CGPFKG’s Ronald Weinland’s 3 1/2 Days, 3 1/2 Years, Two Witnesses Not Dying



In his sermon of April 21, 2012 (a transcript of which is now up and used here) CGPFK/CGPKG’s Ronald Weinland said the following:

We’re going to begin by reading the last portion of that which God speaks concerning
His two witnesses at the end-time and it’s found in Revelation 11…and this is about the work, this is
about what has been going on for nearly 3½ years, this is about what God is doing – but epitomized, or
typified, if you will, in two individuals lives.

Revelation 11:7 –And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast who ascends out of the
bottomless pit – interesting, we just talked about that in another sermon – God gave us a little more
understanding of these things and the timing of some of these things and what it means… the beast
who ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill
them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great City, which is spiritually called Sodom
and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindred’s and tongues and
nations shall see their dead bodies three and one half days, and shall not allow their dead bodies to
be put in graves. And they who dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them and make merry and
shall send gifts to one another; because these two prophets tormented them who dwelt on the earth.
And after three and a half days the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon
their feet; and great fear fell upon them who saw them.

This is where the sermon is going. The two witnesses will not be killed in the literal city of Jerusalem and their dead bodies will not lie in the streets for 3½ days. God’s two witnesses will live right up to Jesus Christ’s coming to this earth as King of kings. This three and a half days spoken of here about the two witnesses is fully about the past nearly three and one half years, what we have been living, of Christ’s final ministry of 3½ days and those things He is doing in the Body, the Church of God; and this is not good news to Satan.

Notice the following from the Bible about the 3 1/2 days and the bodies of the two witnesses:

8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. 10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth. 11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. (Revelation 11:8-12)

If the 3 1/2 days are supposedly referring to the last 3 1/2 years, then why has the world not been celebrating this “death” that Ronald Weinland is now referring to?

That is easy to explain: His explanation is all false nonsense.

For those unfamiliar with him, Ronald Weinland was a minister in the old old Worldwide Church of God, then he was in the United Church of God for a while. Since then, he has been on his own.   He claims that he is one of the two witnesses and that his wife is the other one.  After first insisting that the Great Tribulation began on April 17, 2008, he later insisted that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008 and that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012 (these are his last published dates). The Great Tribulation has most definitely not yet started (we seem to be in the time period that Jesus referred to as “the beginning of sorrows” Matthew 24:8), and Jesus most definitely will not be returning on May 27, 2012.  So, when he is wrong then (if not before), Ronald Weinland will either repent, spiritualize away the non-return of Jesus, and/or claim to have received a new “revelation” or “truth” that gives humanity more time or something to that effect.

In that same 4/21/12 sermon, Ronald Weinland also stated:

Of which things we can also speak, and not in the words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the
holy spirit teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. This is what we’re doing today!…we compare spiritual things with spiritual. Because as God gives more – as an example, the 3½ days, the seven days prophecy in Daniel. Half of it was fulfilled by Christ by the time He died. We can see that, 3½ years of His ministry as He solidified, strengthened that truth, if you will, with many, the covenant with many during that ministry. And then we see the other 3½ days and we build upon it, we add to it… When we started going through Daniel and God gave understanding that the seventy-weeks was fully about something to do with a period of time not in the first coming of Christ, but Christ’s second coming. I had no idea where those verses were going!

Two comments about the above.  The first is that Ronald Weinland continues his pattern of trying to teach that more and more things are spiritual so his followers will keep following him, despite the lack of signs that Jesus said were necessary for the Great Tribulation to begin and for Jesus to return (Matthew 24:9-30).  When Jesus does not come three weeks from tomorrow, Ron Weinland will have to admit it and/or spiritualize it away.

The second comment is that Ronald Weinland, “I had no idea where those verses were going!” statement, while true, seems to greatly differ some some of what Ronald Weinland has claimed about himself in the past:

God will reveal who His two witnesses are regardless of whether people choose to believe them or not! God will increasingly give more proof of His spokesman as prophecies unfold exactly as they are recorded in this book

The question about how God has revealed His truth to me is a fair one. The answer that I am who I say I am will be given by the events described in both books coming true exactly as I have described. (Weinland R. 2008: God’s Final Witness, pp. 89-90,111)

Notice also what Ronald Weinland wrote about the two witnesses dying:

It is now with boldness, confidence and great clarity that I give to you what God has given me. I am to announce, through God’s direct revelation, that I am one of those two witnesses. The other witness will be revealed to the world during the time of the great tribulation—within the final three and one-half years of man’s era. During that period of time, we will, together, completely fulfill all that God has given us to witness to this whole earth. Then, at the end, we will die in the streets of Jerusalem; and finally, exactly three and one-half days later, we will be resurrected (Revelation 11). The world will see this resurrection via television. At this same time Jesus Christ will appear in the heavens above the earth as He is returning to take the reigns of man’s government on earth. (Weinland R. 2008: God’s Final Witness, p. 16)

So this verse clearly shows that these two anointed ones of God have a specific time to do the primary thrust of their work. They know the exact day that Jesus Christ will return because they know their final work will last exactly 1,260 days. It is exactly at this point that they will be killed…

These two prophets of God will complete the work that God has given them to do, then they will be killed in the streets of Jerusalem. Their bodies will remain in the streets of Jerusalem for three and one-half days while the world watches via television. Then the unbelievable will happen. Many in the world, who still will not believe they are whom they say they are, will receive a very rude awakening. After all, if they remain dead beyond three and one-half days, then they cannot be of God.

After three and one-half days the Spirit of life from God entered into them [the two witnesses] and they stood upon their feet. Then great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, “Come up here.” And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud and their enemies saw this happening to them. (Revelation 11:11-12)

These two prophets of God are resurrected from the dead, in the sight of all who are watching, and rise up into the heavens of the atmosphere of this earth. It is in this same time-frame that a massive resurrection of 144,000 also rise to meet Jesus Christ. The 144,000 will return with Christ on this same day after the seven last plagues are poured out upon the earth. It is at the beginning of this same day that the return of Jesus Christ becomes visible to the whole world. (Weinland R. 2008: God’s Final Witness, pp. 22-23)

It is completely clear to those of us who read and understand the English language that Ronald Weinland published that he was going to actually die in Jerusalem and that this death would be covered on television with the world watching–the world has not been watching him on television that last 3 1/2 years as he now is twisting the scriptures to mean. Furthermore, I recall hearing Ronald Weinland state in a sermon or radio interview in 2008 that he would die in Jerusalem–and he meant it literally then.  And yet, when I checked his travel schedule today, he did not list being in Jerusalem on the last Sabbath of this month (which is where he would need to be–perhaps he will decide to go there as part of his developing game plan as Jesus is not coming this month).

Now getting back to his 4/21/12 sermon, here are the last several words in it:

…those who have been a part of God’s true Church who are asleep, but a judgement that has come upon them and what they have been doing and their attitude basically toward God and toward God’s true Church for the past 3½ years.

So what is the above supposed to mean?  Basically, Ronald Weinland has denounced his critics and those in the COGs for not supporting him.  He has in the past pronounced curses on his critics and certain COG leaders which (originally were supposed to have started about 4 years ago) still have not come to pass.  Apparently Ronald Weinland is now trying to tell his followers that those outside their group are about to face a special round of God’s judgment in May 2012.  This is also nonsense on Ronald Weinland’s part and apparently is intended to keep his followers motivated.

I have denounced Ronald Weinland as a false prophet for over six years. And for every detail I have denounced, I have been right and he wrong. Cannot his followers see that he is not one of God’s two witnesses?

Will they learn what they should by the end of May or continue to allow Ronald Weinland and/or others like him to string them along?

A few articles of possible interest related to prophecy may include:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, and that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012. Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? Why do Ronald Weinland’s own statements prove that he is a false prophet? Additionally, he has other views which show he is not truly part of the Church of God.?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2012, 2013, or 2014? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 Who is 666? This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping taught that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world would end on October 21, 2011. What does the Bible show?
The Gospel of the Kingdom of God was the Emphasis of Jesus and the Early Church Did you know that? Do you even know what the gospel of the kingdom is all about? True religion should be based upon the true gospel.
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? Are there Mayan calendar predictions for change in 2012? Changes were centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradamus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012? How might Barack Obama and Julia Gillard be involved in 2012?

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