NATO meeting–Europeans want a military independent of the United States

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EuroNews reported the following:

‘We’ve listened to Trump’ on defence spending, Kaja Kallas tells Euronews at NATO summit

25 June 2025

The EU has “listened to President Trump” and “everyone is doing more” to boost European defence spending, High Representative for Foreign Affairs Kaja Kallas told Euronews Today as NATO leaders gather in the Hague on Wednesday for a landmark summit. … “President Trump has been calling for this for quite some time – that everybody should do more for their own defence, and Europe is stepping up, we definitely have listened to President Trump and everyone is doing more,” she said. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/06/25/weve-listened-to-trump-on-defence-spending-kaja-kallas-tells-euronews-at-nato-summit

While many want to think that NATO is strong, the German news source Deutsche Welle posted the following:

EU pushes for independent defense amid NATO strain

25 June 2025

… the EU is boosting defense with increased investment in manpower, funding and coordination among its 27 member states. But questions remain over its ability to carry out these plans amid tempered support from its US ally. https://www.dw.com/en/eu-pushes-for-independent-defense-amid-nato-strain/video-73032325

The BBC reported:

25 June 2025

Nato’s 32 member states have agreed to spend 5% of their GDP on defence and security by 2035, following months of pressure by US President Donald Trump. …

On Tuesday, as he was on his way to The Hague, Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One that there were “numerous definitions” of Nato’s Article 5. “I’m committed to being their friends. I’m going to give you an exact definition when I get there,” he said.

The comments won’t have gone unnoticed by Nato members. Nato’s Article 5 commits all members to come to the defence of each other if attacked – and if such a situation were to arise, it says each member would take “such action as it deems necessary”

Ever since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 European countries who have felt nervous about Moscow widening its ambitions to the rest of the continent have taken solace in the fact that any attack would trigger Article 5 – including a powerful American response.

So any hint that the US may be questioning the “definition” of Article 5 can spark real nervousness among Nato members. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cm2ld0e0rzkt

So, we see cracks in the NATO cohesiveness. While Donald Trump likely sees his comments and pressures on Europe as a success, the Europeans are concerned:

As far as Europe, military spending, and NATO goes, notice the following from my book available at Amazon Kindle: Unintended Consequences and Donald Trump’s Presidency: Is Donald Trump Fulfilling Biblical, Islamic, Greco-Roman Catholic, Buddhist, and other America-Related Prophecies? as well as Amazon print Unintended Consequences and Donald Trump’s Presidency: Is Donald Trump Fulfilling Biblical, Islamic, Greco-Roman Catholic, Buddhist, and other America-Related Prophecies?:

Historically, many powerful civilizations were destroyed through economic, military, health and moral decline. Will alliances like NATO remain helpful through these difficulties? At least 22 predictions/warnings I made about the first Donald Trump Administration were totally or at least partially fulfilled during his first term in office. … (p. 6)

The Bible teaches about a great power who will be destroyed by its friends, who become enemies (Lamentations 1:1-2)—some statements by Donald Trump are pushing “friends” (NATO allies) into being enemies. … (pp. 48-49)

Furthermore, at a conference in 2025, Herr Guttenberg referred to “bully Trump” and said Europe needed to be achieve an independent military defense so that it no longer needs to dependent on the USA (^{Winkler T. Geeint gegen den “Bully Trump.” MeinBezirk, January 9, 2025}). An unintended consequence of Donald Trump’s presidency may be the rise of Barron Guttenberg. (p. 56)

Now, another reality is that there are many in Europe that wanted Donald Trump to win the 2024 election as they believe that will help motivate Europe to arm itself and become more independent of the USA (p. 58)

Many in the USA do not seem to realize that once Europeans are spending more for their militaries, they will also expect to have more independence from the USA as to how military might will be used. (p. 63)

While PESCO is not yet capable of eliminating the USA, in 2024 it reportedly was helping lay the groundwork which is “leading to greater European strategic autonomy independent of the United States.” (p. 115)

Chapter 11 of the Book of Daniel discusses various leaders, including those known as the King of the North and the King of the South. The one who will be the King of the North is prophesied to rise up “When the transgressors have reached their fullness” (Daniel 8:23), which suggests that this is about when God has had enough of the increasing immorality in nations like the USA and its British-descended allies. … the King of the North will do things that he had not told the USA he would do; … (p. 119)

This King will employ deceit:

²¹ … he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue. (Daniel 11:21)

²³ “And in the latter time of their kingdom, When the transgressors have reached their fullness, A king shall arise, Having fierce features, Who understands sinister schemes. ²⁴ His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; He shall destroy fearfully, And shall prosper and thrive; He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people.

²⁵ “Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; And he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. (Daniel 8:23-25)

The King of the North will deceitfully proclaim “peace and safety” while plotting for the sudden destruction of those opposing him (1 Thessalonians 5:2–3). He will destroy the mighty American-British alliance.

Because of not accepting and understanding biblical prophecies, many political and other leaders will be hoping for and believing in a false peace. The sudden destruction to come is likely to include a nuclear or other high tech attack, and could possibly happen in conjunction with a NATO training or other exercise that would catch the USA and its Anglo-Saxon-Celtic allies off guard. Other nations are likely to also be involved.

The USA will be attacked by “friends” consistent with the following:

¹How lonely sits the city

That was full of people!

How like a widow is she,

Who was great among the nations!

The princess among the provinces

Has become a slave!

² She weeps bitterly in the night,

Her tears are on her cheeks;

Among all her lovers

She has none to comfort her.

All her friends have dealt treacherously with her;

They have become her enemies. cf. Lamentations 1:1-2).

Notice the one who was “great among the nations” will be conquered by friends, who will become enemies.

The USA was prophesied to be “great” in Genesis 48:19 and is considered by international sources to be great among the nations of the world today. … (pp. 139-141)

The time will come when the USA and NATO will be no more. NATO or other arrangements could give the Europeans cover for publicly preparing for a military event, while giving it the ability to publicly state that such preparations are only parts of an exercise. The Germans have historically used the element of surprise to gain military advantage—remember WWII and blitzkrieg? Europe one day will turn on the USA (Lamentations 1:1-2, Daniel 11:39; Isaiah 10:5-12). Weapons of mass destruction, and not necessarily just nuclear, will be employed. (p. 143)

While Donald Trump seems to believe that his policies are best for the United States, notice some unintended consequences of them: (p. 210)

Although, overall, the European nations have not paid for their defense to the amount they have suggested they would, pressuring them to spend more will 1) encourage them to be independent of the USA and 2) put Europe in a position where it has a great army (Daniel 11:25), many ships (Daniel 11:40), and access to nuclear weapons (cf. Deuteronomy 29:23-25; Isaiah 9:19-21;Ezekiel 6:6), which will help it conquer the USA, which is the military power with the strongest fortresses (cf. Daniel 11:39). (pp. 211-212)

Unintended consequences of Donald Trump’s statements and actions include the fact that Europe is arming, plans to arm more, wants to be militarily independent of the USA, and is not pleased with Donald Trump or the USA.

One day Europe will conquer the USA per biblical prophecies such as Daniel 11:39 and Isaiah 10:5-11.

For over a decade, I have warned that Europe may attack the USA under the guise of a NATO or some other military-related exercise. The Bible tells us that this coming European leader ²¹ … shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue. (Daniel 11:21). That is consistent with what I have long warned.

Arguments with NATO, or even the possible withdrawing of the USA from NATO, will NOT end up well for the USA.

While Europe publicly is still supportive of NATO, in the end Europe will betray the NATO members of the USA, Canada, and UK.

By pushing the Europeans to spend more on their militaries (which the Obama, Biden, and Trump Adminstrations have all done), the USA and UK have been ‘sowing wind,’ but will reap the whirlwind:

6 … But the calf of Samaria shall be broken to pieces.

7 “They sow the wind,
And reap the whirlwind.
The stalk has no bud;
It shall never produce meal.
If it should produce,
Aliens would swallow it up.
8 Israel is swallowed up;
Now they are among the Gentiles
Like a vessel in which is no pleasure.
9 For they have gone up to Assyria,
Like a wild donkey alone by itself;
Ephraim has hired lovers. (Hosea 8:6-9)

The reference to ‘Samaria’ above refers to the USA (see Spiritual Samaritans: Old and New) and the reference to Ephraim above refers to the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (for biblically-related details, check out the article Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel). Assyria is a reference to a European power based out of central Europe (for biblically-related details, check out the article Germany in Biblical Prophecy).

Europe will need to reorganize, but the Bible tells of at least two more reorganizations to come in Europe in Revelation 17:2-13 (see also Must the Ten Kings of Revelation 17:12 Rule over Ten Currently Existing Nations?).

While some do not believe that Europe wants to destroy the USA or is capable of rising up to take over the USA, Canada, and the UK, consider the following two portions of scripture:

5 “Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger
And the staff in whose hand is My indignation.
6 I will send him against an ungodly nation,
And against the people of My wrath
I will give him charge,
To seize the spoil, to take the prey,
And to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
7 Yet he does not mean so,
Nor does his heart think so;
But it is in his heart to destroy,
And cut off not a few nations.
8 For he says,
‘Are not my princes altogether kings?
9 Is not Calno like Carchemish?
Is not Hamath like Arpad?
Is not Samaria like Damascus?
10 As my hand has found the kingdoms of the idols,
Whose carved images excelled those of Jerusalem and Samaria,
11 As I have done to Samaria and her idols,
Shall I not do also to Jerusalem and her idols?'” (Isaiah 10:5-11)

2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him? (Revelation 13:2-4)

The Bible shows that the European power (called Assyria in Isaiah 10; see also Germany in Biblical Prophecy) does not think it intends to be militaristic, but that it will and will conquer. The Bible shows that the world will marvel that Europe was able to be such a military power as Europe basically had been dismissed as irrelevant.

It is quite likely that some version of NATO will survive, but that Europe will use NATO as a shield from Russia, and eventually turn against the USA and its Anglo-Saxon descended allies. That will essentially be a fulfillment of the following:

1 How lonely sits the city That was full of people! How like a widow is she, Who was great among the nations! The princess among the provinces Has become a slave!

2 She weeps bitterly in the night, Her tears are on her cheeks; Among all her lovers She has none to comfort her. All her friends have dealt treacherously with her; They have become her enemies. (Lamentations 1:1-2)

That will be the end of NATO and the USA.

For those that think this could not happen to the USA, recall that Daniel 11:39 shows that a European power will destroy the ‘strongest fortresses’–which in the 21st century belong to the USA, this shows that the USA will be defeated, despite its military strength (see also USA in Prophecy: The Strongest Fortresses).

As far as Europe shifting to be to be more independent of the USA in trade and in military matters, we just uploaded the following related video:

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European Union wants military independence from the USA

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