News of Those Once Affiliated with the Global Church of God

Since the November 1998 takeover of the old GCG by the board in the U.S., those once with GCG went to many places. Most of the members and ministers ultimately went with the Living Church of God (LCG), 8-15% went with the Church of God, a Christian Fellowship (CGCF) and smaller percentages ended up with David Pack's Restored Church of God (RCG), Harold Smith's Church of God Fellowship, Northwest (CGFnw), and other groups (at least one which is outside the U.S. uses the term Global Church of God). On July 1, 2001, eight ministers resigned from CGCF and formed the Church of the Eternal God (CEG), similar in name, but not related, to the Eternal Church of God (ECG--founded by a minister removed from the original GCG ministry for impropriety). About a month later CGCF (USA) dissolved and most then with it ended up in the United Church of God (UCG). One former GCG minister (Ronald Laughland) became pastor of the Wholeworld Church of God. In 2004, Raymond McNair, having been in GCG, CGCF, LCG, then went on his own and formed Church of God, 21st Century (COG21); later he died and that group disbanded. Don Haney, once in GCG/LCG, formed the Church of God In Peace and Truth. In 2005, Ben Faulkner, who was in GCG/LCG, formed the Church of the Sovereign God (CotSG). In 2006, Charles Bryce who was in GCG/LCG left, and formed the Enduring Church of God (En COG). In 2010, several of the main leaders who went to UCG from CGCF left it and went to a group called COGWA. A couple of people, like Norman Edwards (Servants' News/Shepherd's Voice), left GCG well before the 1998 takeover (he has Port Austin Bible Campus). In 2013, Rod Reynolds left LCG and formed COG Messenger. On 12/15/11, a minister in good-standing with LCG anointed Bob Thiel with oil and prayed that God would grant him a double-portion of His Spirit (see also How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God): and things have not been the same since (Bob Thiel still, of course, supports the goals and biblical beliefs of Philadelphia era of the Church of God). Website links for most of those who were once part of GCG and that have websites can be found at the COGlinks page. In 2012, certain heresies were officially introduced and/or confirmed by LCG. After concluding that insufficient value was placed on the truth (and keeing their word) by certain leaders of LCG and that they no longer held to biblical church governance and could not as is be used to lead the final phase of the work (see also Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God), on 12/28/12 Bob Thiel was led to form and then announced the beginning of the Continuing Church of God (CCOG). CCOG seems to be the second or third largest group, in terms of members, of those whose leaders were once part of GCG (LCG is largest). This page reports on those groups that somehow once had ties to the old GCG.

07/03/15 a.m. Ben Faulkner has the following in an article at his Church of the Sovereign God website:

Today, that distinctive and unique Temple that God is constructing is a very special spiritual Temple. There are Bible passages that show that the Temple God is building is also holy. The construction of that Temple apparently began with the giving of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost following the events of Jesus’ death and resurrection.

The Apostle Paul grasped the spectacular meaning in what God was doing toward this spiritual Temple, which is now referred to commonly as the Church of God.  Realizing God’s purpose, Paul fervently warned the believers in Corinth about defiling that Temple.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 (16) Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Yes, the Temple of God is special.  It is holy.  Notice the last few words of 1 Corinthians 3:17.  Those words tell us that we (true believers) are now the Temple of God that God is building.

As true believers, do we consider ourselves to be holy as God’s Word describes?  We are holy!  Do we actually realize that we are now growing into the Temple of God?  Do we realize that God is building a Temple where He will abide forevermore?

It is true that the New Testament refers to Christians, and not a Jewish building, as what God now considers to be His temple. More information on that can be found in the article Why is a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem Not Required?.

06/24/15 p.m. The USA has greatly offended France (see Wikileaks: USA spied on last three French presidents; President Hollande calls for emergency meeting).  Presuming that the allegations from Wikileaks are true, this will seriously damage relations between the USA and France during this age.  The New York Times reported that French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said the U.S. must do everything it can, and quickly, to “repair the damage” to U.S.-French relations from the revelations, which he called “a very serious violation of the spirit of trust” between the allies.  What this is likely to mean is that the USA will try to appease the French.  The USA will likely share more intelligence, defer to France and the European Union on matters that it may not have otherwise, and also supply the Europeans more military technology than it may have thought was prudent.

One item that concerned me about the Living Church of God when I was part of it was that it did not clearly hold to certain prophetic positions about the final European Beast power and France. The late Dibar Apartian had his own concerns about LCG and said that some items about why LCG had problems would be clearer after he died (see Remembering evangelist Dibar Apartian). One change that LCG came out more publicly with, after Dibar Apartian died, was the view that France may not be one of the nations that would support the initial rise of the European Beast power. Here are some LCG statements from 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2011:

French Influence in Europe Waning

Bible prophecy reveals the Israelite-descended nations will go into captivity under the European “beast” power at the time of the end. But, will France be inside or outside the “beast” power? The increasing EU frustration with France will be interesting to watch. (French Influence in Europe Waning. TW News & Prophecy, March 27, 2015).

France’s Tumble from the Top

France has been a major player in the development of the EU. However, France is an Israelite-descended nation. (France’s Tumble from the Top. TW News & Prophecy, June 30, 2014).

Whom Will France Support?

As core nations in the EU seek to form a European military, Britain and France are formulating other plans. ...

For decades the Church of God has taught that a European Beast power composed of 10 nations or kings will emerge at the end of the age and play a dominant role in the world (Revelation 17 and 18). Bible prophecies indicate that most Israelite nations will not be a part of this empire (Ezekiel 23:9, 22-27; Hosea 11:5-7; Amos 5:3). The question is, will France support Europe or join with “brother” England? Time will tell. (Whom Will France Support? TW News & Prophecy, November 11, 2013).

Will France Exit the EU? ...

While France may not leave the EU in the immediate future, the Front National’s win highlights changing political winds in France and the growing unrest with the Brussels-centered EU. Some experts suggest this recent local election win is just the “tip of the iceberg”...

For decades the Church of God has understood that the end-time European Beast power will be ten kings or nations who give their power to that Beast (see Revelation 17). Bible prophecies indicate that most Israelite-descended nations will be overcome by that Beast and not be part of it (Ezekiel 23:9, 22-27; Hosea 11:5-7; Amos 5:3). It will be interesting to see what France will do. (Will France Exit the EU? TW News & Prophecy, October 21, 2013)

A coming "world political authority"? ...

The Bible predicts that, at the time of the end, ten kings will temporarily give their authority in an uneasy alliance to the “King of the North” (Daniel 2:41-43; Revelation 17:12-13)! The result will be a German-dominated European economic, military and religious superpower. It will reign for a short time, and it will not be friendly to the United States, England or France. A coming "world political authority"? TW News & Prophecy, November 3, 2011)

The published LCG views differ from what the late evangelist Dibar Apartian wrote:

This soon-coming union of ten nations or governments prophetically represents the last "head" of the resurrected "beast"-the revival of the "Holy Roman Empire" (Rev. 17 :9- 1 2). But contrary to what you may think, it wiIl NOT consist only of Gentile nations. It will INCLUDE a group of ISRAELITISH nations. "Come out of her , my people," says God in Revelation 18:4. "My people" means Israelites in Bible prophecy. Yes, once again, Joseph' s own brothers will sell him to the Gentiles!

Once again REUBEN (the first-born of Jacob who anciently conspired with his brothers, will "act" in terms of saving him, but end · up by compromising with his brothers to send him into CAPTIVITY. (Apartian D. De Gaulle and the Next World War. Plain Truth, September 1964, p. 11)

This Union of 10 Kingdoms is already in formation in Europe. In fact, France is at present one of its key members. As this prophecy reveals, this union will receive authority "for one hour" only-that is, a short time-because it is like "iron mixed with miry clay" (Dan. 2:43) ...

During the last two WORLD WARS France was at the side of her natural allies, the Anglo-Saxons. They are, indeed, her natural allies because the French people, in turn, are the modern DESCENDANTS of one of the twelve tribes of Israel, namely REUBEN! The situation, however, will be quite different during the next WORLD WAR, France will no longer fight at the side of her former allies; she will turn AGAINST them. The descendants of Reuben will play their part in selling into slavery their brother Joseph - just as Reuben did some 3700 years ago. You are now beginning to see why the relations between the United States of America and France are gradually deteriorating. (Apartian D. France: The Enigma of our Time. Plain Truth, August 1966, pp. 11-12)

I have publicly agreed with Dibar Apartian on this and have also disagreed with LCG on that and another somewhat related change (see Must the Ten Kings of Revelation 17:12 Rule over Ten Currently Existing Nations?).

Scripturally, I believe LCG's position is leading to error--perhaps pointing it out will encourage change to the correct position there.

Since there seems to be some truth related to this Wikileaks matter, this helps shows that France will have certain sympathies, for a time at least, with the coming Beast power. This subject should provide additional proof that in the Continuing Church of God "We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed" (2 Peter 1:19, KJV). Those who believe LCG does more so are standing on shakier ground than they believe.

06/19/15 p.m. Visited the website of the Church of God at Northeast Ohio, which is a group which originally had (and still may) members once affiliated with GCG. The website was promoting various sermons made by the late Herbert W. Armstrong. And while there can be value is such sermons, not all of them are timely, and none have developments which happened in the past 29 plus years. For example, the one I just did last week titled What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?, dealt with issues that Herbert Armstrong probably did not believe would be going 'mainstream' in many of the Protestant denominations (my sermon not only addresses scriptures, it also explains why pro-LGBT arguments by certain Protestant ministers are false).

As far as sermons, etc. go, I do not believe that Herbert Armstrong would have wanted the church to stop making new ones once he died. Herbert Armstrong expected people to proclaim the gospel to the world after his death, and I specifically discussed this with the late evangelist Dibar Apartian, who died over two decades after Herbert Armstrong did. Dibar told me personally that Herbert Armstrong did want he and others to continue the work. Some may also wish to watch the video sermon titled: The Short Work.

06/12/15 a.m. A 'sermon summary' by CGFNW's Harold Smith concludes with the following:

LUK 18:1-8 Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. He said: "In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men. And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, 'Grant me justice against my adversary.' For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, 'Even though I don't fear God or care about men, yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won't eventually wear me out with her coming!'" And the Lord said, "Listen to what the unjust judge says. And will not God bring about justice for His chosen ones, who cry out to Him day and night? Will He keep putting them off? I tell you, He will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" (NIV)

Will He Find Faith?

Will Christ find faith—unwavering trust in God—on the earth when He comes? The question is posed because God knows the amount is very little!
We each need to ask ourselves that question—will God find faith in us when He comes? The answer lies in how we are presently living our lives. Are we diligently seeking God by obeying Him unconditionally? Are we watching for Christ's return, or have we adopted the attitude "my Lord delays His coming"? Do we truly believe that God has provided a place of refuge for His people? Or, do we scoff at the idea and condemn those who do believe by accusing them of only wanting to save their skins, rather than remaining behind to assist those who must experience the Tribulation? Any who deliberately remain behind will disobey God (ZEP 2:1-3; MAT 24:15). They will assist no one through the Tribulation since they themselves will be put to death.
If we do believe, if we do have the faith, we will be doing what God commands and warns us to do in:

LUK 21:34-36 But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.

Many ignore prophecy. Others misinterpret it. But the question of faith is important to bring up.

To learn more about faith, check out the free online booklet Faith for Those God has Called and Chosen. A booklet that some might find of related interest would be Prayer: What Does the Bible Teach?

06/02/15 p.m. After coming to RCG from UCG, Dale Schurter reported that Herbert W. Armstrong stated the following in 1984/1985 (shortly before he died in January 1986). Here are two accounts of this:

“A few months before Mr. Armstrong’s death, my wife and I had the opportunity to spend several hours with Mr. Armstrong in his home in Pasadena. He spoke freely of the mighty work God had commissioned him to accomplish, and related certain heartfelt comments: ‘I can say that I have finished the work God has given me to do, and am at peace about it. I have preached and taken the Gospel of the Kingdom of God into all the world as a witness to all nations.’

“Mr. Armstrong went on to say, ‘I have come to realize there will be an even greater work to follow—to go again, to “prophesy again” to all nations tongues and peoples (Rev. 10:11) before the work of the two witnesses—but with more power and with a stronger warning message. But that will be for others to do.’ He continued, ‘It will be a short work (Rom. 9:27-29), compared with the longer time to complete the work I was given, and it will be cut short. That’s when the Great Tribulation will begin, as will the work of the two witnesses. These will last for three and one-half years, at the end of which Christ will return in glory.’” (“The Greatest Work Lies JUST Ahead…” as stated in RCG letter of May 31, 2013)

When Mr. Armstrong was age 91 --- about 1984 --- Mona and I had opportunity to spend several hours with him in his home in Pasadena to visit and further report on work he had commissioned us to do. We were to report directly back to him. He talked freely of the mighty work God had given him to accomplish. He went on to tell us there was yet a bigger work still to be done, to go again and repeat what has been done, but with more power and with a stronger warning, just before the work of the two witnesses would begin. He said it would be a “short work” (Rom. 9:27-29) compared with the longer time to complete the work he had been given, and that it would be “cut short.” That’s when the great tribulation would begin, as would the work of the two witnesses. These would last for three and one-half years. (January 7, 2012 Dale Schurter Speaks Out: UCG Resignation Letter

Herbert Armstrong's part of the work lasted over 50 years, and he seemingly felt that the "short work" would be much shorter than his work. And that is correct. But, I would add that RCG does not understand what the short work is (for details about the 'short work' see the article Preparing for the 'Short Work' and The Famine of the Word).

Notice something that Herbert Armstrong wrote in 1985:

In these last days, according to biblical prophecy, knowledge, spiritual as well as material, was to be increased. The true Church of God was to be set back on the track, restoring the glorious knowledge of the faith once delivered to the saints in the days of the original apostles. (Armstrong HW. Mystery of the Ages, 1985)

The above is precisely what the Continuing Church of God has done. Furthermore, we are unique in that not only have we restored more information about the history of the true Christian church and other doctrines, we are unique in our emphasis of how Satan plans to use signs and lying wonders and private Catholic prophecies to deceive (see Satan's Plan and Catholic Prophecies: Do They Mirror, Highlight, or Contradict Biblical Prophecies?). This last point was once well known in the old Radio Church of God (see Will You Be Deceived by Antichrist?), but seems to have been lost or de-emphasized by other groups.

Here is some of what I wrote years ago (I am posting it here to show that I did NOT get the idea from RCG as I had written about it years before the Dale Schurter letters):

I strongly believe that God will more powerfully use the remnant of the Philadelphia era of the Church of God to proclaim the good news of the The Gospel of the Kingdom of God and that the “short work” of Romans 9:28 will still happen–(Thiel B. The Great Tribulation Cannot Begin in 2009. December 27, 2008)

In the next decade, the small Nazarene “secret sect” will rise up more and more in effectiveness to fulfill the prophecy Jesus gave, as recorded in Matthew 24:14. Ultimately, the world will hear the message of the good news of the coming Kingdom of God on earth, under the rule of Jesus Christ and His saints (which is the ultimate rising up of “the secret sect”). (Thiel B. 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect. Nazarene Books, 2009, pp. 254-255)

By this time {Daniel 11:28}, the short work Paul mentioned in Romans 9:28 probably will have begun or be almost finished, as will the gospel preaching of Matthew 24:14 that Jesus spoke of.  This is the rising up of the “secret sect” that various prophets have foretold and hence seems to be consistent with various end-time prophetic scriptures. (Thiel B. 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect. Nazarene Books, 2009, p. 291; also cited in a post on August 19, 2012 titled Who is the Secret Sect and What is its Rise?)

And notice something that was posted within weeks of the formation of Continuing Church of God.

Warning the world that the King of the North is fulfilling Bible prophecy when he does this is likely to be part of the “short work” of Romans 9:28 that God will accomplish through His most faithful. (Thiel B. The King of the North will arise. January 12, 2013).

We in the Continuing Church of God (CCOG) are preparing for the 'short work' by establishing multiple websites in multiple languages, while researching and making available information on church history, doctrine, and prophecy, while also proclaiming Christ's Gospel of the Kingdom to the world as a witness.

We have put our beliefs online in many languages. Here is a link to the Statement of Beliefs of the Continuing Church of God in the English language. Here is a related link in Spanish/español: Declaración de las Doctrinas de la Continuación de la Iglesia de Dios. Here is a related link in Tagalog: Paglalahad ng Mga Paniniwala ng Patuloy na Iglesya ng Diyos. Here is a related link in Mandarin Chinese 继续神的教会的信仰声明. Here is a related link in Kiswahili: KATIKA LUGHA YA KISWAHILI. Here is a related link in Dutch: Verklaring van geloofspunten van de Continuing Church of God. Here is a related link in Deutsche (German): Glaubenserklärung der Continuing Church of God. Here is a related link in Italiano: Dichiarazione del Credo della Continuing Church of God.

The 'short work' will be accomplished (Romans 9:28).

Foe more information, here is a link to our latest sermon titled: The Short Work.

06/01/15 a.m. In response to my post LCG and PCG teach ten (or eleven) nations in Revelation 17:12-13–what if they are wrong?, someone affiliated with LCG sent the following:

LCG is now teaching 10 groups of nations.

My response was:

Do you have a quote?

That was responded by the sender with:

I've heard it said a few times but they still have printed material in error.

Then I responded with:

I know many believe the groups of nations position, but the written one where LCG explained why 10 or 11 currently existing nations has never been rescinded in writing as far as I can tell.  This is not good for LCG.

Here is a written position from LCG which I believe is a dangerous error:

In recent years, as the EU grew to 27 members, skeptics criticized the biblical idea that ten nations would form the nucleus of a final Beast power in Europe (Daniel 2:41-43). However, the Bible clearly states that at the time of the end, “ten kings… will give their power and authority to the beast” (Revelation 17:12-13). If this Beast is led by a particular nation (e.g., Germany), then the total number involved could well be 11! While it is not yet clear which nations will make up the final Beast power prophesied by Daniel and the Apostle John, world events indicate that a group of 10 or 11 nations coalescing to form the final Beast power is not far-fetched, fictional, or even a far-off idea-it is a soon-coming reality! (TW News & Prophecy, May 16, 2014)

Anyway, I am glad that some in LCG realize that its written position on the number of nations in Revelation 17:12-13 are in error--I have encouraged LCG while part of it, and after having to leave it, to consider changing to a more biblically-supportable position.

An article with more information on this subject is available: Must the Ten Kings of Revelation 17:12 Rule over Ten Currently Existing Nations?

05/22/15 p.m. In today's TW News & Prophecy, LCG has the following:

“Luxembourg prime minister Xavier Bettel put himself in the history books on Friday (15 May) by becoming the first EU government leader to marry someone of the same sex The marriage…symbolises how legal rights for gay citizens of the EU have advanced in the past years” (EU Observer, May 18, 2015). “‘Luxembourg can set an example,’ Bettel noted on his wedding day, which was attended by Belgian prime minister Charles Michel…In 2010, Johanna Sigurðardottir, then prime minister of Iceland, married her gay partner. The next country to take a position on the matter will be Ireland which is due to decide by referendum on Friday (22 May) whether it will legalise same-sex marriages” (ibid.). Luxembourg’s Prime Minister has set an example of biblical proportions that will bring consequences.

Long ago, the prophet Jeremiah up-braided the “leaders of Israel” causing their people to sin by the godless example and reckless behavior (Jeremiah 23:1, 13, 32). The prophet warned that God “will bring disaster on them” because they have brought “wickedness” among God’s people, and “they strengthen the hands of evil doers, so that no one turns back from his wickedness. All of them are like Sodom…and …like Gomorrah” (Jeremiah 23:11-12, 14). Sadly, the Israelite-descended nations, including Luxembourg, have set a sinful example for the world by accepting and promoting perverted behaviors under the guise of diversity.

While the Bible does condemn homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13) as well as those that endorse it (Romans 1:18-32), Jeremiah was not referring to political leaders in the verses that LCG cited.

Notice what Jeremiah actually wrote in the verses LCG referred to:

1 "Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!" says the Lord. ...

11 "For both prophet and priest are profane; Yes, in My house I have found their wickedness," says the Lord. 12 "Therefore their way shall be to them Like slippery ways; In the darkness they shall be driven on And fall in them; For I will bring disaster on them, The year of their punishment," says the Lord. 13 "And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria: They prophesied by Baal And caused My people Israel to err. 14 Also I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem: They commit adultery and walk in lies; They also strengthen the hands of evildoers, So that no one turns back from his wickedness. All of them are like Sodom to Me, And her inhabitants like Gomorrah. ...

32 Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams," says the Lord, "and tell them, and cause My people to err by their lies and by their recklessness. Yet I did not send them or command them; therefore they shall not profit this people at all," says the Lord. (Jeremiah 23:1, 11-14, 32)

Shepherds, priests, and prophets are terms normally referring to religious leaders. Despite the statement by LCG, the expression 'leaders of Israel' is not ever specifically used in the Book of Jeremiah (KJV/NKJV).

We are living in a time when religious leaders are improperly endorsing the homosexual agenda as Jeremiah warned. And while political leaders are doing this as well, the verses LCG seemingly cited as proof, do not support that position. But as generally few would look the verses up, since LCG somewhat quoted a part of them, most would not see the truth about this.

Consider also what Jesus said:

17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. (John 17:17)

The truth is not simply 'technical details' that the non-Christians and Laodiceans wish to ignore or discount.

Yet, in one of his recent letters, LCG's RC Meredith wrote:

Sometimes different ones come along with more technical knowledge or more of a “scintillating” personality. But God has been down that road before. For He had a magnificently beautiful cherub named “Lucifer” who had all kinds of ability and influence, but who “turned aside.” Lucifer was not loyal to His Creator. We must not be like that. (Meredith RC. Personal - The "Fruits" of the True Church. Living Church News. May/June 2015)

Lucifer did NOT come forth with more true technical knowledge--Jesus said he was a liar and the father of lies (John 8:44-45). Moses was NOT a great speaker, but spoke the truth. God expects His people to believe and act on the truth, not accept inaccurate information as truth--those who believe that they are to often accept error are misapplying the idea of church governance (see also The Bible, Peter, Paul, John, Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, Roderick C. Meredith, and Bob Thiel on Church Government). Dr. Meredith often used to refer to LCG literature errors I brought to his attention as 'technical details,' which he said would be fixed, though almost none were. LCG is not leading the final phase of the work (see The Final Phase of the Work) nor truly preparing for the 'short work' (Romans 9:28, see also Preparing for the 'Short Work' and The Famine of the Word).

LCG should be more careful about misapplying scriptures and other items from the Bible--though relatively few within it seem to consider this an issue--but this has been something it has done in various matters.

Anyway, for more information about the Bible and homosexuality, check out the article: The Bible Condemns Homosexuality.

For more about LCG, check out the article: What About the Living Church of God? Are there Doctrinal Differences with the Continuing Church of God? .

05/17/15 p.m. Pentecost is coming this weekend. An article of possibly related interest would be: Pentecost: Is it more than Acts 2?

Speaking of Holy Days, here is a list of Feast of Tabernacles' sites for the Continuing Church of God:

Denver, Colorado, USA, contact Dr. Bob Thiel, email
Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada, contact Herb Haddon email
Tawa/Taupo, New Zealand, contact John Hickey, email
Silay City, Philippines, contact Oscar Mediavilla, email
Gambella, Ethiopia, contact Koang Deng, email
Ndhiwa, Kenya, contact Evans Ochieng, email
Bomet, Kenya, contact Evans Ochieng, email
Transmara, Kenya, contact Evans Ochieng, email
Utegi, Tanzania. Continuing Church of God, contact Evans Ochieng, email

The Ethiopians are new to us and a visit is planned there for July 2015, but currently it appears that they will be with us. We also hope to have a site in Nigeria (probably near Abuja). There are also two groups in Asia (Kachinland and India) that have a distant affiliation with CCOG that are expected to have their own sites.

More information on the sites is in the article Feast of Tabernacles' Sites for 2015.

05/09/15 p.m. Visited RCG's website today. There has been nothing posted under 'News' there for some time. But here is some information it claims about itself:

The Restored Church of God is committed to freely offering—through the most extensive biblically based website in the world,—thorough and comprehensive PLAIN UNDERSTANDING on virtually every teaching of the Bible, small and great.

I would not agree with that as RCG has a lot of doctrinal errors that are not biblical, but are based on improper traditions of men (see Why Not the Restored Church of God?). RCG also really does not understand much about early Church history as well (for details on history, check out Continuing History of the Church of God). I would also add that the article at the RCG website called "Who is David C. Pack?" does not mention that he has taken titles such as 'apostle' and 'Elijah' (see also The Elijah Heresies).

04/29/15 p.m. Noticed the following this afternoon at the website of the Eternal Church of God:

Who are your leaders?

The Director of Administrative Services is Terry Moore who has served the Eternal Church of God since the year 2000: First as a deacon, then as an elder overseeing publishing, web design, video production, correspondence, music, and a presenter on the World to Come telecast. Mr. Moore is also the Director of Pastoral Services. He replaced Art Braidic who, after 35 years of serving God’s Church, retired March 21, 2015.

I had not realized that Art Braidic retired until just now (I have been traveling and have not visited the ECG site for many weeks). Art Braidic was my first pastor when I was in GCG.

04/16/15 a.m. In its weekly announcements today, CEG has the following:


Is It Really That Important to Understand that We Must Not Vote in Governmental Elections?

To be blunt, voting in governmental, national and presidential elections violates God’s plan for true Christians and constitutes a grave sin. It manifests the absence of faith in God; reveals a complete lack of understanding as to what the role of a true Christian is today; and shows utter ignorance as to who is ruling this world. We will not mince words in this Q&A, because FAR TOO MANY Christians are deceived and are deceiving others on this topic, foolishly thinking that they are serving God and their country by voting in governmental elections. ...

WHY do we take such a strong stance against voting in national elections, while other Christians do not seem to see any problems with this? WHY do we claim that it is part of the Christian DUTY NOT to vote in governmental elections?

The simple answer is: We will NOT water down the truth of God, even though many others do. We will NOT swim with the stream of national pride, patriotism and nationalism, if it involves violating God’s Law. We WILL obey God rather than man, not being afraid of men and their antagonistic reactions and hateful persecution, but being FEARFUL of becoming luke-warm and compromising with God’s Will, even though many Christians do.

Here is a something from the Statement of Beliefs of the Continuing Church of God:


Jesus taught, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36). John the Baptist taught, “Do violence to no man” (Luke 3:14, KJV). Historically, those of the Church of God have considered military service as wrong for its members. From Revolutionary War times to the Civil War and to present, countries like the United States have tended to have had provisions to exempt Church of God members and congregants from military participation because of conscientious objections. Early Christians did not participate in military warfare nor watch violent sports.

The Apostle Paul taught “we are ambassadors for Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:20; Ephesians 6:20). The Apostle Peter taught that God's people were “a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out” (1 Peter 2:9). The Bible also teaches that this world has been deceived by Satan the devil (Revelation 12:9) and that God's people need to be separate from the world (John 15:19; 2 Corinthians 6:14-17; Revelation 18:4). Since a Christian is God's ambassador and  this responsibility is our duty above any arising from human relationships (Acts 4:18-20; 5:26-31), it is our normal religious practice to not participate in voting for national elections nor participate in jury duty, nor do we voluntarily join the military. Historically, the faithful Church of God has long taught that its members should not participate in secular juries and secular politics.

However, Christians are expected to listen to (and pray for, 1 Timothy 2:1-3) governmental authorities (1 Peter 2:13-17) and pay their taxes (Matthew 22:17-21), yet if there is a conflict between the laws of men and the laws of God, “We must obey God rather than any human authority” (Acts 5:29, NLT).

While we have differences with CEG, CCOG takes a similar stand to CEG in regards to voting, jury duty, and military service.

04/16/15 a.m. Noticed today that at least three more LCG-supporting sites no longer post LCG's World Ahead Weekly Update. The late Carl McNair had encouraged members and local congregations to post this in the past, but this does not seem to be the current policy (or at least less in LCG are motivated to post it). LCG's Weekly Update is still available at its official website.

04/08/15 a.m. Found out why a particular LCG-supporting site no longer exists. Let me politely just say that it is related to bureaucratic issues that I told LCG would likely lead to this many years ago.

03/28/15 p.m. In its announcements for services today, LCG had the following 'world news & prophecy' item:

Bible prophecy reveals the Israelite-descended nations will go into captivity under the European “beast” power at the time of the end. But, will France be inside or outside the “beast” power? The increasing EU frustration with France will be interesting to watch.

The idea that France will be outside the beast power is a change that LCG has been dabbling with for several years. This is a position that differed from that of the late evangelist Dibar Apartian (see The 'Lost Tribe' of Reuben: France in Prophecy?) as well as the old Radio and Worldwide Church of God (see Must the Ten Kings of Revelation 17:12 Rule over Ten Currently Existing Nations?).

Here are a couple of quotes from Dibar Apartian on this:

This soon-coming union of ten nations or governments prophetically represents the last "head" of the resurrected "beast"-the revival of the "Holy Roman Empire" (Rev. 17 :9- 1 2). But contrary to what you may think, it will NOT consist only of Gentile nations. It will INCLUDE a group of ISRAELITISH nations. "Come out of her , my people," says God in Revelation 18:4. "My people" means Israelites in Bible prophecy. Yes, once again, Joseph' s own brothers will sell him to the Gentiles!

Once again REUBEN (the first-born of Jacob who anciently conspired with his brothers, will "act" in terms of saving him, but end · up by compromising with his brothers to send him into CAPTIVITY. (Apartian D. De Gaulle and the Next World War. Plain Truth, September 1964, p. 11)

This Union of 10 Kingdoms is already in formation in Europe. In fact, France is at present one of its key members. As this prophecy reveals, this union will receive authority "for one hour" only-that is, a short time-because it is like "iron mixed with miry clay" (Dan. 2:43) ...

During the last two WORLD WARS France was at the side of her natural allies, the Anglo-Saxons. They are, indeed, her natural allies because the French people, in turn, are the modern DESCENDANTS of one of the twelve tribes of Israel, namely REUBEN! The situation, however, will be quite different during the next WORLD WAR, France will no longer fight at the side of her former allies; she will turn AGAINST them. The descendants of Reuben will play their part in selling into slavery their brother Joseph - just as Reuben did some 3700 years ago. You are now beginning to see why the relations between the United States of America and France are gradually deteriorating. (Apartian D. France: The Enigma of our Time. Plain Truth, August 1966, pp. 11-12)

There were several doctrinal and other concerns that Dibar Apartian had about LCG before he died, and this was one of them.

Dibar Apartian's writings are in sharp contrast to LCG's somewhat waffling position. LCG may wish to consider that some of France was often part of the old Holy Roman Empire as well.

In other matters related to LCG, I noticed today that an affiliated site,, is still no longer active. I first noticed this a couple of weeks ago, and am not sure why it is no longer active.

03/28/15 a.m. A reader asked me for some information about RCG's David Pack because a relative was being influenced by him. In addition to referring to the article Why Not the Restored Church of God?, some specifics I said to consider included bringing up some of David Pack's words.

For example, notice what David Pack claimed in his 21st Century Apostle sermon, part 2:

Mr. Armstrong was a messenger to the 6th era. And even revealed that there are such men, 7 of them. He trained me to do the same. Mr. Armstrong was a Apostle. Yes brethren I hold that office. I do...

If I am not an apostle...I was not sent as a messenger to Laodicea...

I will not take a lot of titles...I never worried about Mr. Armstrong's titles...

This office outranks your leaders.

Notice that David Pack took the title of apostle and the title as a messenger to Laodicea. He later has taken to himself the title of 'Elijah.' The idea of being a messenger to Laodicea should be clear proof that RCG does not have the same Philadelphia work that the WCG under Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) had.

Let me add that David Pack has repeatedly made a big deal about his contacts with the late HWA. In January or February of 2015, I did talk to Aaron Dean about the David Pack's HWA claims as well as his 'Elijah' nonsense. Aaron Dean, for those unfamiliar with him, was the closest person to HWA in the last several years of his life. Aaron told me that HWA did NOT consider that David Pack was of particular importance, despite various pronouncements that David Pack has made to the contrary. Nor did Aaron consider that David Pack could be the 'Elijah' as David Pack has recently been claiming.

Many of us realize that David Pack warned against listening to him.

In a sermon given on December 12, 1998, Bill Sheppard reported that David Pack stated:

I want to make a statement, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me! I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...And I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere. ( 8/02/06).

I believe that the above is proof that God warned people, through David Pack, not to follow David Pack!

And David Pack also wrote:

Mr. Armstrong utilized the technological innovation of radio (coupled with the printed word) at the optimum time to carry the gospel to the world. To a lesser extent, certain early Sardis ministers utilized the printing press to spread the gospel. Add to this equation, the new technological innovation of computers coupled with the internet. This opens the potential for The Restored Church of God, as sole custodians of the full truth, to do a significant Work, as we rapidly approach the most crucial juncture in history. While Mr. Pack is not an apostle or a prophet, he is a pastor leading God’s people back into the full truth. The Philadelphian Work and remnant, being gathered together at this time, just before this age ends, is still alive and well! (Pack, D. The History of God's TRUE CHURCH, RCG Booklet, 2001, p. 74).

The Restored Church of God is NOT the sole custodian of truth. It has many prophetic and doctrinal errors, and is also obsessed on the personality of David Pack.

A major problem there is also that those in RCG change with what David Pack says and sadly believe God inspired the changes and contradictions. For more documented evidence, check out the article Why Not the Restored Church of God?

03/13/15 a.m. Visited EnCOG's website today. Little seemed to be going on, so I tried to check out its internet reach via When I did, the following message came up:

We don't have enough data to rank this website.

Alexa tends to rank the top 20,000,000 websites in the world. The lack of enough data to rank normally means that almost no one is visiting the related website. EnCOG has not been effective with using the internet to reach the world as a witness.

As far as doing the work, the following items may be of interest:

Should the Church Still Try to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did Herbert W. Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work? Some say the Church should mainly feed the flock now as that is what Herbert W. Armstrong reportedly said. Is that what he said? Is that what the Bible says? What did Paul and Herbert W. Armstrong expect from lower level leaders? A related sermon is available titled Priority of the Philadelphia Work.

Preparing for the 'Short Work' and The Famine of the Word What is the 'short work' of Romans 9:28? Who is preparing for it?

The Final Phase of the Work What is the final phase of the work? Who will lead it? Do you have the courage to support it? Here is a related YouTube video titled The Final Phase of the Work. The written article has been translated into Spanish La Fase Final de la Obra.

03/10/15 p.m. Received the following in an email from Continuing Church of God Pastor Evans Ochieng:

Now these are the true congregations of CCOG in Kenya:

> NDHIWA-27 ADULTS, 12 CHILDREN----------------TOTAL 39  MEMBERS
> MBANI-18 ADULTS, 22CHILDREN ------------------TOTAL 40  MEMBERS
> ORIANG-20 ADULTS, 19 CHILDREN----------------TOTAL 39  MEMBERS
> KISEKE-15 ADULTS, 21 CHILDREN-----------------TOTAL36  MEMBERS
> RONGO 7 ADULTS, 8 CHILDREN--------------------TOTAL 15  MEMBERS
> OYUGIS 6 ADULTS, 10 CHILDREN------------------TOTAL 16  MEMBERS
> ACHUTH 9 ADULTS, 12  CHILDREN-------------------TOTAL 21 MEMBERS
> MBITA 10 ADULTS 4  CHILDREN-----------------------TOTAL 14 MEMBERS
> SINDO 9 ADULTS, 5  CHILDREN-----------------------TOTAL 14 MEMBERS
> AHERO 6 ADULTS, 10  CHILDREN--------------------TOTAL 16 MEMBERS
> EBEREGE 63 ADULTS, 72CHILDREN--------------TOTAL 135.  The number has
> increased
> KEORE 29 ADULTS, 15  CHILDREN------------------TOTAL 44
> NYAMARUMA  I don't have the exact  number I will send it later
> BOMET 35 ADULTS, 16 CHILDREN----------------------TOTAL 51  MEMBERS
> CILANI  35 ADULTS, 18 CHILDREN----------------------TOTAL 53  MEMBERS
> MOSONIK 20 ADULTS, 10 CHILDREN------------------TOTAL 30  MEMBERS
> INGURO 25 ADULTS, 20 CHILDREN----------------------TOTAL 45  MEMBERS
> MAU 20 ADULTS 30 CHILDREN-----------------------------TOTAL 50  MEMBERS
> NAIROBI 6 ADULTS  children I don't have the number---TOTAL 6 MEMBERS

> KITUI 20 ADULTS. children I don't  have the number-----TOTAL 20

The Continuing Church of God has had some supporters in Kenya since 2013. But the number grew substantially in 2014 and has been growing in 2015.

The Continuing Church of God has sent songbooks, Bible News Prophecy magazines, other books, history booklets, literature, laptop computers, and other support to those in Africa. In addition to English, the Continuing Church of God has had literature, such as the Statement of Beliefs of the Continuing Church of God (see KATIKA LUGHA YA KISWAHILI) and our Study the Bible Course (see Somo 1 Katika Kiswahili), translated into Kiswahili which is the 'linga-Franca' in many nations in Africa. Our Bible News Prophecy magazine have been translated into Kiswahili (e.g. Okt-Des 2014 UNABII WA BIBLIA: MwanaFiladelfia wa Karne ya 21 ni nani?) and Dholuo (e.g. Dwe Mar Achiel - Dwe Mar Adek 2015: Wheche Manyien Mokor E Muma). We are currently looking at translating literature into at least two other African languages (including Zulu and Ekegusii).

Reaching Africa is part of Matthew 24:14;28:19-20 and thus is part of the final phase of the work.

03/05/15 a.m. A former RCG supporter sent me the following quotes that the supporter says was in the 2008 edition of the I Will Send Elijah To Restore All Things booklet written by David Pack:

I Will Send Elijah To Restore All Things

Written by David C. Pack

Implications and Walls of Defense  pg.83

"The first five chapters conclusively proved Mr. Armstrong was the final Elijah."

Summary and Grave Warning  pg. 95

"A future "Elijah counterfeit" will almost certainly soon deceive many unsuspecting brethren. "

False Christs  pg. 97

"A false prophet or a false messiah is already a deceiver.  He is not slowly becoming one.  He is already a proven, cunning, dangerous deceiver!"

Dangerous Heresy pg. 98

"Therefore, Satan must send his agents to counter this book and its contents."

"Through the false doctrines they teach, your leaders are clearly, directly shouting a warning to you to leave them!  They are "announcing" to you that you are in danger if you remain in their presence!  They are as much telling them to get away from them!"

The Coming "Strong Delusion," and its Connection to a "Mighty Man"  pg. 101

"Let's now examine the thinking of many in the splinters.  ....they are awaiting one man to come and "unite" the Churches of God."   While the concept is pure fiction,...."

"A great man of God - Elijah! - must "rise up, unite the Churches and solve all of our problems."

"Like the Jews, they are waiting for something to happen that has already happened."

"Will the devil's agents dupe you?"

So Few Survive   pg. 103

"Be careful if you are looking or praying for miracles -- or told that you should. You are being set up to fall into a disastrous trap."

pg. 104    "Beware of any who, like Simon Magus (Acts 8:17-24), covet the power to use God's Spirit to do miracles.  ...suggesting that their organization will do a "mightier Work than ever before."

The Final Decision  pg. 107

"No one can follow a false prophet or a false Christ and remain even a lukewarm christian!  Similarly, no one can ignore Mr. Armstrong's role and be or remain Philadelphian!"

Notice that the first quote David Pack is writing that the first five chapters in that booklet "conclusively proved Mr. Armstrong was the final Elijah." If that was conclusively proved, then that cannot be changed. Yet, David Pack has changed his position as he now claims that he personally is the final Elijah. David Pack's so-called proofs on many matters are often not proof.

Furthermore, David Pack is specifically doing something that he warned that an apostate leader would do. In sermons and elsewhere, David Pack is now claiming that he is 'Elijah' and that he will unite all the COG brethren.

David Pack has warned people against following him.

Cannot his followers see this? More information is in the article Why Not the Restored Church of God?

03/01/15 a.m. RCG's latest post towards 'the splinters' states the following:

Elijah is now revealed. So is the absolutely STUNNING message he is to bring! Easy to grasp, thousands have already found this detailed, eye-opening prophecy fascinating.

While David Pack has given many stunningly disturbing messages, many that he has referred to prove that he is NOT the Elijah to come. Nearly all the so-called truths that he claims to have restored are improper heresies.

He is not going to have the type of massive healings he has promised, he will not be used to lead God's Philadelphians to a place of safety (Revelation 12:14-16), and he is exploiting people and the finances.

His bullying and covetous practices are working for his followers for a time, but the reality is that his punishment will come:

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

Although David Pack should have repented about his false interpretations of prophetic scriptures in 2013, he refused. Instead he tried to blame the Bible and pointed out that he got others to agree with him--presumably so he would not accept the full blame for his outrageously false predictions. In certain respects, David Pack reminds me of Ronald Weinland--FWIW, I also said that 2 Peter 2:1-3 applied to Ronald Weinland years before he was arrested (and he is currently in prison--I posted that 2 Peter 2:1-3 applied to him on January 28, 2008). I am not saying that David Pack must also end up in prison, but that the Bible is true and that I believe that since 2 Peter 2:1-3 applies to him, his judgment and destruction will come.

Some articles of related interest could include the following:

Why Not the Restored Church of God? This group, led by David Pack, claims to be the most faithful. The information in this article suggests otherwise. Here is a version in the Spanish language: ¿Por qué no la Iglesia de Dios Restaurada?

The Elijah Heresies Does the Bible teach that there will be a future Elijah?

There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra This article discusses a biblical 'place of safety' and includes quotes from the Bible and Herbert W. Armstrong on this subject--thus, there is a biblically supported alternative to the rapture theory. There is also a video on the subject: Might Petra be the Place of Safety?  Here is something related in the Spanish language: Hay un lugar de seguridad para los Filadelfinos. ¿Puede ser Petra?

Concerns About Ronald Weinland's Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claimed to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, Jesus would return late September 2011, that Jesus would return on May 27, 2012, and later that Jesus would return on May 19, 2013. Why else does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? He has other views which show he may not be part of the Church of God.

02/27/15 p.m. There is a new booklet by COGFF'a Alton Billingsley on makeup and his take on HWA's beliefs on that. Those who would like to see a more scriptural analysis (as well as HWA quotes) may find the article Makeup and the Philadelphia Era of the COG much more helpful.

02/18/15 p.m. The Statement of Beliefs of the Continuing Church of God has just been translated into Deutsche (German).  It now available online at: Glaubenserklärung der Continuing Church of God.

The Statement of Beliefs of the Continuing Church of God has also just been translated into Italian. It now is available online at: Dichiarazione del Credo della Continuing Church of God.

In addition to English, we also have the Statement of Beliefs in other languages such as Spanish/español: Declaración de las Doctrinas de la Continuación de la Iglesia de Dios;  Tagalog: Paglalahad ng Mga Paniniwala ng Patuloy na Iglesya ng Diyos;  Mandarin Chinese 继续神的教会的信仰声明; Kiswahili: KATIKA LUGHA YA KISWAHILI; and Dutch: Verklaring van geloofspunten van de Continuing Church of God.

Building up and improving our online materials in multiple languages is part of how we in the Continuing Church of God are now preparing for the final phase of the work.

02/13/15 p.m. If you may have wondered how RCG's David Pack could get worse, notice that he posted the following:

I am posting a new message, “The MASS HEALING of God’s People—Just Ahead!” A spectacular, divine promise has been hidden in God’s Word, lost until it was God’s time to reveal it with 29 PLAIN PROOFS. This message explains—and conclusively PROVES!—that part of God’s “restoration of all things” (Matt. 17:11) involves completely healing ALL brethren who choose to return to His Church when He reunifies it. ...

His Plan is MUCH BIGGER and begins MUCH SOONER!

God makes plain in His Word that—as in the first-Century Church—He will soon heal “all manner of sickness and all manner of disease” (Matt. 4:23; 10:1) suffered by His people. This involves thousands who battle health conditions, but can now look forward to something no one ever dreamed that God intended! ...

Thousands in The Restored Church of God have heard this exhilirating truth, and know its connection to the series “First a MOSES, Now ELIJAH—130 Proofs!”, which electrified the Church around the world—and now many more outside it.

David Pack now seems to be teaching that a massive physical healing will happen to those who become part of his improperly named Restored Church of God (I consider that the initial R.C.G. would better be rendered as 'Ravished Church of God' because of David Pack's covetous doctrines such as 'common').

As far as his so-called 'PLAIN PROOFS,' many of the 130 'proofs' in his Moses and Elijah sermon series would best be categorized as opinions, and at worst in contradiction with the Bible. They were not electrifying, but revolting. All need to realize that even Satan can quote and misapply scriptures (e.g. Matthew 4), and the Bible warns that his ministers pretend to be 'ministers of righteousness' (2 Corinthians 11:14-15).

David Pack is misleading suffering people by putting forth a false hope. The “restoration of all things” happens AFTER Jesus returns. David Pack used to claim that he followed Herbert W. Armstrong and his teachings quite well. Yet, notice what Herbert Armstrong wrote about the “restoration of all things”:

 Now notice where Jesus is NOW! He (God) "shall send Jesus Christ..." back to earth, "whom the heaven must receive UNTIL the times of restitution [restoration] of all things..." (Acts 3:20-21).

   Jesus shall come, SOON NOW, to RESTORE ALL THINGS! He did NOT restore all things when he first came. John the Baptist did not "restore all things." But the one who was to "restore all things" just before the "day of the Lord" and preparing the way for Christ's second coming, was YET to come, in the future, as Jesus said.

   Now what are the "all things" to be RESTORED? "Restitution" means restore to a former state or condition. It DOES NOT and CAN NOT mean restoring things to a condition as they were in the days of Adam and Eve. It was Adam who was given the opportunity to "restore all things" as they were before Lucifer and the angels SINNED — before Lucifer became Satan and his angels became demons. Before that, THE GOVERNMENT OF GOD ruled the earth. Lucifer sat on the throne of the earth, administering the GOVERNMENT OF GOD by the LAW OF GOD! Sin is the transgression of the spiritual Law. It is the GOVERNMENT OF GOD that needs to be restored. Adam failed. (Armstrong HW. Co-Worker Letter, August 24, 1982)

The “restoration of all things” does not happen before the Great Tribulation, which is part of what David Pack is now teaching. The “restoration of all things” is not part of David Pack's false belief that thousands of real Christians will flock to him in unison. Hopefully, more will not be misled by this horrible twisting of scriptures.

As far as certain things being MUCH SOONER, it was David Pack who expected that the 'thousands' would come with him in August 2013. Can't his followers see that?

As far as healings in the first century church, the Apostle Paul sought three times for healing of an affliction God would not heal him of (2 Corinthians 12:7-10). Paul also refers to Timothy’s recurring stomach problems in 1 Timothy 5:23, and wrote that, “Trophimus have I left in Miletum sick” (2 Timothy 4:20). The Christian woman Dorcus is recorded to have became sick and died (Acts 9:36-37).

God did NOT heal all physically in the first century, nor is it His intent to heal all who might go to and/or stay in RCG. RCG is not following the Bible on this and many other teachings.

For various doctrinal issues, check out the article Why Not the Restored Church of God?

02/12/15 a.m. The Bible News Prophecy magazine is now available for the first time ever in the German language. Here is a link: Bibel Nachrichten Prophezeiung magazin, Januar – März 2015.

02/05/15 a.m. Received the following in an email today from someone expressing his opinions related to RCG and CCOG matters:

Subject: Your Article on the RCG ---- Is right on!

As a former member of the RCG, I can agree that you are right-on-the-money when it comes to the RCG in your recent article. You also might be interested in a recent article from a hate group that points out that groups like the RCG are indeed bringing shame to the COG. ...

I still know of some in the RCG who are blindly following this cult, thinking in the process that they are following God, and who are instead headed for the great tribulation! May God help them to see the truth and come here to the CCOG. ...

RCG says that we have to be punished for not agreeing with Mr. Pack. Mr. Pack says that we have to sell our homes and give the money to the RCG and that we have no right to tell them how they can spend the money once we do. Interestingly, I’ve seen a government site that lists Mr. Pack’s home as being 100% paid for and one that he tells us that he has no real equity in, a complete and blatant lie.

What RCG has been doing has been disturbing to me since its formation. While many did hold items in common in Jerusalem during a time of persecution, RCG's twisted covetous 'common' doctrine is just one of many falsehoods it teaches. Various details are in the article Why Not the Restored Church of God? I have long opposed David Pack's excessive financial requests (see RCG’s David Pack claims, ‘You’re not allowed to hold on to your own assets.’)--and of course, still do.

02/04/15 p.m. Decided to finish listening to the first part of David Pack's First a MOSES, Now ELIJAH--130 Proofs! Anyway, I wanted to hear what he was now teaching on his covetous 'common' doctrine. Quotes and comments on that are in the news post RCG’s David Pack claims, ‘You’re not allowed to hold on to your own assets.’

Hopefully those in RCG will believe the Bible over David Pack's 'great swelling words.'

02/03/15 p.m. RCG's David Pack wrote the following:

I have given a three-part sermon series unlike anything The Restored Church of God has posted. Titled “First a MOSES, Now ELIJAH—130 Proofs!”, it explains monumental prophecies with crystal clarity. It carries far-reaching implications for former members of the Worldwide Church of God and others in its offshoots. ...

Among the most important prophecies in Scripture, Malachi 4:5-6 states that without the end-time Elijah’s arrival, God would “smite the earth with utter destruction”! Thousands with a Church background are waiting for Elijah (Matt. 17:11), believing this man to be one of the Two Witnesses (Rev. 11:3). Scripture makes clear this theory is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. ...

These are the most important messages I have ever given. Hundreds in The Restored Church of God have commented in just the last two days like this: “electrifying,” “exhilarating,” “amazing,” “gripping,” “game-changing,” “awesome,” “captivating,” “overwhelming,” “tremendously inspiring,” “profound,” “mind-blowing” and “emphatically irrefutable.”

These messages will eventually divide the splinters and slivers down the middle.

It is not absolutely impossible that the final Elijah would be one of the two witnesses. David Pack's messages will not "divide the splinters and slivers down the middle." David Pack is wrong.

I tried to listen to much of the first of the three sermons. It was not “electrifying,” “exhilarating,” “amazing,” etc.

David Pack said these sermons would 'probably cause a firestorm,' etc. Actually, from what I listened to was just more of the same of David Pack pushing his ego.

He also stated: of the two witnesses. Thousands will come in {to RCG} believing I am both... No, I'm not Elisha...

We have reached the point where many millions want to hear my voice...they shall know a prophet has been among them...Two men came as watchmen, therefore this verse must apply twice...{Ezekiel 33} verse 33...

Herbert Armstrong...We do a greater work.

David Pack claimed his arguments are "air-tight," etc. He claimed to work on this series of sermons more than any in his life (he has made statements like that before). And David Pack is correct that he is not 'Elisha.' He basically said he and Herbert Armstrong were prophets, even though Herbert Armstrong denied that about himself.

David Pack then basically indicates that he is the restorer--the Elijah.

His explanation basically is that because HWA did not understand all things including the 144,000 doctrine that David Pack claimed to restore (and other David Pack positions like the 1135 days and his covetous interpretation of 'common'). David Pack said:

Did Mr. Armstrong actually restore all things? How about the doctrine of being taken by eagles?...

He didn't understand it...The King of the South, Mr. Armstrong never understood that...or Haggai and the three shepherdstied to the spiritual remnant...or how you anoint your eyes...

He never talked about the falling away. He never did! Nobody was ready for it because he never said a word about it...

You saw me restore one thing after the other...

Herbert Armstrong was not the Elijah. He was something bigger.

David Pack is correct that HWA did not restore all things. But he is in error on many points, including his false teachings about Haggai--David Pack's understanding on that was proven false in 2013 (see Why Not the Restored Church of God?).

Herbert W. Armstrong did discuss and teach about the falling away--yet David Pack completely denies it. Details for proof about which of us are right on this are in the article The Falling Away: The Bible and WCG Teachings.

David Pack later, in that sermon, taught that Herbert W. Armstrong was a Moses figure and a Zerubbabel figure, and that he himself (David Pack) is also a 'Joshua' figure--which he taught earlier (more on Zerubbabel and Joshua can be found in the article Who Are The Two Witnesses?).

David Pack erred on many points, but his followers seem unwilling to admit it. All should believe the truth and not listen to positions that are opposed to it.

01/31/15 p.m. LCG reported that Doug Winnail and Peter Nathan went to Kenya. According to another report I received, LCG has been able to greatly increase the number of people they have there as a group once part of COGaIC (which Peter Nathan had been part of) is now with them.

01/30/15 p.m. A week ago, RCG hyped the announcement it was going to make late today. Essentially, RCG's David Pack pointed to several statistics and healings and claimed that was proof that they were THE true church. Notice one statement:

This letter has brought much proof that God is only working in one organization. But the burden of proof that we are the only true Church and sole Body of Christ rests with neither The Restored Church of God nor me.

As far as healings as proof go, let me state that other COGs, including the Continuing Church of God, could publicly list healings. RCG's claims are not unique in that way.

RCG is NOT leading the final phase of the work. I question whether or not David Pack is truly a converted Christian.

Towards the end of the post was the following directed towards people in Church of God groups other than RCG:

We expect to see thousands of you soon in The Restored Church of God. God has long planned to reunify what would become His scattered people at the end of the age.

The above shows that 1) RCG does not understand the message to the churches in Revelation 2 & 3 and 2) that RCG is still clinging to the same nonsense it claimed would happen in 2013, and when it did not happen, possibly for 2014. For some of those details, please check out the article Why Not the Restored Church of God?

The reality is that David Pack misunderstands prophecy and he and his followers remain delusional if they really believe this. I denounced this, correctly, in 2013, as well as 2014. I will now denounce this for 2015. There is no possible way that thousands of Philadelphian Christians will go to RCG.

01/29/15 a.m. Just got the following in an email related to biblical requirements that the old Radio Church of God had, which presumably carried into the old Worldwide Church of God:


(Ambassador College handout)

A. Appellations of Ministers

1. Minister. The word used most in Greek is Strong's #1249, diakonos (the same word is translated "deacon" elsewhere). It means an attendant, a waiter at table or in other menial duties. The root word means to run errands.

2. Ambassador for Christ (II Cor. 5:20).

3. Fishers for men (Matt. 4:19; Mark 1:17).

4. Shepherd (Matt. 9:36; Matt. 10:6).

5. Laborer (I Thess. 3:2; Phil. 2:25; I Cor. 3:9).

6. Overseer (Acts 20:28; the same word is elsewhere translated "bishop").

7. Soldier of Christ (Phil. 2:25; II Tim. 2:3).

8. Teacher (I Cor. 4:17; Acts 5:42; I Tim. 4:11; I Tim. 6:2; II Tim. 2:2, 24, 25).

9. Preacher.

a. Strong's #2097--announce good news. (Acts 16:10)

b. Strong's #2783--herald, as a public crier. (Acts 10:42)

10. Watchman (Ezek. 33; Jer. 6:17).

11. Witness (Acts 1:8; Acts 5:32).

12. Messenger (Mal. 2:7).


B. Qualifications for Ministers

1. Blameless (II Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:6,7).

2. Husband of one wife (I Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:6).

3. Vigilant (II Tim. 3:2).

4. Sober (I Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:8).

5. Of good behavior (I Tim. 3:2).

6. Given to hospitality (I Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:8).

7. Apt to teach (I Tim. 3:2; II Tim. 2:24).

8. Not given to wine (I Tim. 3:3; Titus 1:7).

9. No striker (I Tim. 3:3; Titus 1:7).

10. Not greedy of filthy lucre (I Tim. 3:3; Titus 1:7).

11. Patient (I Tim. 3:3; II Tim. 2:24).

12. Not a brawler (I Tim. 3:3).

13. Not covetous (I Tim. 3: 3)

14. Rules well his own house (I Tim. 3:4).

15. Has his children in subjection with all gravity (I Tim. 3: 4; Titus 1: 6).

16. Not a novice (I Tim. 3:6).

17. Of good report among unconverted (I Tim. 3:7).

18. Not self-willed (Titus 1:7).

19. Not soon angry (Titus 1:7).

20. Lover of good men (Titus 1:8).

21. Just (Titus 1:8).

22. Holy (Titus 1:8).

23. Temperate (Titus 1: 8).

24. Hold fast the faithful word (Titus 1:9).

25. Gentle (II Tim. 2:24; Titus 3:2).

26. Must not strive (II Tim. 2:24).

27. Meek (II Tim. 2:25).


C. How Ministers Receive Office

1. Chosen by God, ordained, sent to bring forth fruit (John 15:16).

2. God gives pastors to feed people with knowledge and understanding (Jer. 3:15).

3. God gives various offices, some apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers (Eph. 4:11).

4. Holy Spirit reveals who is to be ordained after fasting, prayer, laying on of hands (Acts 13:2, 3).

5. Appointed, sent two by two as lambs among wolves (Luke 10: 1-3).

6. Ordain elders in every city (Titus 1:5).


D. Conduct and Attitude of Ministers

1. Be you clean, that bear the vessels of the Lord (Isa. 52:11).

2. Prepare your heart to seek the law, to do it, and to teach it (Ezra 7:10).

3. Don't drink wine or strong drink when working (Lev. 10:9).

4. Be wise as serpents, harmless as doves (Matt. 10:16).

5. Serve one another (Matt. 20:26-28).

6. Be willing to give your life for the sheep (John 10:11).

7. Be completely impartial (I Tim. 5:21).

8. Speak the things which become sound doctrine (Titus 2: 1)

9. Be gentle as a nurse cherishing children (I Thess. 2:7-12; II Tim. 2:24; Titus 3:2).

10. Give no offense in anything (II Cor. 6:3-10).

11. Be a good example (Titus 2:7, 8; I Tim. 4:12-16).

12. Preach willingly (I Cor. 9:16-17).

13. Gladly spend and be spent for the Work (II Cor. 12:15).


E. Responsibilities and Duties

1. Take heed to the ministry, fulfill it (Col. 4:17).

2. Study, meditate upon God's Word (Josh. 1:7-9; II Tim. 2:15).

3. Give self continually to prayer and ministry Acts 6:4).

4. Go, preach, teach, heal, cast out demons, baptize (Matt. 10:5-8; Matt. 28:19-20; Mark 3:14, 15; Mark 6:7-13; Luke 9:1-6; Luke 10:1-9).

5. Persuade men (Gal. 1:10).

6. Feed the sheep (John 21:15-17; Acts 20:28; I pet. 5:2,3)

7. Preach the word, reprove, exhort (II Tim. 4:2).

8. Teach the difference between holy and profane (Ezek. 44: 23).

9. Speak whether they will hear or not (Ezek. 2:7; Ezek. 3:27).

10. Establish and comfort the brethren (I Thess. 3:2).

11. Perfecting of the saints (Eph. 4:11, 12; Col. 1:28).

12. Charge people to trust the living God and do good works (I Tim. 6: 14-19).

13. Set things in order, ordain elders (Titus 1:5; II Tim. 2:2).

14. Bind and release as revealed by God (Matt. 18:18; John 20:23).

15. Rule over the brethren (Heb. 13:7, 17).


F. Instructions to Ministers

1. Study to show yourself approved to God (II Tim. 2:15).

2. Stir up the gift of God (II Tim. 1:6-14); I Tim. 4:14).

3. Endure hardness as good soldier of Christ (II Tim. 2: 3).

4. Be servant to one another (Matt. 20:26-28).

5. Preach the word (II Tim. 4:2).

6. Go, preach, heal, etc. (Matt. 10:7, 8).

7. Go two by two (Luke 10:1).

8. Go not house to house (Luke 10:7).

9. Be wise as serpents, harmless as doves (Matt. 10:16).

10. Observe these things, keep yourself pure (I Tim. 5:21, 22).

11. Put brethren in remembrance of these things (I Tim. 4:6).

12. Treat all respectfully (I Tim. 5:1-3).

13. Watch in all things (II Tim. 4:5).

14. Take stumbling block out of way of people (Isa. 57:14).

15. Cry aloud, spare not, show my people their sins (Isa. 58:1).

16. Keep not silent, give God no rest (Isa. 62:6, 7).

17. Be a good example (Titus 2:7, 8; I Tim. 4:12-16).

18. Continue in these things, be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works (II Tim. 3:14-17).

Because of issues with several of the above in LCG (e.g. B.1,3,5,14,20,21,24,27; D.7,8,11; E.5,7,8,11; F.1,10,13,15,17,18), it was necessary to heed God's ordination and instructions (C.1,2,3,4; A.10,12) and officially form the Continuing Church of God. Some details are in the article Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God.

01/24/15 p.m. The website at Don Haney's describes its church as follows:

We are a small branch rooted in the original Jerusalem Messianic Church of God.

While all Church of God groups have believed in the Messiah, typically none use the term 'Messianic' in their descriptions as the 'Messianic' movement is NOT part of the Church of God. The original Church of God did NOT have many of the trappings that the Messianic movement has. Don Haney also has photos of himself dressed more like the leader of a Messianic congregation than a Church of God congregation.

Anyway for more information on the Messianics, as well as the history of the true Church of God, consult the following:

Messianic Judaism Beliefs Differ from the Continuing Church of God Both groups keep the seventh-day Sabbath, but have important differences in doctrines and practices. Here is a link to a related sermon: Messianic Jewish Beliefs.

Where is the True Christian Church Today? This free online pdf booklet answers that question and includes 18 proofs, clues, and signs to identify the true vs. false Christian church. Plus 7 proofs, clues, and signs to help identify Laodicean churches. A related sermon is also available: Where is the True Christian Church? Here is a link to the booklet in the Spanish language: ¿Dónde está la verdadera Iglesia cristiana de hoy?

Continuing History of the Church of God This pdf booklet is a historical overview of the true Church of God and some of its main opponents from c. 31 A.D. to 2014. Two related sermon links would include Continuing History of the Church of God: c. 31 to c. 300 A.D. and Continuing History of the Church of God: 4th-16th Centuries. In Spanish: Marque aquí para ver el pdf folleto: Continuación de la Historia de la Iglesia de Dios.

01/10/15 p.m. Received an email from CCOG Pastor Evans Ochieng today on doing the work and some specifics relalated to Africa. Here is a link to his letter: Pastor Evans Ochieng: CCOG growing daily in Africa.

01/08/15/ p.m. Received the following email:

January 8, 2015

Email to:  Living Church of God Ministry

Hello everyone,

I wanted to let you know that Mr. Bob League died this morning at 8:30 am. His heart was unable to function and multiple organs were failing. Bob was 82 years old and served in the ministry for decades in a number of areas. Please keep Mrs. League and their family in your prayers. Mr. League’s funeral is being planned for this coming Sunday afternoon, January 11, here in Charlotte, North Carolina. More details will follow.

Warm Regards,
Douglas Winnail

I had some contact with LCG's Bob League in the past but did not know him well.

01/03/15 p.m. Some may wonder why it has been a while since anything was posted here about David Pack's RCG. Well, basically RCG has stopped posting 'news' about David Pack's assertions that those in the COGs would have to soon come and support him. It is not that he no longer believes it, but after being proven wrong in 2013 and 2014, he may hope that by not going out on a limb and being wrong like he had been is in his best interest. Tomorrow, RCG plans to broadcast a telecast related to the Ten Commandments. And while true Christians should keep the Ten Commandments, the way many in RCG tend to view the law reminds me a lot of the Pharisees that Jesus condemned.

Anyway, RCG still exists but it has not had the type of growth that David Pack was trumpeting in the Spring and Summer of 2013, etc.

Some items of possibly related interest may include:

Why Not the Restored Church of God? This group, led by David Pack, claims to be the most faithful. The information in this article suggests otherwise. Here is a version in the Spanish language: ¿Por qué no la Iglesia de Dios Restaurada?
Are the Laodiceans the Modern Sadducees and Pharisees? Discusses similarities of the Sadducees and Pharisees to various COGs in this end-time.
What is a True Philadelphian? Many claim to be part of the Philadelphia era of the Church, but is claiming enough? This article has biblical and historical evidence about who really are the Philadelphians.
What Did Jesus Teach About the Ten Commandments? This article quotes what Jesus actually said about them (His words are in red).
Were the Ten Commandments 'Nailed to the Cross'? Some have said so. This article provides some biblical quotes to answer this important question.
What Did Paul Actually Teach About the Ten Commandments? Many say Paul taught against the ten commandments. Is this true? This article quotes Paul with his words in green.
Are the Ten Commandment Still in Effect? This article quotes the ten commandments and combines some of the previous articles into one article about the ten commandments. The commandments are shown at Mount Sinai, before Mount Sinai, in the teachings of Jesus, after the crucifixion, and in the teachings of Paul. It addresses the most common "traditions of men" regarding them as well. Here is a version in the Spanish language:.¿Están vigentes todavía los diez mandamientos?
Were the Pharisees Condemned for Keeping the Law or Reasoning Around it? Many believe that the Pharisees were condemned for keeping the law, but what does your Bible say? If they were not condemned for that, what were they condemned for?
The Ten Commandments Reflect Love, Breaking them is Evil Some feel that the ten commandments are a burden. Is that what Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, and John taught? For a more detailed discussion of the first four commandments, please see the video The Ten Commandments: Loving God. For a more detailed discussion of the last six commandments, please see: The Ten Commandments: Loving Your Neighbor. Here is a link to a related article in Mandarin Chinese 十条诫命显示爱,违反诫命的就是邪恶的
Was the Commandment to Love the Only Command? Some have stated that John's writings teach this, but is that what the Bible really says?
The Ten Commandments and the Early Church Did Jesus and the Early Church keep the ten commandments? What order were they in? Here are quotes from the Bible and early writings.

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