Declines of the False Apostle and False Prophet

Ronald Weinland Says His Books and His Interpretations of the Bible Are What He Wants Potential Supporters to Study. The COGwriter Site Instead Urges Those Interested in Him and End-Time Prophecies to Spend More Time Checking His Writings with the Bible.


Throughout 2008 I have documented and commented upon the declines of some who claim association with the COGs who are, in fact, false leaders.

From an internet perspective, probably the one with the greatest decline has been the self-appointed false apostle David Pack of the Restored Church of God. David Pack’s internet popularity may have peaked in November 2007 (see Quancast chart in the news item titled Decline of the False Apostle) when he told his followers to send him their assets, mortgage their properties, and cash out their retirements where possible (see the news item titled David Pack of the Restored Church of God Declares: “Go get those assets and get them here”).

Despite claims that his internet presence would grow to the next level in 2008, thus far this has not been the case. Notice the results from

The self-appointed false prophet Ronald Weinland, despite changing his positions and prophesies, still generates a lot of interest on the internet. According to it appears that Ronald Weinland’s internet interest peaked in April 2008, which is when he originally stated that the time, times, and half a time (1260 days) of Daniel would begin:

So a major drop in Ronald Weinland’s internet rankings has occurred.

And while he is still wildly popular on the internet, as he changes more he seems likely to lose followers as well as have a harder time retaining any. He has simply been wrong a lot –plus even in his sermon last week (see news item Ronald Weinland is Delusional) he still keeps going through his books as proof that he is correct, even though he taught until a couple of weeks ago that his books showed why the 1260 days begin on April 17, 2008.

I have repeatedly stated that I believe that Peter warned about leaders like Ronald Weinland and David Pack when he wrote:

2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber (2 Peter 2:1-3).

And it appears that the destruction of both has began, but how long until that is complete remains an unknown.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Why Not the Restored Church of God? This group, led by David Pack, claims to be the most faithful. The information in this article suggests otherwise.
Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up and that the end will come in 2008. Why is he a false prophet? He also has at least one other view that suggests that he is not part of the Church of God.

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