/justin.htm\">Justin Martyr<\/a>, <a href=\"\/irenaeus.htm\">Irenaeus<\/a>, Athenagoras, and Tertullian also wrote against idols. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Notice that Irenaeus actually wrote that when God was going to call Gentiles, they would no longer have or worship idols<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">And that these  promises the calling from among the Gentiles should inherit, to whom  also the new testament was opened up, Isaiah says thus: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">These things  saith the God of Israel: In that day a man shall trust  in his Maker,  and his eyes shall look to the Holy One of Israel: and they shall not  trust in altars, nor in the work of their own hands, which their fingers  have made. For very plainly this was said of such as have forsaken  idols and believed in God our Maker through the Holy One of Israel. And  the Holy One of Israel is Christ: and He became visible to men, and to  Him we look eagerly and behold Him; and we trust not in altars, nor in  the works of our hands. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">(Irenaeus, St.,  Bishop of Lyon. Translated from the Armenian by  Armitage Robinson. The  Demonstration of the Apostolic Preaching, Chapter 91. Wells, Somerset,  Oct. 1879. As published in SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING CHRISTIAN KNOWLEDGE.  NEW YORK: THE MACMILLAN CO, 1920).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>The Catholic Encyclopedia<\/em> calls Athenagoras a &#8220;Christian apologist of the second half of the second century&#8221;. Here is some of what he wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Because the multitude, who cannot distinguish between matter and  God, or see how great is the interval which lies between them, pray to  idols made of matter, are we therefore, who do distinguish and separate  the uncreated and the created, that which is and that which is not, that  which is apprehended by the understanding and that which is perceived  by the senses, and who give the fitting name to each of them\u2014are we to  come and worship images? If, indeed, matter and God are the same, two  names for one thing, then certainly, in not regarding stocks and stones,  gold and silver, as gods, we are guilty of impiety. But if they are at  the greatest possible remove from one another\u2014 as far asunder as  theartist and the materials of his art\u2014 why are we called to account?  (Athenagoras the Athenian. A Plea  for the Christians, Chapter 15.  Translated by B.P. Pratten. From Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 2. Edited by  Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe. (Buffalo, NY:  Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1885.) Revised and edited for New  Advent by Kevin Knight.  &lt;http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/0205.htm&gt;).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice some of<span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"> what Tertullian wrote:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">The principal  crime of the human race, the highest guilt charged upon the world, the  whole procuring cause of judgment, is idolatry&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">God prohibits  an idol as much to be made as to be worshipped. In so far as the making  what may be worshipped is the prior act, so far is the prohibition to  make (if the worship is unlawful) the prior prohibition. For this  cause&#8211;the eradicating, namely, of the material of idolatry&#8211;the divine  law proclaims, &#8220;Thou shall make no idol;&#8221;&#8230;All things, therefore, does  human error worship, except the Founder of all  Himself. The images of those things are idols; the consecration of the  images is  idolatry. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"> (Tertullian. On Idolatry, Chapters 1,4. Translated by S. Thelwall.      Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 3.      Edited by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson.      American Edition, 1885.     Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2004 by K. Knight). <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Furthermore, there is no evidence tha<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">t  any who professed Christ had idols\/icons, such as what are seen in the  Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches, or even endorsed them in the  second century. Thus, the early church was always against the use of  idols and icons. Actually, they realize this as well as <em>The Catholic Encyclopedia<\/em> notes: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Long before the  outbreak in the eighth century there were isolated cases of persons who  feared the ever-growing cult of images and saw in it danger of a return  to the old idolatry. We need hardly quote in this connection the  invectives of the Apostolic Fathers against idols (Athenagoras &#8220;Legatio  Pro Christ.&#8221;, xv-xvii; Theophilus, &#8220;Ad Autolycum&#8221; II; Minucius Felix,  &#8220;Octavius&#8221;, xxvii; Arnobius, &#8220;Disp. adv. Gentes&#8221;; Tertullian, &#8220;De  Idololatria&#8221;, I; Cyprian, &#8220;De idolorum vanitate&#8221;), in which they  denounce not only the worship but even the manufacture and possession of  such images. These texts all regard idols, that is, images made to be  adored (Fortescue A. Transcribed by Tomas Hancil. Veneration of Images.  The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume VII. Copyright \u00a9 1910 by Robert  Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2003 by K. Knight. Nihil  Obstat, June 1, 1910. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John  Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Furthermore, notice an accusation against those who professed Christ in the second\/third century (date uncertain):<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">Why have they no altars, no temples, no acknowledged images? (Minucius. Octavius. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 4.      Edited by Alexander Roberts &amp; James Donaldson.      American Edition, 1885.      Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2004 by K. Knight). <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\">It should be  noted that no Christian prior to the  late second or early third century  is ever described as carrying an idol, having images in any worship  services, or even wearing a cross. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>3rd &amp; 4th Century Ch<\/strong><strong><\/strong><span style=\"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif;\"><strong>urch Writers<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In the early third century, Catholic theologian and bishop Hippolytus wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>16:1 They will   inquire concerning the works and occupations of those are who are\u00a0     brought   forward for instruction. <strong>2<\/strong> If someone is a pimp who supports   prostitutes, he shall     cease or shall be rejected. <strong>3<\/strong>If   someone is a  sculptor or a painter, let them be taught not to\u00a0   make idols.   Either let them cease or let them be rejected  (Hippolytus. The Apostolic Tradition of Hippolytus of Rome. From the  work of Bernard Botte (La Tradition Apostolique. Sources  Chretiennes,  11 bis. Paris, Editions du Cerf, 1984) and of Gregory Dix (The Treatise  on the  Apostolic Tradition of St. Hippolytus of Rome, Bishop and  Martyr. London: Alban Press, 1992) as translated by Kevin P. Edgecomb  http:\/\/www.bombaxo.com\/hippolytus.html viewed 08\/06\/09)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thus, the production of icons was still condemned in  the third century. If they were accepted, he would have likely written  that they need to change and produce icons and images for churches, but  instead they are told to cease from their occupation.<\/p>\n<p>In the early third century, a Catholic\/Orthodox theologian, Origen wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Christians and Jews have regard to this command, &#8220;You shall fear  the Lord your God, and serve Him alone;&#8221; and this other, &#8220;You shall have  no other gods before Me: you shall not make unto you any graven image,  or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the  earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not  bow down yourself to them, nor serve them;&#8221; and again, &#8220;You shall  worship the Lord your God, and Him only shall you serve.&#8221; It is in  consideration of these and many other such commands, that they not only  avoid temples, altars, and images, but are ready to suffer death when it  is necessary, rather than debase by any such impiety the conception  which they have of the Most High God (Origen. Contra Celsus, Book VII,  Chapter 64, http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/04167.htm 01\/23\/07).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice this defense against the &#8220;heathen&#8221; by the third  century Catholic theologian Arnobius where he clearly teaches that his  faith did not have statues, images, or even incense:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1&#8230;Having shown briefly how impious and infamous <em>are the<\/em> opinions <em>which<\/em> you have formed about your gods, we have now to          speak of their        temples        , their images also, and sacrifices, and of the other things which are        nailed and closely related to them. For you are here in the habit of  fastening upon us a very serious charge of impiety because <strong>we do not rear        temples      for the      ceremonies      of      worship      , do not set up statues and      images         of any god, do not build      altars<\/strong>&#8230;do not offer&#8230;incense&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>3&#8230;we rear no           temples          to them, and do not        worship        their images; we do not        slay        victims in sacrifice, <strong>we do not        offer      incense<\/strong> and libations of        wine.<\/p>\n<p>8&#8230;We have next to say something about statues and images, which you          form          with much skill, and tend with          religious          care,\u2014 wherein if there is any          credibility          , we can by no amount of consideration settle in our own          minds          whether you do this in          earnest          and with a serious purpose, or          amuse          yourselves in childish          dreams          by mocking at these very things.          For if you are assured that the gods          exist          whom you suppose, and that they live in the          highest          regions of          heaven          , what cause, what          reason          , is there that those images should be fashioned by you, when you have true beings to whom you may pour forth prayers, and <em>from whom you may<\/em>,  ask help in trying circumstances? But if, on the contrary, you do not  believe, or, to speak with moderation, are in doubt, in this case, also,  what          reason          is there, pray, to fashion and set up images of          doubtful          <em>beings<\/em>, and to          form               with vain imitation what you do not believe to          exist          ? Do you perchance say, that under these images of          deities          there is displayed to you their presence, as it were, and that, because it has not been given you to see the gods, they are          worshipped          in this fashion,          and the          duties          owed <em>to them<\/em> paid? He who says and asserts this, does not believe that the gods          exist          ; and he is proved not to put faith in his own          religion          , to whom it is          necessary          to see what he may hold, lest that which <em>being<\/em> obscure is not seen, may happen to be vain.<\/p>\n<p>9. We          worship          the gods, you say, by means of images.          What then?          Without          these, do the gods not know that they are          worshipped          , and          will          they not think that any honour is shown to them by you? Through          bypaths          , as it were, then, and by          assignments          to a third party,          as they are called, they receive and accept your services; and  before  those to whom that service is owed experience it, you first  sacrifice to images, and transmit, as it were, some remnants to them at  the pleasure of others.          And what greater wrong, disgrace, hardship, can be inflicted than to acknowledge one god, and <em>yet<\/em> make supplication to something          else        \u2014 to        hope          for help from a          deity          , and pray to an image without feeling?&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>10. And whence, finally, do you know whether all these images which you          form          and put in the place of        the immortal gods reproduce and bear a resemblance to the gods? For it may happen that in        heaven        one has a beard who by you is        represented           with smooth cheeks; that <em>another<\/em> is rather advanced in years to whom you give the appearance of a youth;        that here he is fair, <em>with blue        eyes <\/em>,        who really has grey ones; that he has distended nostrils whom you make and        form        with a high nose. For it is not right to call or name that an image   which does not derive from the face of the original features like it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>14&#8230; Those images which fill you with terror, and which you           adore               prostrate          upon the        ground           in all the        temples, are bones, stones, brass, silver, gold, clay, wood taken from a tree, or        glue        mixed with        gypsum&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>16&#8230;          Blush          , then, even <em>though it is<\/em> late, and accept true methods and  views from dumb creatures, and let these teach you that there is  nothing divine in images, into which they do not fear or scruple to cast  unclean things in obedience to the laws of their being, and led by  their unerring instincts.<\/p>\n<p>17. But you err, <em>says my          opponent <\/em>, and are mistaken, for we do not consider either copper, or  gold and silver, or those other materials of which statues are made, to  be in themselves gods and sacred deities ; but in them we worship and  venerate those whom their dedication as sacred introduces and causes to  dwell in statues made by workmen. The reasoning is not vicious nor  despicable by which any one \u2014 the dull, and also the most intelligent \u2014  can believe that the gods, forsaking their proper seats \u2014 that is,  heaven \u2014 do not shrink back and avoid entering earthly habitations; nay,  more, that impelled by the rite of dedication , they are joined to  images Do your gods, then, dwell in gypsum and in figures of  earthenware? Nay , rather, are the gods the minds , spirits , and souls  of figures of earthenware and of          gypsum          ?  And, that the meanest things may be able to become of greater   importance, do they suffer themselves to be shut up and concealed and   confined in          an obscure abode? Here, then, in the first place, we wish and ask to be told this by you: do they do this against their          will        \u2014 that is, do they enter the images as dwellings, dragged to <em>them<\/em> by the          rite          of          dedication        \u2014 or are they ready and        willing          ? And do you not summon them by any considerations of          necessity          ? Do they do this unwillingly?          and how can it be possible that they should be compelled <em>to            submit <\/em> to any          necessity          without their dignity being impaired? With ready assent?          And what do the gods seek for in figures of earthenware that they should prefer these          prisons               to their starry seats,\u2014 that, having been all but fastened to them, they should          ennoble               earthenware and the other          substances          of which images are made?<\/p>\n<p>(Arnobius. Against the Heathen (Book VI), Chapters  1,3,8,9,10,14,16,17,18. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 6.  Edited by Alexander Roberts &amp; James Donaldson. American Edition,  1886. Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2008 by K. Knight).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hence, even the early Greco-Romans strongly taught  against idols, statues, incense, and icons. These were simply never a  part of the true church. They were not significantly even part of the  Greco-Roman church until after Constantine and his mother Helena  came  on the scene.\u00a0 And they were never adopted by the faithful in the Church of God who held to the earliest teachings and traditions of the apostles.<\/p>\n<p>Do you follow the practices of the early faithful Christians?<\/p>\n<p><em>Some articles to assist in your studies may include:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/idols.htm\">What Did the Early Church Teach About Idols and Icons?<\/a> Did Catholic and Orthodox &#8220;saints&#8221; endorse or condemn idols and icons for Christians?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/roman.htm\">What Do Roman Catholic Scholars Actually Teach About Early Church History?<\/a> Although most believe that the Roman Catholic Church history teaches   an unbroken line of succession of bishops beginning with Peter, with  stories about most of them, Roman Catholic scholars know the truth of  this matter. This eye-opening article is a must-read for any who really  wants to know what Roman Catholic history actually admits  about the  early church.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/Nazarene.htm\">Nazarene Christianity: Were the Original Christians Nazarenes?<\/a> Should Christians be Nazarenes today? What were the practices of the Nazarenes.<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/location.htm\">Location of the Early Church: Another Look at Ephesus, Smyrna, and Rome<\/a> What actually happened to the primitive Church? And did the Bible tell about this in advance?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/apostolicsuccession.htm\">Apostolic Succession<\/a> What really happened? Did structure and beliefs change? Are many of the  widely-held current understandings of this even possible? Did you know  that Catholic scholars really do not believe that   several of the  claimed &#8220;apostolic sees&#8221; of the Orthodox have apostolic    succession&#8211;despite the fact that the current pontiff himself seems to  wish to   ignore this view?  Is there actually a true church that has  ties to any of the   apostles that is not part of the Catholic or  Orthodox churches?  Read this   article if you truly are interested in  the truth on this matter!<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/early-church-history.htm\">Early Church History: Who Were the Two Major Groups Professed Christ in the Second and Third Centuries?<\/a> Did you know that many in the second and third centuries felt that  there were two major, and separate, professing Christian groups in the  second century, but that those in the majority churches tend to now  blend the groups together and claim &#8220;saints&#8221; from both? &#8220;Saints&#8221; that  condemn some of their current beliefs. Who are the two groups?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/catholic.htm\">Which Is Faithful: The Roman Catholic Church or the Living Church of God?<\/a> Do you know that both groups shared a lot of the earliest teachings? Do  you know which church changed? Do you know which group is most faithful  to the teachings of the apostolic church? Which group best represents  true Christianity? This documented article answers those questions. <a href=\"\/catolica-pt.html\">Portugu\u00eas: Qual \u00e9 fiel: A igreja cat\u00f3lica romana ou a igreja viva do deus?<\/a> Tambien <a href=\"\/catolica-es.htm\">Espa\u00f1ol: Cu\u00e1l es fiel: \u00bfLa iglesia cat\u00f3lica romana o La Iglesia del Dios Viviente?<\/a> Auch: <a href=\"\/katholische.htm\">Deutsch: Welches zuverl\u00e4ssig ist: Die R\u00f6misch-katholische Kirche oder die lebende Kirche von Gott?<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"\/orthodox.htm\">Some Similarities and Differences Between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Living Church of God<\/a> Both groups claim to be the original church, but both groups have  differing ways to claim it. Both groups have some amazing similarities  and some major differences. Do you know what they are?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/christianity-mithraism.htm\">Do You Practice Mithraism?<\/a> Many practices and doctrines that mainstream so-called Christian groups  have are the same or similar to those of the sun-god Mithras. Do you  follow Mithraism combined with the Bible or original Christianity?<br \/>\n<a href=\"\/earlychristianity.htm\">The History of Early Christianity<\/a> Are you aware that what most people believe is not what truly happened  to the true Christian church? Do you know where the early church was  based? Do you know what were the doctrines of the early church?  <strong>Is your faith really based upon the truth or compromise?<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>COGwriter Did early Christians use images or icons as part of their worship?\u00a0 What did early Church of God leaders teach on this subject?\u00a0 What did early Catholic and Orthodox saints teach about this? 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