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\nKarl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (photo by Michael Lucan<\/i><\/span><\/span>)
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COGwriter<\/a><\/p>\n

A sent me a link to the following article (originally titled Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg zu Effekten geopolitischer Trends<\/em>.\u00a0 URL: https:\/\/www.asscompact.de\/nachrichten\/karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-zu-effekten-geopolitischer-trends<\/a>) which I machine-translated into English several hours ago:<\/p>\n

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Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg on the effects of geopolitical trends<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/h2>\n

Geopolitics is receiving more and more attention – be it in political decisions, the economy or in society in general.<\/span><\/span> There was a specialist lecture on the topic at the DKM.<\/span><\/span> The speaker was … <\/span><\/span>management consultant and former Minister of Economics and Defense Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg as an expert to give a one-hour lecture.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Crises, crises, crises\u2026<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Zu Guttenberg’s introduction to his talk was somewhat depressing at worst and realistic at best.<\/span><\/span> Given the topic, it will be difficult for him to convey a cheerful mood, as current geopolitical developments rarely bring a \u201csmile on your face\u201d.<\/span><\/span> Wars, refugee flows, the effects of climate change, the increasing threat of terrorism, worrying technological developments or, in short: \u201ccrises, crises, crises\u201d.<\/span><\/span> …<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

And the complex of all these events is a symptom and driving force of a new world order.<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

From bipolarity to multipolarity<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

During Zu Guttenberg’s youth, the world order was bipolar.<\/span><\/span> Two fields of power that confronted and polarized each other.<\/span><\/span> In 1989, 1990, 1991, a sigh of relief went through the world – liberal democracy prevailed.<\/span><\/span> This bipolarity then developed into a new one of its kind, consisting of two new world powers: the world power USA and the growing and gaining global influence China.<\/span><\/span> But this model is no longer entirely up to date either.<\/span><\/span> Now we would be in multipolarity \u2013 a \u201cworld disorder\u201d rather than a world order.<\/span><\/span> New international associations are being formed, such as the BRICS countries, consisting of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

One should not forget that these combinations are extremely strong in view of how large the proportion of the world’s population is that they represent.<\/span><\/span> …<\/span><\/p>\n

What could emerge from these geopolitical trends?<\/span><\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Germany’s dependencies<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

The current events are not a good starting point for Germany, which for Guttenberg is mainly due to the dependencies that the Federal Republic has formed in the past.<\/span><\/span> On the one hand, there is the dependence on energy supplies, which depends more or less on a single country, namely Russia.<\/span><\/span> Secondly, zu Guttenberg mentions the export dependencies that are currently putting Germany at a disadvantage.<\/span><\/span> Many of Germany’s very successful key industries export to China.<\/span><\/span> And last but not least: security dependence on the USA.<\/span><\/span> Because here the USA would have regularly supported Europe.<\/span><\/span> Germany, on the other hand, has failed to raise its own armament to a level with which it can solve its own and European problems without US support.<\/span><\/span> If an emergency arises here and you can no longer count on support from the states, then, says Guttenberg: \u201cGood night\u201d.<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

What can we do?<\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Especially in the second half of the lecture, the leading question for zu Guttenberg was: What can Germany do in the current situation?<\/span><\/span> In order to manage the balancing act between the rather gloomy geopolitical picture and the appeal to work on solutions, the former Federal Minister first emphasized that Germany is still admired in many parts of the world.<\/span><\/span> …<\/span><\/span> According to zu Guttenberg, it will be important in all areas to break away from dependencies such as those mentioned above<\/strong>, to examine alternative strategies and to start working with them.<\/span><\/span> 10\/25\/23
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Note that military dependency on the USA is one of the things that Herr Guttenberg advocated at DKM. DKM is an annual two-day conference in Germany with an approximate total attendance of about 20,000 people.<\/p>\n

Herr Guttenberg resigned as German Defense Minister in 2011 because it was alleged he plagiarized much of his doctrinal dissertation. About three years ago, he finished his doctorate at a different university.<\/p>\n

Many have laughed at him. Some still are in awe of him.<\/p>\n

He is one I have been watching and reporting about since 2009 when I saw him mentioned in an article in the Ottawa Citizen<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Could there be any biblical prophecies that he may fulfill?<\/p>\n

Well, his comment related to breaking dependencies brings to mind the following:<\/p>\n

1 How lonely sits the city
\nThat was full of people!
\nHow like a widow is she,
\nWho was great among the nations!
\nThe princess among the provinces
\nHas become a slave!<\/p>\n

2 She weeps bitterly in the night,
\nHer tears are on her cheeks;
\nAmong all her lovers
\nShe has none to comfort her.
\nAll her friends have dealt treacherously with her;
\nThey have become her enemies.\u00a0 (Lamentations 1:1-2)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I have long asserted the above it a prophecy that the USA will be betrayed by its European friends. And Europe needs its one strong military to do that.<\/p>\n

Consider that the plagiarism problems Karl zu Guttenberg had seem consistent with a prophecy in Daniel 11:21. Here are three translations of that:<\/p>\n

21 And there shall stand up in his place one despised, and the kingly honour shall not be given him: and he shall come privately, and shall obtain the kingdom by fraud. (Daniel 11:21, Douay-Rheims)<\/p>\n

21 \u201c\u2018His place will be taken by a reject, a man spurned and passed over for advancement. He\u2019ll surprise everyone, seemingly coming out of nowhere, and will seize the kingdom. (Daniel 11:21 from THE MESSAGE: The Bible in Contemporary Language \u00a9 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson. All rights reserved.)<\/p>\n

21 And in his place shall stand up a contemptible person, to whom they had not given the honor of the kingdom: but he shall come in time of security, and shall obtain the kingdom by flatteries. (Daniel 11:21, ASV)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Interestingly, Baron Guttenberg was considered to have had a major chance to become Chancellor of Germany before the plagiarism scandal. In that sense, he was \u201ca man spurned and passed over for advancement\u201d as THE MESSAGE version of Daniel 11:21 indicates.<\/p>\n

Notice also the following prophecy of the Great Monarch<\/a><\/span> leader that Roman and Eastern Orthodox writers have longed for:<\/p>\n

Anonymou Paraphrasis <\/em>(10th century): Men thought of him that he is a nobody and useful for nothing. (Tzima Otto. The Great Monarch and WWIII in Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Scriptural Prophecies. Verenika Press, Rock City (SC), 2000, p. 32)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Many wrote Baron Guttenberg off. Some still do.<\/p>\n

But he is not out.<\/p>\n

An Eastern Orthodox prophecy indicates that the Great Monarch will re-enter the political realm:<\/p>\n

Anonymou Paraphrasis <\/em>(10th century):<\/span> And the Guardian Angel will say to him further: come forth from your hiding place, do not hide yourself any longer, many are looking for you [or, are searching for you, are demanding to see you, asking for you]; everybody will exit and only you, alone, will enter. (Tzima Otto, p. 31)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Could this be Baron Guttenberg?<\/p>\n

We will see.<\/p>\n

Notice a Roman Catholic prophecy:<\/p>\n

Venerable Holzhauser<\/em> (died 1658): He will be a Catholic, a descendant of Louis IX, (yet) a descendant of an ancient German family, born in exile. (Culleton, The Prophets and Our Times, p. 171).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Baron claims Roman Catholicism and a descendant of an ancient German family, but he was not really born in exile (although some might interpret the fact that Germany was divided into East and West at the time of his birth as a \u201ctime\u201d of German exile).<\/p>\n

The ancestry of the expected Great Monarch in Greco-Roman Catholic prophecy sometimes supports the Baron, but not always. Here are two that partially seem to:<\/p>\n

Brother Louis Rocco<\/em> (died 1840): A Catholic descendant of a German imperial house (Hapsburg?) will rule a united Germany with peace, prosperity and great power, for God will be with this sovereign (Great Monarch?)\u2026A Great Monarch will arise after a period of terrible wars and persecutions in Europe. He will be a Catholic, he will not be a German (by birth?). (Culleton, The Prophets and Our Times, p. 195).<\/p>\n

Anonymou Paraphrasis<\/em> (10th century): And the name of his Father is divine [or august, i.e. having an \u201cimperial title\u201d]. (Tzima Otto, p. 40)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Note: the parenthetical comments with question marks were inserted in the prediction by the Roman Catholic priest Culleton. His comments (which were written about 70 years ago) would point to someone such as the Baron, who is a descendant of the Habsburg\/Hapsburg line. As far as not being German, perhaps it does not mean \u201cby birth,\u201d but perhaps could be interpreted to mean that he has a mixed heritage (as do most of the Habsburg line). Dr. Tzima Otto put the \u201cimperial title\u201d comment in her quote. And since he too was a baron, the Baron\u2019s father had what could be considered as an imperial title. The Hapsburgs, for a time, ruled over the \u2018Holy Roman Empire.\u2019<\/p>\n

KT Guttenberg is also a Habsburg\/Hapsburg descendant.<\/p>\n

The old Worldwide Church of God (WCG) indicated that the Beast could be Habsburg\/Hapsburg descendant. It also published:<\/p>\n

The House of Habsburg will play a leading role in European affairs for centuries to come. The ideal of universal rule \u2014 unity under a single authority \u2014 is by no means dead. ( Stump KW. THE HISTORY OF EUROPE & THE CHURCH Part Five THE FIRST REICH. Plain Truth, November-December 1983).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

For a time, WCG watched Otto von Habsburg (e.g Hogberg GH. Otto von Habsburg MAN WITH A MISSION. Plain Truth, March 1984; Stump KW. THE HISTORY OF EUROPE & THE CHURCH Part Ten THE FINAL UNION. Plain Truth, June 1984).<\/p>\n

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long pushed for Europe to be dominant in the world including matters of military and digital technology. We made a sermon video about that in the past and put it up on the ContinuingCOG <\/a>channel:<\/p>\n

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Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe\u2019s Future<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

Former German Economic & Technology Minister as well as former Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg spoke at the Hub Conference in Berlin and gave a presentation titled \u201cWish List or Reality? Digital Trends in 2016.\u201d Dr. Thiel shows portions of the presentation and comments on his presentation related to Bible prophecy and Baron Guttenberg\u2019s background. What is the future for Europe?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Here is a link to the sermon: Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe\u2019s Future<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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On October 22, 2015 I posted:<\/p>\n

While he has not yet publicly pressed to get Revelation 13:16-18 implemented, his background and interests show he is one who will likely understand enough technology to do so. (Thiel B. Europe eliminating remaining \u2018bank secrecy\u2019 as it gets closer to Revelation 13:16-18<\/a>. October 22, 2015)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n

On November 20, 2015, he publicly took a step that, in my view, when he pushed for Germany to be a leader in data collection (see article in German, which also acknowledges that he is learning a lot about dealing with the USA: http:\/\/www.spiegel.de\/netzwelt\/web\/karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-arbeitet-jetzt-fuer-start-up-ripple-labs-a-980675.html<\/a>)\u2013here is information in English: Karl Guttenberg sees Germany as a potential leader in \u2018data protection\u2019<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg also has been involved in the digital money, as a consultant to Ripple. We made a sermonette video on our Bible News Prophecy<\/a> YouTube channel about that:<\/p>\n

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Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666 <\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

American Express just announced a deal with Ripple related to using its blockchain technology. No longer confined to Bitcoin, blockchain technology is moving towards the mainstream. Former German Economic and later Defense Minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long been an adviser to Ripple and has plans for internationally-expanding the use of blockchain money. Jim Rickards, Doug Casey, and others have expressed concerns that blockchain money will give governments too much control over buying and selling. Could any of this be related to biblical prophecies in the Books of Daniel and Revelation? Could any of this help fulfill the prophecies related to buying and selling and 666 in Revelation 13? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Here is a link to our video: Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Yes, the Beast power will use some type of AI. Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg was, until last year, president of a firm heavily involved in it.<\/p>\n

Last year, we also put out the following video on our Bible News Prophecy<\/a> YouTube channel related to him:<\/p>\n

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The Middle East, Prophecy, and Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg<\/a><\/h3>\n

Iran and Israel have been involved with various attacks and threats against each other. Does the Bible seem to prophesy that Iran and Syria will attack Israel? Will God always protect Israel? Will Israel\u2019s \u2018Iron Dome\u2019 protect it? Is \u201cgreat damage\u201d prophesied to come to Jerusalem? What about damage to Syria\u2019s capital Damascus? What was Isaiah inspired to write? Could a peace deal come after a regional conflict in the Middle East? Could Baron Karl-Theodor Maria Nikolaus Johann Jacob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg (KT) be the \u201cprince\u201d of Daniel <\/span>9:26-27, who becomes the King of the North of Daniel 11? Was KT spurned, rejected, and passed over for advancement consistent with one rendering of Daniel <\/span>11:21? Does KT have the ancestral and religious background to be the \u201cGreat Monarch\u201d of Greco-Roman Catholic prophecies? Does KT have the digital background to be able to be involved in the 666 controlling of buying and selling (Revelation <\/span>13:16-18)? Should you be watching the Middle East and Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg? Dr. Thiel answers these questions and more.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Here is a link to our video: The Middle East, Prophecy, and Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Getting back to the Bible itself, it warns that a \u201cprince\u201d (Daniel 9:26-27) will become the \u201cKing of the North\u201d (Daniel 11:31-40). So, since the Baron is a Habsburg descendant, he could well be considered as a prince, in a sense (but he is not generally officially considered to be royalty like a prince would be). And perhaps, he will only remain a prince. While he is not ruling over Europe at this time, he is influential there and seems to be taking steps related to European politics. He may well rise much further in time, with just a small number of supporters initially (cf. Daniel 11:23).<\/p>\n

Here are eleven speculative predictions that Baron Guttenberg fulfilled after I posted and\/or wrote about them:<\/p>\n

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  1. He has advocated more European military cooperation.<\/li>\n
  2. He became unpopular for a time (and still is among many).<\/li>\n
  3. He ended up, for a time, outside of political office.<\/li>\n
  4. He went out of the limelight for a while.<\/li>\n
  5. He went into exile (self-imposed).<\/li>\n
  6. His exile was to a humid location.<\/li>\n
  7. People laughed at him.<\/li>\n
  8. He has partially re-emerged in European politics.<\/li>\n
  9. He has called for Germany to consider being a leader in data protection.<\/li>\n
  10. He now has a beard.<\/li>\n
  11. His involvement with Ripple, blockchain, banking, and AI could be setting him up to fulfill Revelation 13:15-18.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Now just because he at least partially fulfilled those does not prove that he must be the final King of the North<\/a>. But they certainly give me reason, combined with biblical and other prophetic sources to consider that he could fulfill that role or at least aid the one who will have it.<\/p>\n

    If Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg becomes involved with a future Middle East peace deal and he establishes some type of new religious \u201cCatholic\u201d order, then it could very well be that he could be the final King of the North. But even if he is not, we are certainly living in times where a powerful leader in Europe will rise up.<\/p>\n

    Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg could simply be a politician, like many others, that has problems.\u00a0And all his intentions could be fine. We will see.\u00a0But Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg does seem, to me at least, to be taking the types of steps that one who could possibly be the final King of the North would actually take.\u00a0And his ability to gain popularity seems consistent with scripture.<\/p>\n

    It is important to remember that there are more than a dozen New Testament admonitions to watch and be alert to the signs of the times in the last days (see Matthew 24:42-44; 25:13; Mark 13:33-37; Luke 21:34-36; Acts 20:31; 1 Thessalonians 5:6, 20).<\/p>\n

    Herr Guttenberg is one to watch as he could be a factor in the rise of the European<\/a> King of the North<\/a> Beast power, even if he is not that individual himself.<\/p>\n

    Some items of possibly related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n

    Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North?<\/a> Is the former German Defense Minister (who is also the former German Minister for Economics and Technology) one to watch? What do Greco-Roman Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest? A video of related interest would be: Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe\u2019s Future<\/a>. A shorter one is also available: The Middle East, Prophecy, and Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg<\/a>.
    \n    Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666<\/a> American Express just announced a deal with Ripple related to using its blockchain technology. No longer confined to Bitcoin, blockchain technology is moving towards the mainstream. Former German Economic and later Defense Minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long been an adviser to Ripple and has plans for internationally-expanding the use of blockchain money. Jim Rickards, Doug Casey, and others have expressed concerns that blockchain money will give governments too much control over buying and selling. Could any of this be related to biblical prophecies in the Books of Daniel and Revelation? Could any of this help fulfill the prophecies related to buying and selling and 666 in Revelation 13? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more in this video. A related written article is also available: Amex launches blockchain-based business payments using Ripple: Prelude to the Beast and 666?<\/a>
    \n    Who is the King of the North?<\/a> Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies for the Great Monarch point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand<\/span>? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States? In the Spanish language check out \u00bfQui\u00e9n es el Rey del Norte?<\/a> Here are links to two related videos: The King of the North is Alive: What to Look Out For<\/a> and The Future King of the North<\/a>.
    \n    The Great Monarch: Biblical and Greco-Roman Catholic Prophecies<\/a><\/span> Is the \u2018Great Monarch\u2019 of Catholic prophecies endorsed or condemned by the Bible? Two sermons of related interest are also available: Great Monarch: Messiah or False Christ?<\/a><\/span> and Great Monarch in 50+ Beast Prophecies<\/a>.
    \n    Europa, the Beast, and the Book of Revelation<\/a> discusses the largest church since the second\/third century, which in a real sense is the eighth church mentioned in the Book of Revelation (it also endorses \u201ceighth day\u201d worship). What church would support the Beast? Here is a link to a video titled: Europe and the \u2018Holy Roman Empire\u2019<\/a>.
    \n    European Technology and the Beast of Revelation<\/a> Will the coming European Beast power would use and develop technology that will result in the taking over of the USA and its Anglo-Saxon allies? Is this possible? What does the Bible teach? Here is a related YouTube video: Military Technology and the Beast of Revelation<\/span><\/a>.
    \n    Could God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End?<\/a> Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? Does God have 7,000 year plan? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2031 or 2025 or? There is also a video titledWhen Does the 6000 Years End? 2031? 2035?<\/a> Here is a link to the article in Spanish: \u00bfTiene Dios un plan de 6,000 a\u00f1os?<\/a>
    \n    Iran in Prophecy<\/a> Is Iran in Bible prophecy? If so, what does the Bible teach? What names, other than Persia, may be used to describe Iran? There is also a related YouTube video titled Iran In Prophecy<\/span><\/a>.
    \n    The ‘Peace Deal’ of Daniel 9:27<\/a> This prophecy could give up to 3 1\/2 years advance notice of the coming Great Tribulation. Will most ignore or misunderstand its fulfillment? Here is a link to a related sermon video Daniel 9:27 and the Start of the Great Tribulation<\/a>. A short video is also available titled Trump\u2019s Deal of the Century and Daniel 9 27?<\/a> Here is a link to something related in the Spanish language: Estados \u00c1rabes emiratos unidos y el tratado de paz en el medio este<\/a>.
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    Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (photo by Michael Lucan) COGwriter A sent me a link to the following article (originally titled Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg zu Effekten geopolitischer Trends.\u00a0 URL: https:\/\/www.asscompact.de\/nachrichten\/karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-zu-effekten-geopolitischer-trends) which I machine-translated into English several hours ago: Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg on the effects of geopolitical trends Geopolitics is receiving more and more attention – be it […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-84536","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-prophecy"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t