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The Vatican announced changes to the papacy as part of its ecumenical plans:<\/p>\n

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The Bishop of Rome: Primacy and Synodality. Summary, ideas and proposals of a new Vatican document<\/h2>\n

On the morning of Thursday, June 13, a new document was presented by the Dicastery for Christian Unity on the role of the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) in view of an eventual unity with all the Christian Churches. The following are the highlights of the document:<\/p>\n

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Origin and status of the document The study document The Bishop of Rome is the first document to summarize the entire ecumenical debate on the service of primacy in the Church since the Second Vatican Council. The origin of this text goes back to St John Paul II\u2019s invitation to other Christians to find, \u2018together, of course\u2019, the forms in which the ministry of the Bishop of Rome \u201cmay accomplish a service of love recognized by all concerned\u201d (UUS 95). Numerous responses to this invitation have been formulated, as well as reflections on the topic and various suggestions from the theological dialogues. In 2020, the 25th anniversary of Ut unum sint, the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity saw an opportunity to synthesize these reflections and gather the main fruits. Pope Francis himself called for this, noting that \u201cwe have made little progress in this regard\u201d (Evangelii Gaudium 32). Moreover, the convocation of the Synod on Synodality has confirmed the relevance of this project as a contribution to the ecumenical dimension of the synodal process. The status of the text is that of a \u2018study document\u2019 that does not claim to exhaust the subject nor summarize the entire Catholic magisterium on the subject. Its purpose is to offer an objective synthesis of the ecumenical discussion on the subject, thus reflecting its insights, but also its limitations. …<\/p>\n

In addition to this synthesis, the document concludes with a brief proposal from the Plenary Assembly of the Dicastery, entitled Towards an Exercise of Primacy in the 21st Century, which identifies the most significant suggestions put forward by the various dialogues for a renewed exercise of the Bishop of Rome\u2019s ministry of unity \u2018recognized by all concerned. Main ideas of the Document The Study Document points out that: 1) the dialogue documents and the responses to Ut unum sint have made a significant contribution to reflection on the question of primacy and synodality; …<\/p>\n

2) all the documents agree on the need for a service of unity at the universal level, even if the foundations of this service and the ways in which should be exercised are subject to different interpretations; 3) unlike the controversies of the past, the question of primacy is no longer seen simply as a problem, but also as an opportunity for a common reflection on the nature of the Church and its mission in the world; 4) the Petrine ministry of the Bishop of Rome is intrinsic to the synodal dynamic, as is the communitarian aspect that includes the entire people of God and the collegial dimension of the episcopal ministry. Among the future steps to be taken in the theological dialogues, the Document suggests the need for: 1) a better connection between the dialogues \u2013 local and international, official and unofficial, bilateral and multilateral, Eastern and Western \u2013 in order to enrich each other; …<\/p>\n

The Orthodox\u2013Catholic dialogue also allowed a new critical reading of the phenomenon of \u2018uniatism\u2019, closely related to the question of primacy and to an ecclesiology claiming the direct jurisdiction of the Roman See over all the local Churches, which \u201ccan no longer be accepted either as a method to be followed nor as a model of the unity our Churches are seeking\u201d (O\u2013C, 1993, 12). The historical phenomenon of \u2018uniatism\u2019 should yet be distinguished from the current reality of the Eastern Catholic Churches, which represent a particular paradigm of \u2018unity in diversity\u2019 due to their sui iuris status in the Catholic Church maintaining their autonomy within synodical structures. Nevertheless, the Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches do not recognise the present relationship with Rome of the Eastern Catholic Churches as a model for future communion. https:\/\/zenit.org\/2024\/06\/12\/the-bishop-of-rome-primacy-and-synodality-summary-ideas-and-proposals-of-a-new-vatican-document\/<\/a><\/p>\n

The Vatican will publish a study document on papal primacy and ecumenism on Thursday that will contain proposals \u201cfor a renewed exercise of the bishop of Rome\u2019s ministry of unity\u201d recognized by all Christians.<\/p>\n

The document, titled \u201cThe Bishop of Rome: Primacy and Synodality in Ecumenical Dialogue and Responses to the Encyclical\u00a0Ut Unum Sint<\/em>,\u201d will be released on June 13 with the approval of Pope Francis.<\/p>\n

The Vatican\u2019s Dicastery for the Promotion of Christian Unity put together the study document to summarize the ecumenical dialogue that has occurred on the question of papal primacy and synodality in the past 30 years.<\/p>\n

In particular, the document includes responses by different Christian communities to Pope John Paul II\u2019s 1995 encyclical on Christian unity,\u00a0Ut Unum Sint<\/em> (\u201cThat They All May Be One\u201d). …<\/p>\n

According to the Holy See Press Office, the document \u201cconcludes with a proposal from the dicastery identifying the most significant suggestions put forward for a renewed exercise of the bishop of Rome\u2019s ministry of unity \u2018recognized by one and all.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n

Ut Unum Sint<\/em><\/a> says that the bishop of Rome as the successor of the Apostle Peter has a \u201cspecific duty\u201d to work for the cause of Christian unity.\u00a0 …<\/p>\n

It notes that the \u201cprimacy of the bishop of Rome has now become a subject of study\u201d in the Church\u2019s dialogue with other Christian communities. …<\/p>\n

The Vatican will hold a press conference featuring Anglican and Armenian representatives to discuss the new papal primacy document on June 13.<\/p>\n

Cardinal Mario Grech, the secretary-general of the General Secretariat of the Synod, will join Cardinal Kurt Koch, the prefect of the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity, in presenting the study document at the press conference. 06\/11\/24 https:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/257959\/vatican-to-publish-new-document-on-papal-primacy<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Cardinal Kurt Koch is one I have been watching for some time as he is a key figure in attempting to get other groups to have closer ecumenical unity with the Church of Rome. Francis, himself, recently reinstated the title ‘Patriarch of the West,’ a title the Pope Benedict XVI dropped (https:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/news\/patriarch-of-the-west-pope-francis-heads-forward-into-the-past<\/a>)–that seemed to be done to suggest he was in a more equal position to the patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox Catholic churches.<\/p>\n

I consider what is happening a “bait and switch.” While there are those at the Vatican sincere about the pope being more “equal” to other leaders, the last pope will assume more authority than many previous ones (cf. Revelation 13:11-17),<\/p>\n

That said, when first heard that this new papacy paper was to be announced, I immediately wondered if part of that was because of the planned 1700 year anniversary of the Council of Nicea next year. The original Council of Nicea was called by the pagan sun-god worshiping Roman Emperor Constantine, who declared himself a lay bishop when it was convened. That Council began on 20 May 325 A.D.<\/p>\n

Last month, the head of the Eastern Orthodox church confirmed that Pope Francis would attend:<\/p>\n

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew announced today that Pope Francis plans to visit Turkey next year to commemorate the anniversary of the First Council of Nicaea. … \u00a0the First Ecumenical Council {was} held in Nicaea, Bithynia, in 325 AD. \u201cHis Holiness Pope Francis wishes for us to jointly celebrate this important anniversary,\u201d stated Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew https:\/\/orthodoxtimes.com\/ecumenical-patriarch-pope-francis-will-visit-patriarchate-for-anniversary-of-first-council-of-nicaea\/<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

There are Greco-Roman Catholic writings that have predicted a schism and additional compromise by the Church of Rome after some council.<\/p>\n

For example, it has been written that a change to the Vatican’s “Constitution” will come about after a council:<\/p>\n

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Venerable Anna Maria Taigi<\/em> (died 1837): The Pope shall convoke a council. A new constitution of the Church shall be proclaimed in it. (Rossi, p. 65)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The new Vatican document on the papacy was the result of a council called a synod. A synod that Pope Francis called for or at least approved. There was also a synod going on at the Vatican this month.<\/p>\n

But perhaps more changes will happen.<\/p>\n

Perhaps at or after the anniversary of the Council of Nicea.<\/p>\n

If that were to happen, when may that happen?<\/p>\n

Consider that the Roman and Eastern Orthodox Catholics consider that 325 A.D. council to have been the “first ecumenical council.”<\/p>\n

The Eastern Orthodox contend that there were seven ecumenical councils and that an eighth one will come.<\/p>\n

The seventh one was the second Council of Nicea of 787.<\/p>\n

Back in 2014, we put together the following video:<\/p>\n

The\u00a0Continuing<\/em>\u00a0Church of God<\/a>\u00a0is pleased to announce our latest video on our\u00a0Bible New Prophecy<\/a>\u00a0YouTube channel:<\/p>\n

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The first ecumenical Council of Nicea was in 325 A.D. The Second Council of Nicea began in 787 A.D. The Roman Catholic Pope Francis and the Eastern Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople have called for a meeting between the Orthodox and the Vatican to take place in the year 2025. What was the result of the earlier councils? Does the Bible support this 2025 meeting? What are some of the dangers?<\/p>\n

Written information on the first Council of Nicea is included in the post\u00a0Ecumenical meeting in Nicea planned for 2025: What happened in 325 and what could happen in\/by 2025?<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Here is a link to our video:\u00a03rd Council of Nicea in 2025?<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

It is clear that there is to be a meeting in 2025. Whether or not it will be the eighth council that the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches will accept is something that we will see.<\/p>\n

The 1700 anniversary of the Council of Nicea will also have ecumenical Protestant involvement. Earlier this year, the World Council of Churches promoted Nicea and called for scholarly papers in preparation for the 2025 event:<\/p>\n

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Recalling Council of Nicaea can inspire call for Christian unity, says world churches head<\/h2>\n

February 16, 2024<\/p>\n

Commemorating the 1,700th anniversary in 2025 of the Council of Nicaea is an inspiration to Christians today to work for the unity of the church, says Rev. Jerry Pillay<\/a>, general secretary of the World Council of Churches.<\/p>\n

The First Council of Nicaea<\/a>, was a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea, now \u0130znik in Turkiye. It was convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine I and it met May to the end of July AD 325.<\/p>\n

At the Council of Nicaea, bishops representing the whole of Christendom gathered for the first time to discuss the faith and witness of the church.<\/p>\n

\u201cRecalling the significance of the Council of Nicaea renews our call for full visible unity, the cornerstone of the ecumenical movement,\u201d Pillay said in a greeting to a Feb. 8 webinar, \u201cFrom Nicaea, Walking Together to Unity: The Beginning of a New Beginning.\u201d \u2026<\/p>\n

The WCC\u2019s activities to commemorate Nicaea in 2025 will culminate in the Sixth World Conference on Faith and Order, to be held near Alexandra, Egypt, in October 2025, Pillay said. https:\/\/www.ecumenicalnews.com\/article\/recalling-council-of-nicaea-can-inspire-call-for-christian-unity-says-world-churches-head\/61068.htm<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

While the original Council of Nicea DID NOT INVOLVE ALL CHRISTENDOM, we see major Protestant involvement related to the 2025 Council here as the World Council of Churches mainly consists of Protestant churches, plus the Eastern Orthodox.<\/p>\n

Regarding the true Christians not attending Constantine’s Nicea Council, the Roman Catholic priest and historian Bellarmino Bagatti wrote the following regarding it:<\/p>\n

The importance of the matters to be discussed and the great division that existed had led Constantine to bring together a big number of bishops, including confessors of the faith, in order to give the impression that the whole of Christendom was represented.<\/p>\n

In fact\u2026the churches of Jewish stock had had no representation\u2026From this we can conclude that no Judaeo-Christian bishop participated in the Council.\u00a0 Either they were not invited or they declined to attend<\/strong>.\u00a0 And so the capitulars had a free hand to establish norms for certain practices without meeting opposition or hearing other view points.\u00a0 Once the road was open future Councils would continue on these lines, thus deepening the breach between the Christians of two-stocks.\u00a0 The point of view of the Judaeo-Christians, devoid of Greek philosophical formation, was that of keeping steadfast to the Testimonia<\/em>, and therefore not to admit any word foreign to the Bible, including Homoousion<\/em> (Bagatti, Bellarmino.\u00a0 Translated by Eugene Hoade.\u00a0 The Church from the Gentiles in Palestine. Nihil obstat: Ignatius Mancini, 1 Februari 1970. Imprimi potest: Herminius Roncari, 26 Februari 1970. Imprimatur: +Albertus Gori, die 28 Februarii 1970.\u00a0 Franciscan Printing Press, Jerusalem, 1971, pp. 47-48).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So, not every church was represented. Those of the true and original Christian faith were not part of the original Council of Nicea. True Christians stuck with the Bible and the original apostolic faith and did not taint it with Greek philosophy or Mithraism.<\/p>\n

That said, now notice an old Roman Catholic prediction:<\/p>\n

Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser<\/em> (Born in the 17th century, in Germany) … God will bind Satan for a number of years until the days of the Son of Perdition … there will be an ecumenical council<\/strong> which will be the greatest of all councils. \u00a0By the grace of God, by the power of the Great Monarch, and by the authority of the Holy Pontiff, and by the union of the most devout princes, atheism and every heresy will be banished from the earth. \u00a0The Council will define the true sense of Holy Scripture , and this will be believed and accepted by everyone.<\/strong> (Dupont, Yves. Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1973, p. 40)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Well, we of the Continuing<\/em> Church of God will not be part of the “accepted by everyone” group–but a lot of the Greco-Roman Catholics and Protestants would seem to be those who would accept such a council.<\/p>\n

The third Council of Nicea might be considered to be the eighth ecumenical council by the Eastern Orthodox. As it turns out, one of their saints put forth the following prediction:<\/p>\n

Saint Nelios the Myrrh-Gusher<\/em>\u00a0(died 1592): During that time the Eighth and last Ecumenical Synod will take place, which will satisfy the contentions of the heretics<\/strong> … (Tzima Otto H. The Great Monarch and WWIII in Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Scriptural Prophecies. Verenika Press, Rock City (SC), 2000, p. 111)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

By satisfying \u201cheretics\u201d, clearly this council compromises and changes the religion, which will be called \u201cCatholic\u201d.<\/p>\n

Yet, some Eastern Orthodox look forward to this, but also expect an antipope near then:<\/p>\n

Helen Tzima Otto<\/em>\u00a0(20th<\/sup> century): We have been told time and time again through the prophets that the Great Monarch and Papa Angelorum \u2026 will convene the 8th<\/sup> Ecumenical Council, which will reunify all Christians \u2026 The Emperor will spend three years waging wars against the non-Christian nations \u2026 {later will be} the end time schism of the Roman Catholic Church of the End Times and the rise of an antipope (Tzima Otto, pp. xxv, 103, 122).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Such unity will be dangerous for both the Church of Rome and the Eastern Orthodox. Signs and lying wonders would be a deceptive factor in this occurrence. The Bible teaches that the Antichrist will support the Beast (called the “lawless one below”with such deception:<\/p>\n

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:9).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Notice that one Orthodox writer worries that strong ecumenical unity may come about because of apparitions claiming to be Mary<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Peter Jackson<\/em>\u00a0(20th<\/sup> century): To which Mary\u00a0are Muslims and Protestants\u00a0being drawn?\u2026 Rome\u00a0began to see her more and more as a \u201cgoddess,\u201d a fourth Hypostasis of the Trinity\u2026Today, as heterodox Christians become more and more ecumenist and work toward creating a \u201cOne World Church,\u201d the search has begun for a Mary of universal recognition, one who will appeal not only to those who bear the name Christian, but apparently to Muslims and others as well, just as attempts are likewise being made to identify the \u201cnew Christ\u201d with the Muslim concept of their coming Mahdi\u00a0and with the Messiah still awaited by the Jews. This, of course, will be no Christ at all but the antichrist (Jackson P. ORTHODOX LIFE., No. I, 1997., Brotherhood of Saint Job of Pochaev at Holy Trinity Monastery, Jordanville, N.Y. pp. 18-22).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Since the Bishop of Rome already has stated that the Vatican will compromise doctrinally in order to get the Orthodox to join (as I was told privately when I was at the office of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople back in May 2008), the Eastern Orthodox are justifiably concerned that such unity will take place.\u00a0 Furthermore, Roman Catholics are right to be concerned that since the Vatican has already stated that it will compromise for the sake of unity with the Eastern Orthodox, that compromise will occur in Rome for such unity.<\/p>\n

Notice what two Roman Catholic priests wrote:<\/p>\n

Priest O\u2019Connor<\/em>\u00a0(20th<\/sup>\u00a0century?):\u00a0This final false prophet<\/strong> will be a bishop of the church and will lead all religions into becoming one <\/strong>…<\/p>\n

Priest Paul Kramer<\/em>\u00a0<\/em>(21st<\/sup>\u00a0century):<\/em>\u00a0<\/em>The errors of Orthodoxy and of Protestantism will be embraced by that false church, it will be an ecumenical church because the Anti-Pope will be recognized by the world\u2014not by the faithful, but by the world\u2014by the secular world and the secular governments\u2026<\/p>\n

The Anti-Pope will be recognized as the legitimate Pope of the \u201cchurch,\u201d and the legitimate head of the Vatican\u00a0State. That \u201cchurch\u201d will be united with all the false religions. They will be united together under the universality of the Masonic umbrella. In that motley ecumenical union will be the established religion of the so-called civilized world. This is how we will get into the time of great persecution\u00a0such as the world has never seen (2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect<\/a>, pp. 171, 173).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Notice that both Roman and Eastern Orthodox sources are concerned that such unity will result in the rise of the final Antichrist.<\/p>\n

The idea of an antipope being the Antichrist seems also to have pontifical backing:<\/p>\n

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Gregory VII’s rhetoric…his naming the “antipope” Guibert as “Antichrist and Arch-heretic”…(Hughes KL. Constructing antichrist: Paul, biblical commentary, and the development of doctrine in the early Middle Ages. CUA Press, 2005, p. 206)<\/p>\n

Bishop of Lucca, under the title of Alexander II…was the first pontiff chosen by the cardinals, and they chose him without consulting the Emperor…German and Lombard prelates held a council at Berne and elected as Pope Cadalous, Bishop of Parma, under the name of Honorius II.; and for three years there was a scandalous contest between the two claimants, each calling the other antipope and Antichrist in the usual fashion. (Church WC. The Galaxy, Volume 14. Publisher W.C. and F.P. Church, 1872. Original from the University of Michigan, Digitized Nov 11, 2008, p. 491)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The “usual fashion” is meant to convey that in the Middle Ages it was not uncommon for a pope (and not just one of them) to suggest that an antipope is Antichrist. The term ‘antipope’ is specifically believed, of itself, to convey the concept of being an antichrist by Roman Catholics. Thus, the idea of an antipope being the final Antichrist seems consistent with certain papal pronouncements.<\/p>\n

Here is a pronouncement from Pope “Gregory the Great” suggesting something similar:<\/p>\n

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St. Gregory says, “I confidently say that whoever doth call himself universal bishop, or desireth to be so called, doth, in his elation, forerun Antichrist, because he proudly doth set himself before the rest.”<\/p>\n

We cannot but ask, What would Pope Gregory the Great have said to the titles now assumed by his successors, such as “the vicegerent of God,” “the vicar of Christ on earth,” whose “teachings should be received as if they were His own,” and whom the whole episcopate must be “subject to” on pain of being considered “a lawless and disorderly crowd”? (As in AN OPEN LETTER TO HIS HOLINESS LEO XIII. Cited in McKim RH.Romanism in the light of history. G. P. Putnam’s Sons, 1914, p. 54).<\/p>\n

St. Gregory…”I do confidently say that whosoever called himself universal Bishop<\/em>; <\/em>or is desirous to be called so, in his pride, is the Forerunner of Anti-christ; because, in his pride, he prefers himself to the rest. And he is conducted to error, by a similar pride; for as the wicked One wishes to appear a god above all men; so whosoever he is, who desires to be called the only <\/em>Bishop <\/em>(solus sacerdos,) extols himself above all other Bishops.” Tom. ii. Regist. Epist. In. 15. Epist. 33. edit, of Paris, 1705. (Brownlee WC. Letters in the Roman Catholic controversy<\/span>, 2nd edition. LETTER VIII. TO DRS. POWER AND VARELA, AND MR. LEVINS. Published by the author, 1834, p. 95)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Thus, Gregory seems to be warning that if there ever is a “universal Bishop” that one with this title may become the final Antichrist.<\/p>\n

Additionally, some Roman Catholic writers clearly have understood that the two-horned beast in Revelation 13 is likely to be an antipope and that a negative power will be established in Jerusalem:<\/p>\n

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Priest E. Sylvester Berry<\/em> (published 1920):\u00a0 The two horns denote a twofold authority \u2013 spiritual and temporal. \u00a0As indicated by the resemblance to a lamb, the prophet will probably set himself up in Rome as a sort of anti-pope\u2026Antichrist will establish himself in Jerusalem\u2026with his \u2018lying wonders\u2019… (Berry ES.\u00a0 The Apocalypse of St. John, 1920.\u00a0 Quoted in Culleton RG.\u00a0 The Reign of Antichrist.\u00a0 Reprint 1974, TAN Books, Rockford (IL), pp. 199-200).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Much of the above teaching is consistent with certain scriptures. And although most in the Protestant world that watch prophecy, as well as perhaps most in the Catholic world, have confused who the Antichrist is (many modern Protestants think he is the Beast), various Greco-Roman Catholic sources have correctly declared that the False Prophet is (or likely is) the final Antichrist. This was also the position of the Greco-Roman Catholic saint Augustine (Augustine. City of God, Book XX, Chapter 14. Translated by Marcus Dods.<\/span> From Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, First Series<\/span>, Vol. 2.<\/span> Edited by Philip Schaff.<\/span> Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Publishing Co.,<\/span> 1887;\u00a0 <\/span>Culleton, The Reign of Antichrist, p. 117).<\/p>\n

Notice the following Roman Catholic translation of part of the Apocalypse:<\/p>\n

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3 He took me in spirit<\/a> to a desert, and there I saw a woman<\/a> riding a scarlet beast which had seven heads and ten horns and had blasphemous titles written all over it.<\/p>\n

4 The woman<\/a> was dressed in purple and scarlet and glittered with gold and jewels and pearls, and she was holding a gold winecup filled with the disgusting filth of her prostitution;<\/p>\n

5 on her forehead was written a name, a cryptic name: ‘Babylon the Great, the mother of all the prostitutes and all the filthy practices on the earth.’ …<\/p>\n

9 ‘This calls for shrewdness. The seven heads are the seven hills, on which the woman<\/a> is sitting.<\/p>\n

15 The angel<\/a> continued, ‘The waters you saw, beside which the prostitute was sitting, are all the peoples, the populations, the nations and the languages.<\/p>\n

16 But the ten horns and the beast will<\/a> turn against the prostitute, and tear off her clothes and leave her stark naked; then they will<\/a> eat her flesh and burn the remains in the fire.<\/p>\n

17 In fact, God<\/a> has influenced their minds to do what he intends, to agree together to put their royal powers at the beast’s disposal until the time<\/a> when God’s words shall be fulfilled.<\/p>\n

18 The woman<\/a> you saw is the great city which has authority over all the rulers on earth.’ (Revelation 17:3-5,9,15-18)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

According to Roman\u00a0 Catholic scholars, the seven hills are a reference to Rome.<\/p>\n

An antipope will support the destruction of the Church of Rome.<\/p>\n

Matt Gaspers brought up the threat of a “formal schism.” Here are some ancient and more recent writings by Roman Catholic clergy and others expecting this:<\/p>\n

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G. Rossi <\/em>(1873): It is not unlikely, but, on the contrary, a well-founded rumor warns us, that an attempt will be made at the first opportunity to thrust upon St. Peter\u2019s throne an anti-pope, in order to create a schism in the Church Catholic. They have adopted the maxim: Division is weakness. Divide et impera<\/em>. Divide to crush. (Rossi, G. THE CHRISTIAN TRUMPET, OR, Previsions and Predictions about Impending General Calamities, The Universal Triumph of the Church, The Coming of Antichrist, The Last Judgment, and The End of the World. Compiled by PELLEGRINO [Gaudentius Rossi], A Missionary Priest with Superior’s permission. Boston, THOS. B. NOONAND & CO., 1873, p.97)<\/p>\n

Pope Gregory the Great<\/em> (died 604): In those days, near the end, hardly a Bishop, but an army of priests and two-thirds of the Christians will join the Schism. (Culleton, R. Gerald. The Reign of Antichrist, Reprint TAN Books, Rockford, IL, 1974, p. 122)<\/p>\n

St. Hildegard<\/em> (d. 1179): …this cardinal will proclaim himself Anti-Pope, and two thirds of the Christians will go with him. He, also well as Antichrist, are descendants of Dan (Culleton, R. Gerald. The Reign of Antichrist, p. 128).<\/p>\n

Oba Prophecy<\/em>: It will come when the Church authorities issue directives to support a new cult, when priests are forbidden to celebrate in any other, when the highest positions in the Church are given to perjurers and hypocrites, when only the renegades are admitted to occupy those positions (Dupont, p. 115).<\/p>\n

Anna-Katarina Emmerick<\/em> (19th century): I saw again a new and odd-looking Church which they were trying to build. There was nothing holy about it…(Dupont, p. 116).<\/p>\n

St. Francis of Assisi<\/em>\u00a0(died 1226): There will be an uncanonically elected pope who will cause a great Schism, there will be divers thoughts preached which will cause many, even those in the different orders to doubt, yea even agree with the heretics, which will cause my Order to divide. (Culleton, R. Gerald. The Reign of Antichrist, p. 130)<\/p>\n

Ted and Maureen Flynn <\/em>(readers and reporters Catholic prophecies): Catholic prophecy warns us of severe problems facing the papacy in these end times\u2026chaos will be within our midst.\u00a0 An Antipope will seize papal authority\u2026It will be those who hold fast to the truths of the faith who will be labeled as the perpetrators of this horrible schism, according to some visionaries (Flynn Ted and Maureen. The Thunder of Justice. MaxKol Communications, Inc. Sterling (VA), 1993, p. 255).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

As far as who Roman Catholics think will be involved in causing this schism, consider the following that mentions secret societies and a particular false religion that would seem to specifically apply to those in the true Church of God:<\/p>\n

JANE LE ROYER (d. 1798)
\nSISTER MARY OF THE NATIVITY<\/p>\n

“Many precursors, false prophets, and members of infernal secret societies, worshippers of Satan, shall impugn the most sacred dogmas and doctrines of our holy religion, shall persecute the faithful, shall commit abominable actions; but THE REAL AND EXTREME ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION SHALL MORE FULLY BE ACCOMPLISHED DURING THE REIGN OF ANTICHRIST, which will last about three years and a half. …<\/p>\n

“When the time of the reign of Antichrist is near, a false religion will appear which be opposed to the unity of God and His Church<\/strong>. This will cause the greatest schism the world has ever known. The nearer the time of the end, the more darkness of Satan will spread on Earth, the greater will be the number of children of corruption, and the number of Just will correspondingly diminish. (Culligan, E. The Last World War and the End of Time. The book was blessed by Pope Paul VI, 1966. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), pp.127,128)<\/p>\n

Anna-Katarina Emmerick… <\/em>“Once more I saw that the Church of Peter was undermined by a plan evolved by the secret sect<\/strong>, while storms were damaging it. But I saw also that help was coming when distress had reached its peak. I saw again the Blessed Virgin ascend on the Church and spread her mantle [over it]. I saw a Pope who was at once gentle, and very firm…I saw a great renewal, and the Church rose high in the sky.” … Sept. 12, 1820.<\/em> “I saw a strange church being built against every rule … No angels were supervising the building operations. In that church, nothing came from high above … There was only division and chaos. … August to October 1820.<\/em> … I saw the secret sect relentlessly undermining the great Church<\/strong>. … October 22, 1822. <\/em>“Very bad times will come when non-Catholics will lead many people astray. (Dupont, pp. 60-62, 71)<\/p>\n

Anne Catherine Emmerich<\/em>: May 13, 1820…I saw again the present Pope and the dark church of his time in Rome. It seemed to be a large, old house like a town-hall with columns in front. I saw no altar in it, but only benches, and in the middle of it something like a pulpit. They had preaching and singing, but nothing else, and only very few attended it…The whole church was draped in black, and all that took place in it was shrouded in gloom…I saw the fatal consequences of this counterfeit church ; I saw it increase ; I saw heretics of all kinds flocking to the city. I saw the ever-increasing trepidity of the clergy , the circle of darkness ever widening…Again I saw in vision St. Peter’s undermined according to a plan devised by the secret sect<\/strong> whilst, at the same time, it was damaged by storms; but it was delivered at the moment of greatest distress<\/strong>. (Emmerich AC. The Life and Revelations of Anne Catherine Emmerich. Schm\u00f6ger edition, Vol. II. Approbation: Bishop of Limbourg Peter Joseph. Reprint TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1976, pp. 277,279-281).<\/p>\n

Elizabeth Canori-Mora<\/em> (died 1825): “All men shall rise one against the other, and they shall kill one another without pity. During this sanguinary conflict the avenging arm of God will strike the wicked, and in His mighty power He will punish their pride and presumption. God will employ the powers of {Hades}<\/em> for the extermination of these impious and heretical persons who desire to overthrow the Church and destroy it to its very foundation<\/strong>. These presumptuous men in their mad impiety believe that they can overthrow God from His throne; but the Lord will despise these artifices, and through an effect of His Mighty Hand He will punish these impious blasphemers by giving permission to the infernal spirits to come out from Haydes. Innumerable legions of demons shall overrun the earth, and shall execute the orders of Divine Justice by causing terrible calamities and disaster; they shall attack everything; they shall devastate property and alimentary productions, cities and villages. Nothing on earth shall be spared. God will allow the demons to strike with death those impious men because they gave themselves up to the infernal powers and had formed with them a compact against the Catholic Church. (Connor, pp.22-23)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Now Jane Le Royer suggests that secret societies will impugn the most sacred dogmas and doctrines of the Roman Catholic religion, and before Jesus (who they sometimes seem to identify as the Antichrist, see Do Certain Catholic Prophecies About Antichrist Warn Against Jesus?<\/a>) comes, a false religion will “appear” that is “opposed to the unity of God and His Church.” Note also that Elizabeth Canori-Mora asserted that persecution would come to such people.<\/p>\n

What kind of group claiming Christianity denies the “unity of God”? Well, none. But the one that comes to mind would be one that denies the 381 A.D. definition of the unity of God that Emperor Theodosius insisted on.<\/p>\n

In many Roman Catholic writings, it is the doctrine of the trinity that they adopted in 381<\/a> that is linked with the unity of God (e.g. Lebreton, Jules.<\/span> “The Logos.”<\/span> The Catholic Encyclopedia.<\/span> Vol. 9.<\/span> Nihil Obstat.<\/em> October 1, 1910. Remy Lafort, Censor.<\/span> Imprimatur.<\/em> +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York.<\/span> New York: Robert Appleton Company,<\/span> 1910; <\/span><\/span>Joyce, George.<\/span> “The Blessed Trinity.”<\/span> The Catholic Encyclopedia.<\/span> Vol. 15.<\/span> Nihil Obstat.<\/em> October 1, 1912. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor.<\/span> Imprimatur.<\/em> +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York.<\/span> New York: Robert Appleton Company,<\/span> 1912;\u00a0<\/span>Aquinas T. The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas Second and Revised Edition, 1920 Literally translated by Fathers of the English Dominican Province Online Edition Copyright \u00a9 2008 by Kevin Knight Nihil Obstat. F. Innocentius Apap, O.P., S.T.M., Censor. Theol. Imprimatur. Edus. Canonicus Surmont, Vicarius Generalis. Westmonasterii. APPROBATIO ORDINIS Nihil Obstat. F. Raphael Moss, O.P., S.T.L. and F. Leo Moore, O.P., S.T.L. Imprimatur. F. Beda Jarrett, O.P., S.T.L., A.M., Prior Provincialis Angli\u00e6; Fourth Council of Lateran (1215), in Denzinger-Bannwart, “Enchiridion”, 428; Aiken, Charles Francis.<\/span> “Monotheism.”<\/span> The Catholic Encyclopedia.<\/span> Vol. 10.<\/span> Nihil Obstat.<\/em> October 1, 1911. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor.<\/span> Imprimatur.<\/em> +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York.<\/span> New York: Robert Appleton Company,<\/span> 1911; <\/span>Msgr. Charles M. Mangan, he currently works in Rome as a member of the Vatican’s Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and for Societies of Apostolic Life.<\/em> United in the Trinity. Sunday Homilies Feed Your Sou. Catholics United For the Faith, Sunday, May 18, 2008. http:\/\/www.cuf.org\/homilies\/archive\/051808.asp viewed 02\/10\/09)<\/p>\n

Of course, we in the true Church of God have long opposed the trinity<\/a> of Theodosius’ Council of Constantinople. Hence the “false religion” of Jane Le Royer can only be referring to a groups like the Continuing<\/em> Church of God (it should be noted that the CCOG does believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and holds a view of the Godhead more akin to that held by the Roman Bishop Liberius in the mid-4th century than to the Theodosius’ Council). And recall that we, according to Nun Jeanne le Royer, “appear” just before Antichrist.<\/p>\n

Notice also:<\/p>\n

Nursing Nun of Bellay <\/em>(died 1820): “All these things shall come to pass once the wicked have succeeded in circulating large numbers of bad books.” (Dupont, p.51)<\/p>\n

Trappistine Nun of Notre Dame des Gardes<\/em>. “Chastisement will come when a very large number of bad books have been spread” (Dupont, p 114).<\/p>\n

Abbe Voclin<\/em>. “… Horrible books will be freely available. Intellectuals will argue fiercely among themselves. Then war will break out that will see the rise of the Great Monarch” (Dupont, p. 114).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

While we in the Continuing<\/em> Church of God are not the only ones who can write books that some Roman Catholics disapprove of as a false religion, as it gets closer to the end, I believe that our writings will be perceived as a serious threat to the changing Roman Catholic Church as we claim ties to the original apostles and have kept the faith of the original Christians without change. And our CCOG books are freely available, including
\nBeliefs of the Original Catholic Church: Could a remnant group have continuing apostolic succession?<\/a> which documents our faithfulness over that of the Greco-Roman Catholic churches.<\/p>\n

Furthermore, notice that the Roman Catholic saint Hildegard of Bingen wrote:<\/p>\n

And fly from those who linger in caves and are cloistered supporters of the Devil. Woe to them, woe to them who remain thus! They are the Devil’s very viscera, and the advance guard of the son of perdition.<\/p>\n

Therefore, O you My beloved children, avoid them with all devotion and with all the strength of your souls and bodies. For the ancient serpent feeds and clothes them by his arts, and they worship him as God and trust in his false deceptions. They are wicked murderers, killing those who join them in simplicity before they can turn back from their error; and they are wicked fornicators upon themselves, destroying their semen in an act of murder and offering it to the Devil. And they also invade My Church with their schisms in the fulness of vice; in their shameful plots they wickedly scoff at baptism, and the sacrament of My Son’s body and blood, and the other institutions of the Church. … they pretend to have sanctity; but they are deceived by the Devil …<\/p>\n

And thus for certain the punishment of all the schisms shall fall upon you: (Hildegard of Bingen. Scivias. Paulist Press, Mahwah (NJ), pp. 301-302).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The above has long been interesting to me as it could be that Hildegard is warning end time Greco-Roman Catholics not to listen to people who look like Christians (as they appear to “have sanctity”) while they are protected in caves and are miraculously fed. That sounds a lot like those Philadelphians that God will protect in the wilderness (cf. Revelation 12:14-16; see also There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Near Petra<\/a>).<\/p>\n

There are many biblical and non-biblical writings that seem to warn against a coming unity, that seem to be being pushed by Pope Francis.<\/p>\n

Such unity appears to be coming within a relatively few years and would seem to be prophesied to affect the whole world\u2013and not in a positive way.<\/p>\n

2025 could very well represent an important step in that direction.<\/p>\n

And it will lead to persecution to those of true saints (Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:6-7), those in the Church of God (e.g. 2 Corinthians 1:1).<\/p>\n

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Vatican’s ‘Bait & Switch’?<\/a><\/h3>\n

On June 13, 2024, the Vatican released “a new document was presented by the Dicastery for Christian Unity on the role of the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) in view of an eventual unity with all the Christian Churches.” This is something that certain ecumenical ones, including Pope Francis and Cardinal Kurt Koch (the prefect of the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity) have been working on. This document is intended to reduce the relative importance of the Patriarch of Rome, compared to leaders of other faiths (and we believe many are sincere about that) to increase unity among the world’s churches. The 1700 year anniversary of Emperor Constantine’s Council of Nicea is set for 20 May 2025. This is something that the Eastern Orthodox, Vatican, various Protestants, and the World Council of Churches endorse, but not the Church of God as ‘Judeao-Christians’ also did not attend the 325 A.D. council. Some Greco-Roman prophecies are looking for a council that will result in unity and satisfy the heretics, whereas others warn against it as well as the rise of an antipope, who looks to be the final Antichrist of the Bible. Biblically, the 13 June change to the pope’s role looks like it will be a type of “bait and switch” as the False Prophet, the two-horned beast of Revelation <\/span>13:11<\/span>-17 will still rise up. Might signs and lying wonders be used for worldly unity? According to an Eastern Orthodox writer, might false Marian matters be involved for that type of unification? Is there a church against the “unity of God” that Emperor Theodosius had adopted in 381 A.D.? Who could be the “secret sect” some think arises in the end times? Dr. Thiel and Steve Dupuie discuss these matters.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Here is a link to our video: Vatican’s ‘Bait & Switch’?<\/a><\/p>\n

Some items of related interest may include:<\/em><\/p>\n

Beliefs of the Original Catholic Church: Could a remnant group have continuing apostolic succession?<\/a> Did the original \u201ccatholic church\u201d have doctrines held by the Continuing<\/em> Church of God? Did Church of God leaders uses the term \u201ccatholic church\u201d to ever describe the church they were part of? Here are links to related sermons: Original Catholic Church of God?<\/a>, Original Catholic Doctrine: Creed, Liturgy, Baptism, Passover<\/a>, What Type of Catholic was Polycarp of Smyrna?<\/a>, Tradition, Holy Days, Salvation, Dress, & Celibacy<\/a>, Early Heresies and Heretics<\/a>, Doctrines: 3 Days, Abortion, Ecumenism, Meats<\/a>, Tithes, Crosses, Destiny, and more<\/a>, Saturday or Sunday?<\/a>, The Godhead<\/a>, Apostolic Laying on of Hands Succession<\/a>, Church in the Wilderness Apostolic Succession List<\/a>, Holy Mother Church and Heresies<\/a>, and\u00a0Lying Wonders and Original Beliefs<\/a>. Here is a link to that book in the Spanish language:\u00a0Creencias de la iglesia Cat\u00f3lica original<\/a>.
\nThe Great Monarch: Biblical and Greco-Roman Catholic Prophecies<\/a><\/span> Is the ‘Great Monarch’ of Greco-Roman Catholic prophecies endorsed or condemned by the Bible? Two sermons of related interest are also available: Great Monarch: Messiah or False Christ?<\/a><\/span> and Great Monarch in 50+ Beast Prophecies<\/a>.
\nBeware: Protestants Going Towards Ecumenical Destruction!<\/a> What is going on in the Protestant world? Are Protestants turning back to their \u2018mother church\u2019 in Rome? Does the Bible warn about this? What are Catholic plans and prophecies related to this? Is Protestantism doomed? See also World Council of Churches Peace Plan<\/a>.
\nHope of Salvation: How the Continuing<\/em> Church of God Differs from Protestantism<\/a> The CCOG is NOT Protestant. This free online book explains how the real <\/em>Church of God differs from mainstream\/traditional Protestants. Several sermons related to the free book are also available: Protestant, Baptist, and CCOG History<\/a>; The First Protestant, God\u2019s Command, Grace, & Character<\/a>; The New Testament, Martin Luther, and the Canon<\/a>; Eucharist, Passover, and Easter<\/a>; Views of Jews, Lost Tribes, Warfare, & Baptism<\/a>; Scripture vs. Tradition, Sabbath vs. Sunday<\/a>; Church Services, Sunday, Heaven, and God\u2019s Plan<\/a>; Seventh Day Baptists\/Adventists\/Messianics: Protestant or COG?<\/a>; Millennial Kingdom of God and God\u2019s Plan of Salvation<\/a>; Crosses, Trees, Tithes, and Unclean Meats<\/a>; The Godhead and the Trinity<\/a>; Fleeing or Rapture?<\/a>; and Ecumenism, Rome, and CCOG Differences<\/a>.
\nWill the Interfaith Movement Lead to Peace or Sudden Destruction?<\/a> Is the interfaith movement going to lead to lasting peace or is it warned against? A video sermon of related interest is: Will the Interfaith Movement lead to World War III?<\/a> and a video sermon is also available: Do You Know That Babylon is Forming?<\/a>
\nWhy Should American Roman Catholics Fear Unity with the Orthodox?<\/a> Are the current ecumenical meetings a good thing or will they result in disaster? Is doctrinal compromise good? Here is a link to a related video Should you be concerned about the ecumenical movement? <\/a>
\nOrthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics<\/a> Unity between these groups will put them in position to be part of the final end time Babylon that the Bible warns against as well as require improper compromise.
\nSome Similarities and Differences Between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Continuing<\/em> Church of God<\/a> Both groups claim to be the original church, but both groups have differing ways to claim it. Both groups have some amazing similarities and some major differences. Do you know what they are? Here is a link to a related sermon: Eastern Orthodox 40+ Similar Beliefs to the CCOG<\/a>.
\nPersecutions by Church and State<\/a> This article documents some that have occurred against those associated with the COGs and some prophesied to occur. Will those with the cross be the persecutors or the persecuted\u2013this article has the shocking answer. There are also three video sermons you can watch: Cancel Culture and Christian Persecution<\/a>, The Coming Persecution of the Church<\/a>, and Christian Persecution from the Beast<\/a>. Here is information in the Spanish language: Persecuciones de la Iglesia y el Estado<\/a>.
\nProphecies Showing Persecution of Sabbath Keepers<\/a> Are Sabbath-keepers going to be persecuted in the 21st century? Are there biblical and non-biblical prophecies that point to this type of persecution?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Vatican City (photo by Joyce Thiel) COGwriter The Vatican announced changes to the papacy as part of its ecumenical plans: The Bishop of Rome: Primacy and Synodality. Summary, ideas and proposals of a new Vatican document On the morning of Thursday, June 13, a new document was presented by the Dicastery for Christian Unity on […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-88569","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-prophecy","category-religious-news"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t