Can those in the USA/UK see the Handwriting on the Wall?

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Handwriting on the Wall (Rembrandt) 

By COGwriter

Are things truly well in the USA, the UK, and other Anglo-nations? Will they continue to lead the world economically? Are there signs that should be obvious to many? What might any of this have to do with the 'handwriting on the wall' that the Bible teaches about? (Here is a link to a related YouTube video Can you see the 'Handwriting on the Wall'?)

The State of the USA and the Anglo-descended nations

Once per year, the President of the United States must give what is called the 'State of the Union' address before the Congress of the USA. In it, presidents basically try to say some good things and explain some things that they hope to work on and/or accomplish.

Normally, the State of the Union speech is intended to be somewhat upbeat.

But what is the true spiritual state of the USA? And how is that affecting its economic might?

Ever since the USA considered legalizing abortions, it began been losing its position as the world's leading lender. And actually, the USA is now the greatest debtor nation of all time (read Abortion, the Bible, and a Woman's Right to Choose some may also, or instead, wish to view the YouTube video Abortion, the Bible, and US Debt).

As the USA has increased its acceptance of the homosexual agenda (The Bible Condemns Homosexuality) and celebrity pornography (read Pornography: A scourge on society some may also, or instead, wish to view the YouTube video Pornography: Harmless Fun or a Scourge on Society?), it has increased its federal deficit as well as implemented policies such as quantitative easing that devalue its dollar.

The Bible only supports marriage as being between a man and a woman (Matthew 19:4-5) and encourages modesty (1 Timothy 2:9), not lust (Jeremiah 13:26-27; Matthew 5:27-28) or pursuing 'strange flesh' (Jude 7). And it is not just the USA, Canada and New Zealand have legalized homosexual marriage and the UK and Australia are moving in that direction. The Bible also endorese being sober (1 Peter 5:8), something that drunkards (Deuteronomy 29:19; see also Binge Alcohol Drinking and the Bible) and marijuana users have real problems with (see also Marijuana: Should a Christian Get High?).

As far as pornography goes, on November 19, 2013, I read about two female celebrities wearing see-through dresses. The media was trying to determine which one looked best. Shortly thereafter (on the same day), I read (did not see) a headline about some other female celebrity who wore a see-through dress and did so without wearing any underwear. That same day I read that some other female celebrity decided to do be on some singer's video topless. These were all USA/UK celebrities (Note: I was not looking for any of these type of stories--all I was doing was my normal news review to look for what news to comment on.) Earlier in November 2013, I read that more and more are looking into spray on clothes.  Essentially, some type of body paint that some will consider to be clothing. Painted nudity. And in 2015, I read about an American female singer who decided to perform all or part of her concert totally nude. And on national television, a different American female singer wearing a short skirt, bent over in front of a male singer and pretended to imitate sexual intercourse--this did not ruin her career, it made her more famous, which is a big part about why others are imitating her in their own ways. The trend is not good. Some have even suggested that inclusion of animals in some of this will happen--this may be--and is not good (Leviticus 18:23). Plus, on the news there was a photograph of the current 'first-lady' in 2016 that showed that she was involved in what I have described as the soft-pornography business. None of this bodes well for the USA.

Furthermore, in the USA, essentially the US Federal Government and Federal Reserve print up more and more 'pledges' that are dishonest 'profits' that are not truly intended to be paid back.

The Bible does not look favorably upon these actions and warns of destruction:

13 “Behold, therefore, I beat My fists at the dishonest profit which you have made, and at the bloodshed which has been in your midst. 14 Can your heart endure, or can your hands remain strong, in the days when I shall deal with you? I, the Lord, have spoken, and will do it. 15 I will scatter you among the nations, disperse you throughout the countries, and remove your filthiness completely from you. 16 You shall defile yourself in the sight of the nations; then you shall know that I am the Lord. (Ezekiel 22:13-16)

3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time; But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries, wait for it; Because it will surely come, It will not tarry…5 Indeed, because he transgresses by wine, He is a proud man… 6 “Will not all these take up a proverb against him, And a taunting riddle against him, and say, ‘Woe to him who increases What is not his–how long? And to him who loads himself with many pledges’? 7 Will not your creditors rise up suddenly? Will they not awaken who oppress you? And you will become their booty. 8 Because you have plundered many nations, All the remnant of the people shall plunder you (Habakkuk 2:3,5,6-8).

US debt, combined with programs such as the Federal Reserves’ quantitative easing, are sending signals to the rest of the world that the US dollar needs to be replaced as the world’s primary reserve currency.  And from China to Russia to the Middle East to Europe and elsewhere, various world leaders are moving to replace the USA dollar’s position.  This will hurt the economy of the USA over 100 times as much as quantitative easing has helped it. I would also add that the on a per capita basis the UK is one of the most indebted nations of all time.

US President Obama in 2014 took steps to make dealing in marijuana easier (see Obama Administration relaxes financial restrictions for marijuana sellers). At the time I wrote that this looks like it could lead to greater use and legalization of that intoxifying substance (see also Marijuana: Should a Christian Get High?). Sadly, I was right about that.

Although Donald Trump replaced Barack Obama as US President, he has some of the same issues as well as others more unique to him (see Donald Trump in Prophecy).

Politicians and other leaders continue to turn aside from biblical morality and increase debt. They are causing people to err, and this will lead to destruction:

12…Those who lead you cause you to err, And destroy the way of your paths. (Isaiah 3:12)

16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err, And those who are led by them are destroyed (Isaiah 9:16).

Notice that it is not just those who participate in biblical sins, such as homosexuality, abortion, and pornography, but also those who approve them that are subject to destruction:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. (Romans 1:18-32)

5 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No! They were not at all ashamed; Nor did they know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; At the time I punish them, They shall be cast down," says the Lord. (Jeremiah 6:15)

The US Supreme Court ruled in favor of homosexual marriage, the mainstream media often promotes celebrity pornography and other immortality, and as immorality spreads this will lead to destruction. As far as sexual immorality goes, New Zealand females are considered to be the most promiscuous in the world. All of this does not bode well for the USA nor its Anglo-allies.

"Experts" in the media who justify the immorality and the debt are involved in fulfilling Romans 1:18.

It should be understood that it is not just political leaders and celebrities that are involved in all of this. The generation known as millennials has been impacted by all of this. A 2014 Pew Study has findings about the generation known as millennials:

March 8, 2014

New poll numbers show big differences in the oft-maligned millennial generation.

The wide-ranging study conducted by Pew shows millenials, or those falling into the 18 to 33 age group, differ from previous generations…Pew notes, ”They are relatively unattached to organized politics and religion, linked by social media, burdened by debt, distrustful of people, in no rush to marry— and optimistic about the future.”Specifically, the research found as many as 50 percent of millennials describe themselves as political independents. Though they also tended to lean left…

According to a writer for The Wire, that could mean bad news for Republicans.

“For the Republican Party, it’s hard to see Pew’s new survey of American millennials as very good news. …  Pew walks through a number of social issues, finding younger people more likely to support same-sex marriage, legal marijuana and immigration reform.”

The study also found millennials tend to differ from previous generations on traditional American institutions like religion and marriage as well.

On religion, 29 percent of millennials said they were not affiliated with any particular faith. According to Pew that’s the highest the number has been in the last quarter-century.

And when it comes to marriage, just 26 percent of millennials have tied the knot…

Though millennials are the most-educated group of young adults in American history, they also have higher levels of student loan debt, poverty, and unemployment than the two generations preceding them.

March 8, 2014

Pew Study:

Millennials are more liberal than their grandparents. This probably goes without saying, but there is a huge gap between how Millennials vote and how their parents and grandparents vote. In general Millennials are very supportive of universal healthcare and don’t really care that much about the size of the government…

In general, Millennials think they are less patriot and less religious.

One chart that I saw related to the Pew Study above showed that 56% or so of millennials favored abortion.–that does not bode well for the USA (watch also Abortion, the Bible, and US Debt and/or Land of 'Free' Abortions and Debt).

When debt ends up being a factor that gets foreign creditors willing to take dramatic action against the USA and its Anglo-Saxon allies (cf. Habakkuk 2:6-8; Daniel 11:39), the debt-prone millennials may realize that living off of borrowed money was not as good of an option as many seemed to have thought.

As for the more present time and nearer future, some have indicated that the views of the millennials would be expected to affect USA politics.

Those who have hoped that the USA would attempt to decrease the size of its government, become more like how its Constitution seems to define it, and/or wanted to see a change towards more biblical standards of morality,  will likely be disappointed by how the millennials and those that are coming up after them will behave.

The USA has become an evil empire (see also Is the USA now an Evil Empire?).

There is Plenty of Food, So Isn't Everything Fine?

Most in the USA are oblivious to what is really going on. The prevailing attitude as far as increasing debt goes seems to be "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!" (1 Corinthians 15:32). In other words, let's delay or ignore the problems and we will all be fine.

And through various budget talks, the so-called fiscal cliff, sequestration, government shut-downs, and the so-called debt limit, the leaders of the USA have continued to not solve the problem. Instead the net result of all the negotiations is that the federal debt has gone up (at rates between 20-100 billion dollars most months) and the US Federal Reserve keeps creating money that should not exist (an additional $85 billion per month).

Its almost like a big party. Many overeat (see Obesity, processed foods, health risks, and the Bible) and over drink (see Binge Alcohol Drinking and the Bible).

Jesus warned that because of personal interests, many would not see what is going on:

26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:26-29)

36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. (Matthew 24:36-44 )

People are in a partying state that and believe nothing will get too bad. Well it will. And one of the things that Sodom was destroyed for was for going after "strange flesh":

7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 7)

6…the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly (2 Peter 2:6)

The Bible is clear that Sodom was intended for an example for today. Are not the Anglo-nations living ungodly now?

Laodicean Issues

Many in the USA and UK have been part of one or more valid Church of God (COG) groups. Yet, because of wrong focus and priorities, relatively few truly understand end time prophecies.

If they would study the teachings of the various COG groups and compare them to the Bible, they would realize that all the Laodicean and Sardis-era groups have serious misunderstandings about prophecy and the Bible.

Although Jesus had warnings recorded about these groups in Revelation 2 & 3, they refuse to see the problems and change as Jesus advised. Lists of doctrinal, prophetic, and other issues related to these groups are in the articles about the individual groups, as well as those titled The Laodicean Church Era and The Sardis Church Era. In many ways, there is a 'handwriting on the wall' that they themselves do not wish to heed.

The Handwriting on the Wall

Thousands of years ago, there was a big irreverent party. You can read about it in the fifth chapter of the Book of Daniel.

1 Belshazzar the king made a great feast for a thousand of his lords, and drank wine in the presence of the thousand. (Daniel 5:1)

The King then decided to prove that he was above the God of Israel:

2 While he tasted the wine, Belshazzar gave the command to bring the gold and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken from the temple which had been in Jerusalem, that the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines might drink from them. 3 Then they brought the gold vessels that had been taken from the temple of the house of God which had been in Jerusalem; and the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines drank from them. 4 They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold and silver, bronze and iron, wood and stone. (Daniel 5:2-4)

Then something unexpected happened:

5 In the same hour the fingers of a man's hand appeared and wrote opposite the lampstand on the plaster of the wall of the king's palace; and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. 6 Then the king's countenance changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his hips were loosened and his knees knocked against each other. 7 The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. The king spoke, saying to the wise men of Babylon, "Whoever reads this writing, and tells me its interpretation, shall be clothed with purple and have a chain of gold around his neck; and he shall be the third ruler in the kingdom." 8 Now all the king's wise men came, but they could not read the writing, or make known to the king its interpretation. 9 Then King Belshazzar was greatly troubled, his countenance was changed, and his lords were astonished. (Daniel 5:5-9)

So, the "experts" could not figure this out. So the queen has an idea:

10 The queen, because of the words of the king and his lords, came to the banquet hall. The queen spoke, saying, "O king, live forever! Do not let your thoughts trouble you, nor let your countenance change. 11 There is a man in your kingdom in whom is the Spirit of the Holy God. And in the days of your father, light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, were found in him; and King Nebuchadnezzar your father — your father the king — made him chief of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers. 12 Inasmuch as an excellent spirit, knowledge, understanding, interpreting dreams, solving riddles, and explaining enigmas were found in this Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar, now let Daniel be called, and he will give the interpretation." (Daniel 5:10-12)

The queen realized that the experts that the king was usually relying on were not competent. And she was listened to this time:

13 Then Daniel was brought in before the king. (Daniel 5:13)

The Prophet Daniel was then asked to interpret the handwriting that was written on the wall. The moral trend in that kingdom was not good according to Daniel (Daniel 5:22-23). After stating that, here is the interpretation that the prophet Daniel gave of that handwriting on the wall:

24 Then the fingers of the hand were sent from Him, and this writing was written.

25 “And this is the inscription that was written:


26 This is the interpretation of each word. Mene: God has numbered your kingdom, and finished it; 27 Tekel: You have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting; 28 Peres: Your kingdom has been divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.” (Daniel 5:24-28)

30 That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, was slain. (Daniel 5:30)

That kingdom was taken over that very night (Daniel 5:30-31)–but the USA still has several years, at least, left.

Xenophon, the Greek historian who wrote the Cyropaedia in the fourth century before Christ, says that "when Cyrus reached Babylon" 539 B.C. he dug channels for the dispersal of the water in the river Euphrates which ran under the gates of Babylon. Then he and THE MEDO-PERSIAN ARMY SECRETLY ENTERED THE RIVER BED, climbed stealthily through the gates along the river and rushed to the palace "when he heard chat there was a festival in Babylon, in which all the Babylonians drank and revelled the whole night." It was the night of the new moon of the seventh month of the Babylonian year. Upon reaching the palace where Belshazzar had seen the handwriting on the wall, they "burst in, and, pursuing those who fled, and dealing blows amongst them, came up to the king, and found him in a standing posture with his sword drawn. [They] mastered him." So Belshazzar the King in Babylon — was killed that night exactly as Daniel said. (Hoeh H. There is a Way of Escape. Plain Truth, 1970)

Interestingly, Daniel only mentioned the word "Mene" once, indicating that this prophecy would have a second fulfillment.

Now this prophecy of Belshazzar’s feast was sot a message for that day only. Do you realize that even Daniel didn’t understand what he was inspired to write? Notice it in Daniel the 12th chapter, the 8th and the 9th verses:

“And I heard, but I understood not. And then I said, ‘0 my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?”’ Daniel wrote what an angel had been revealing to him. The angel said, “Go thy way, Daniel, for the words are closed and sealed till the time of the end.” Even Daniel didn’t understand what he was inspired to write.

A WARNING for Today!

Do you realize that the Jews were already in captivity when Daniel wrote? This prophecy of the handwriting on the wall was not for them. It came too late to save them. ...

Why This Warning Was Written!

This warning came TOO LATE to save Belshazzar. This account was written FOR YOU ... It wasn’t written for the Jews of that day. It was written for us today, and WE HAVE TIME To HEED. We have the to escape the destruction that is now threatening you and me--if we wake up. ...


“Then Daniel made answer to the king, ‘Keep your gifts for yourself, and give your rewards to someone else. However, I will read the writing for the king, and let him know the meaning of it. 0 king, the Most High God gave king Nebuchadnezzar, your father, the realm’.’’

He is showing here once again that God is the Most High Ruler. He makes and unmakes nations. ...

King Belshazzar had fallen into the illusion that grips most of you TODAY. God had become UNREAL! God seemed to be FAR OFF! God seemed like a myth. Their minds were turned only to the things that they could see, material objects, the things of materialism. A material mind only knows material things, and God does seem like a myth, far off.

God ENDED that world-kingdom! God makes and unmakes nations and empires. ...

The handwriting is upon the wall of America, of Christendom, this hour. There is protection for you if you will open your eyes to God’s prophecies--if you wiIl study your Bible, if you will surrender your life to your Creator, if you will only come to Him in obedience in living faith through Jesus Christ! (Armstrong HW. The Handwriting is on the Wall of America NOW! Plain Truth, March 1956)

Before going further, let me state that various churches (including the old Worldwide Church of God) have taught that the 'value' of the four words of the handwriting added up to 126 shekels, which equals 2520 gerahs. That would be seven 360 day prophetic years, 2520 days.

The old Radio Church of God, then Worldwide Church of God, taught:

Xenophon, the Greek historian who wrote the Cyropaedia in the fourth century before Christ, says that "when Cyrus reached Babylon" 539 B.C. he dug channels for the dispersal of the water in the river Euphrates which ran under the gates of Babylon. Then he and THE MEDO-PERSIAN ARMY SECRETLY ENTERED THE RIVER BED, climbed stealthily through the gates along the river and rushed to the palace "when he heard chat there was a festival in Babylon, in which all the Babylonians drank and revelled the whole night." It was the night of the new moon of the seventh month of the Babylonian year. Upon reaching the palace where Belshazzar had seen the handwriting on the wall, they "burst in, and, pursuing those who fled, and dealing blows amongst them, came up to the king, and found him in a standing posture with his sword drawn. [They] mastered him." So Belshazzar the King in Babylon — was killed that night exactly as Daniel said. God is no respecter of persons. As He punished Israel and Judah for seven prophetic "times" — 2520 years — so would be the punishment of the Gentiles! God began to punish the nation by cursing their king for seven literal years. The king repented, but the nation did not. For that sin, God continued the punishment on the Gentiles, beginning with the fall of Babylon, for 2520 years. (Hoeh H. IF WORLD WAR III COMES - There Is a Way of Escape. Plain Truth, June 1963)

The Bible itself defines this period of seven times for us. If you turn to Revelation the twelfth chapter, and compare verses 6 and 14, you will see that the word "time" in prophecy simply means a year. Hence seven "times" would be "seven years," each containing twelve 30-day months — or a total of 2520 days (7x12x30). ...

God was dealing with the Gentiles in Daniel's day. The Gentile king Nebuchadnezzar had been sinning -- living contrary to God's law. He had been taking his people on the road to world conquest and the enslavement of other nations and peoples. He had been traveling the way of war, not of peace.

God had sent His warning. The king did not heed. So God punished the nation seven years (569 to 562 B.C.) by cursing King Nebuchadnezzar with madness — till he acted and thought like a beast of the forest!

No punishment like that had ever come on any king before! No nation had ever been so cursed!

After these seven years Nebuchadnezzar's mind returned to sanity. He now repented, admitted that his ways were wrong, and actually wrote a great public document admitting before all nations what had happened to him and to his people!

After those seven years of punishment, the kingdom of Babylon was given the heart of a man. The leaders began to think in ways of peace instead of war. Notice Daniel 7:4. The kingdom of Chaldea (or Babylon) — here symbolized by a ferocious lion — stood "upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given it."

Notice the parallel. King Nebuchadnezzar, because of his sins, was punished seven literal years. At the end of that time he regained his sanity and began for the first time in his life to repent and to give up the ways of war for the way of peace. ... As He punished Israel and Judah for seven prophetic "times" -- 2520 years -- so would be the punishment of the Gentiles! God began to punish the nation by cursing their king for seven literal years. (Hoeh H. There is a Way of Escape. Plain Truth, 1970)

Now the old Radio, then Worldwide Church of God taught something would be 2520 years from Belshazzar's demise, but prophetically, that does not seem to be the case when we look at history in the year 1980, which is 539 BC plus 2520 years. But the idea that the future fulfillment of the handwriting could be 7 years instead (as Dr. Hoeh seemed to read over) and applicable to end time Israel (as Herbert Armstrong indicated) seems to be a better interpretation of this.

The old WCG also taught the following, which was confirming that WCG position that the 'handwriting' had a future application:

That handwriting's for us Now understand what the handwriting on the waH said: "And this is the inscription that was written: MENE, MENE , TEKEL, UPHARSIN . This is the interpretation of each word. MENE: God has num- bered your kingdom, and finished it; TEKEL: You have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting ; PERES : Your kingdom has been divided, and given to the Medes and Persians" (verses 25-28). ...

God's handwriting for Belshaz- zar is also a dire warning of His judgment on modern Babylon the great. Will you heed it and be spared the tribulation that is now just ahead of us? Some will. Most will not. (Aust J. The Handwriting ' s on the Wall. Good News, March 1986)

Though the article did not add it up, it adds up to 2520 shekels, or 7 prophetic years.

As it turns out, there is a period of time of seven years mentioned in Daniel 9:27 (see The 'Peace Deal' of Daniel 9:27). Once a particular deal is confirmed by a 'prince,' the civilizations of the world will only have seven years until Jesus will return and then:

15 “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Revelation 11:15)

The final Babylonian kingdom will fall (Revelation 18).

But what about the USA?

Well as it turns out, that prophecy in Daniel 9:27 has a mid-point:

27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate (Daniel 9:27).

The mid-point is when the Great Tribulation (Matthew 24:21) will begin USA itself will be taken over (Daniel 11:31-39). Thus, once the deal of Daniel 9:27 is confirmed, all who will properly pay attention will be able to know the appoximate number of days that the USA and its Anglo-Saxon allies will have left (they will not all be destroyed the same day).

So now, let us again look at the words from the wall and apply them to the United States.

  1. Mene: Your days as being on the top of the world order are numbered. And more in the world are starting to realize this.
  2. Mene: Despite signs of your decline, instead of repenting, you seem to be taking steps to speed it up–you are soon to be finished.
  3. Tekel: Your morality and “conscience” have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting.
  4. Peres/Upharsin: Your nation will be divided by the final Beast, the King of the North (Daniel 11:39), and he will make your people slaves as your nation will be finished.

Do you think that this interpretation may be alarmist? Even when US President, Barack Obama stated the the deficits of the USA are unsustainable. And he was right about that. Something that is unsustainable cannot be continued forever. Despite talks of deficit reduction and a new president (who has called himself, "The king of debt"), the debt continues to rise (see Donald Trump in Prophecy). No serious concrete proposals are apt to be implemented.

Without national repentance, the USA is doomed for destruction. So too, are its Anglo-allies.

Now, let me add that an actual time period, a countdown if you will, is coming.

The term Mene was mentioned twice, which indicates both a few application--beyond Belshazzer--as well as an actual numbering.

The USA needs national repentance.

Yet, as it is unlikely that the USA will have national repentance, it is on the way to destruction. But that does not preclude individual repentance. And that is something that you can do. The vast majority of end-time Christians (Revelation 3:19) and all non-Christians (Acts 2:38) need to repent. All need to grow in grace and knowledge (2 Peter 3:18).

Of course, most will not properly repent or change their lives. Many will conclude that they can safely wait as they believe that they will be able to know enough about the end that they will change just before it is time. Not only did Jesus warn against that in Matthew and Luke, see the following warning in Zephaniah:

1 Gather yourselves together, yes, gather together, O undesirable nation, 2 Before the decree is issued, Or the day passes like chaff, Before the Lord's fierce anger comes upon you, Before the day of the Lord's anger comes upon you! 3 Seek the Lord, all you meek of the earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the Lord's anger. (Zephaniah 2:1-3)

Notice that God wants His people (cf. 2 Peter 2:9-10) gathered together well BEFORE the decree for protection is issued (cf. Revelation 12:14-16), and then it MAY be that certain Christians will be protected (cf. Revelation 3:10; see also There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra).

The USA and its Anglo-allies are in decline. The increased sexual immorality and debt are signs. Not properly heeding prophecy is an issue (see also ). The Bible warns not to wait until it is too late.

What will you do?

Can you see the handwriting on the wall?

Thiel B. Can those in the USA see the Handwriting on the Wall? Can those in the USA see the Handwriting on the Wall? 2013/2014/2015/2017 0920

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Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?
Can you see the 'Handwriting on the Wall'?) This is a YouTube video. Thousands of years ago, King Belshazzar saw a hand appear at a big party he was hosting. The hand wrote Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin. Shortly after the Prophet Daniel explained it, his empire was taken over and King Belshazzar died. Is this applicable today? Are there signs right before our eyes that show that the end is coming to the United States and its Anglo-descended allies. Do abortions, sexual immorality, celebrity pornography, and increased debt mean anything? What does the Bible show?
Will the Anglo-Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves? Will the lands of the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand be divided? What about Jerusalem? What does Bible prophecy teach? Are there non-biblical prophecies that support this idea? Who will divide those lands? Who will end up with the lands and the people? Here is a link to a video titled Will the USA and other Anglo-nations be Divided and Their People Made Slaves?
Just What Do You Mean — Repentance? Do you know what repentance is? Have you truly repented? Repented of what? Herbert W. Armstrong wrote this as a booklet on this important subject.
Abortion, the Bible, and a Woman’s Right to Choose Do you know what the Bible teaches on this? Has the Roman Catholic Church allowed abortions? What about the real Church of God? Two related videos are Abortion, the Bible, and US Debt and Land of 'Free' Abortions and Debt.
Who is the King of the West? Why is there no End-Time King of the West in Bible Prophecy? Is the United States the King of the West?
Protestant and Church of God views of the United States in Bible Prophecy Is the USA mentioned in Bible prophecy? Some Protestants say yes, while others say no. What does the Bible really teach? Learn the truth about this. Is The United States Mentioned In Bible Prophecy?
Donald Trump in Prophecy Prophecy, Donald Trump? Are there prophecies that Donald Trump may fulfill?  Are there any prophecies that he has already helped fulfill?  Could a Donald Trump presidency be apocalyptic?  A related video is titled: Donald: 'Trump of God' or Apocalyptic?
Trump Presidency Magic 8 Ball or Bible Prophecy? BBC reported that one might as well use a 'Magic Eight-Ball' to try to predict what will happen in the remaining time of Donald Trump's presidency. What is a 'Magic Eight-Ball'? Dr. Thiel not only explains that, but also briefly goes over 10 biblically-based warnings he wrote would happen if Donald Trump were elected that have already began to come to pass. He also goes over something he wrote back in 2008 that the Trump presidency is also helping lead to fulfillment. Should you trust Bible prophecy or not? Dr. Thiel says that Bible prophecy can be trusted, despite the view of skeptics and others that either overlook or despise the Bible. This is a video.
Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse This 188 page book is for people truly interested in prophecies related to Donald Trump and the United States, including learning about several that have already been fulfilled and those that will be fulfilled in the future. The physical book can be purchased at Amazon for $12.99 from the following link: Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse.
Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse-Kindle Edition This electronic version of the 188 page print edition is available for only US$3.99. And you do not need an actual Kindle device to read it. Why? Amazon will allow you to download it to almost any device: Please click HERE to download one of Amazon s Free Reader Apps. After you go to for your free Kindle reader and then go to Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse-Kindle Edition.
Cross-dressing and other assaults against your children. What should you do? Is there an agenda to turn your children and/or grandchildren away from biblical morality and towards practices promoted by homosexuals? What does the Bible teach about cross-dressing? What should parents do? If there is an agenda, what has been going on?  There is also a YouTube video on this, titled Cross dressing and Other Assaults Against Your Children.
The Bible Condemns Homosexuality "Same-sex marriage" for "gays" and lesbians is becoming more acceptable to many. What does the Bible teach about homosexuality?  Can homosexuals change? A related video sermon is titled What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?
Pornography: A scourge on society Is pornography harmless fun? Does the Bible teach anything about it? What are the views of some involved with it? Here is a link to a YouTube video Pornography: Harmless Fun or a Scourge on Society?
British and American Moral Decay Public nudity is becoming more prevalent in the Anglo-lands. What are some of the consequences?
Should Christians Smoke Tobacco or Marijuana?  Is smoking a sin? What does the Bible teach? What have COG leaders written? Can smokers change? What about marijuana?
Marijuana: Should a Christian Get High? There is increasing acceptance of the use of marijuana. How should Christians view this? Here is a related video titled How Should a Christian View Marijuana?
Alcohol: Blessing or Curse? This is an article from the old Good News magazine that attempts to answer this question.
Binge Drinking, Health, and the Bible Many college students and others overindulge in alcohol. Are there health risks? What does the Bible teach? A related video is also available: Binge Drinking and the Bible.
Obesity, processed foods, health risks, and the Bible Does the Bible warn about the consequences of being obese? Is overeating dangerous? Is gluttony condemned? What diseases are associated with eating too much refined foods? A related video would be Eating Right, Eating Too Much, and Prophecy.
Why Does Man Suffer? Herbert Armstrong gives biblical reasons on this topic. I also wrote and added a section titled Suffering Has a Future Purpose.
Why Does God Allow Suffering? This is a pdf booklet put out by the old Worldwide Church of God that also answers questions about why God allows war as well as babies to die. Here is a link to a sermon titled Why YOU? Why Do YOU Suffer?
Are You Being Called by God? Norman Shoaf wrote various points to consider.
Is God Calling You? Alfred E Carrozzo wrote this.
What Did Christ Mean  Many Are Called, But Few Are Chosen? This article was by Raymond McNair.
Christian Repentance Do you know what repentance is? Is it really necessary for salvation? A related sermon is also available titled: Real Christian Repentance.
Do Christians Sin? This is an article by Herbert W. Armstrong.
Overcoming Sin What is sin? How are Christians suppose to overcome it? Here is also a link to a video titled How to Overcome Sin.
How to Prevent Sin This is an article by Herbert W. Armstrong.
Just What Do You Mean Conversion? Many think that they are converted Christians. But are they? Would you like to know more about conversion. Herbert W. Armstrong wrote this as a booklet on this important subject.
Real Conversion Many think that they are converted Christians. But are they? Would you like to know more about conversion?
False Conversion! Have you really been converted? Herbert W. Armstrong wrote an article on this important subject--but more scriptures have been added to it. How can you tell false conversion? A related video is also available: False Conversion.
All About Water Baptism What is baptism? Would you like to know more about it. Herbert W. Armstrong wrote this as a booklet on this important subject. As far as early history, see also Baptism and the Early Church.
God's Grace is For All Is being Jewish a hindrance to salvation? What about not being a descendant of Israel? What does the Bible really teach? Here is a link to a related sermon titled Race and Grace; Do you view race as God does?
Predestination: Did God really call You? Why? Predestination? Is your ultimate fate decided for you in advance? Here is a link to a related video sermon: Predestination: What it is and what it is not. Another related video is Predestination and Pentecost.
The Thyatira Church Era was predominant circa 1050 A.D. to circa 1600 A.D. The Church during the Inquisition.
The Sardis Church Era was predominant circa 1600 A.D. to circa 1933 A.D. Discusses early history of the Seventh Day Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, and COG-7th Day.
The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now basically the most faithful in the Church of God, like who hold to the beliefs and practices of the Continuing Church of God.
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. The Laodiceans are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG or its offshoots.  They do not properly understand the work or biblical prophecies and will face the Great Tribulation if they do not repent.

(PEOPLE would be stunned if they could really see the startling P significance behind today’s world happenings. It’s time you get your eyes opened to the staggering prophecies about the United States, and our West- ern World-events that are going to happen in the next 10 to 20 years. The handwriting is on the wall of America, Britain and Europe, now. This nation is being weighed in the balance and found wanting! The prophecies have not been under- stood. They’ve been a deep mystery. Even the prophet Daniel who wrote one of the important books of prophecy in the Bible didn’t understand all the prophecies that he wrote. NOT a Mere Child’s Story For centuries, it has been supposed that the account of Belshazzar’s feast was a mere child’s Bible story. But actually, IT IS A LAST-MINUTE MESSAGE STRAIGHT FROM GOD TO OUR PEOPLES TODAY, and it‘s a message and a.warning deal- ing with our national life, with your home, your family, the next 15 or 20 years. THIS IS A PROPHECY, and it’s a war%- ing for us, TODAY! It’s a red-hot stagger- ing warning for NOW-FOR OUR TIME! PT March 1956)