CGPFKG’s Ronald Weinland Now Declares the Two Witnesses Do Not Die!



In his sermon today in Australia, according to Mike at Don’t Drink the Flavor Aid, CGPFK/CGPKG’s Ronald Weinland said the following:

The two witnesses will not be killed in the literal city of Jerusalem.  And their dead bodies will not lie in the streets for 3 1/2 days.  God’s two witnesses will live right up to the coming of Jesus Christ, coming to this earth as the king of kings.  This 3 1/2 days spoken of here about the two witnesses is fully about the past nearly 3 1/2 years, what we have been living.

Notice the following from the Bible about the 3 1/2 days and the bodies of the two witnesses:

8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. 10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.  11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. (Revelation 11:8-12)

If the 3 1/2 days are supposedly referring to the last 3 1/2 years, then why has the world not been celebrating this “death” that Ronald Weinland is now referring to?

That is easy to explain: His explanation is all false nonsense.

Notice that last Sunday (see Ronald Weinland’s 6 6 6), I posted the following about him (but today I have bolded some statements below for emphasis):

Here is what Ronald Weinland himself has claimed about himself and the related scriptures in Revelation:

It is now with boldness, confidence and great clarity that I give to you what God has given me. I am to announce, through God’s direct revelation, that I am one of those two witnesses. The other witness will be revealed to the world during the time of the great tribulation—within the final three and one-half years of man’s era. During that period of time, we will, together, completely fulfill all that God has given us to witness to this whole earth. Then, at the end, we will die in the streets of Jerusalem; and finally, exactly three and one-half days later, we will be resurrected (Revelation 11). The world will see this resurrection via television. At this same time Jesus Christ will appear in the heavens above the earth as He is returning to take the reigns of man’s government on earth. (Weinland R. 2008: God’s Final Witness, p. 16)

So this verse clearly shows that these two anointed ones of God have a specific time to do the primary thrust of their work. They know the exact day that Jesus Christ will return because they know their final work will last exactly 1,260 days. It is exactly at this point that they will be killed:

And when they [the two witnesses] shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit [Satan through his influence on men] shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified [in Jerusalem]. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three and one-half days [via television], and their dead bodies shall not be allowed to be put in graves. (Revelation 11:7-9)

These two prophets of God will complete the work that God has given them to do, then they will be killed in the streets of Jerusalem. Their bodies will remain in the streets of Jerusalem for three and one-half days while the world watches via television. Then the unbelievable will happen. Many in the world, who still will not believe they are whom they say they are, will receive a very rude awakening. After all, if they remain dead beyond three and one-half days, then they cannot be of God.

After three and one-half days the Spirit of life from God entered into them [the two witnesses] and they stood upon their feet. Then great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, “Come up here.” And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud and their enemies saw this happening to them. (Revelation 11:11-12)

These two prophets of God are resurrected from the dead, in the sight of all who are watching, and rise up into the heavens of the atmosphere of this earth. It is in this same time-frame that a massive resurrection of 144,000 also rise to meet Jesus Christ. The 144,000 will return with Christ on this same day after the seven last plagues are poured out upon the earth. It is at the beginning of this same day that the return of Jesus Christ becomes visible to the whole world. (Weinland R. 2008: God’s Final Witness, pp. 22-23)

Unless they kill themselves or accidentally die or somehow get killed, it is likely that Ron and Laura will have a type of spiritual death (at minimum for being wrong). And perhaps this will be how Ron Weinland might spin this. He may then claim that there is more “new truth” like that he and Laura were spiritually resurrected, God has granted the world more time as it did not get enough of a witness, 7000 died spiritually (unless there happens to be a killer earthquake and he claims this is the one physical event that proves his spiritualizing away of other events), etc.

Ronald Weinland has had a history of trying to “spiritualize” away his errors, while trying to point to anything physical that might be spun as fulfilling prophecy.

Whether or not my post motivated him to realize that he had to change his position about him and his wife (who he claims is the other of the two witnesses) is unclear.  What is clear is that I was correct that he would spiritualize this death away if he did not repent.  And that is what he has done.

It is completely clear to those of us who read and understand the English language that Ronald Weinland published that he was going to actually die in Jerusalem and that this death would be covered on television with the world watching–the world has not been watching him on television that last 3 1/2 years as he now is twisting the scriptures to mean.  Furthermore, I recall hearing Ronald Weinland state in a sermon or radio interview in 2008 that he would die in Jerusalem–and he meant it literally then.

Notice, also, in his book that he wrote:

God will reveal who His two witnesses are regardless of whether people choose to believe them or not! God will increasingly give more proof of His spokesman as prophecies unfold exactly as they are recorded in this book

The question about how God has revealed His truth to me is a fair one. The answer that I am who I say I am will be given by the events described in both books coming true exactly as I have described. (Weinland R. 2008: God’s Final Witness, pp. 89-90,111)

His book states that he will die in Jerusalem, stay dead for 3 1/2 days, and the world will see him and his other witness resurrected on television.   Yet, now he says that is not going to happen.  He NOW says that the 3 1/2 days means three and a half years.  According to his own testimony it should be clear that he is a false prophet and not one of God’s two witnesses.

For those unfamiliar with him, Ronald Weinland was a minister in the old old Worldwide Church of God, then he was in the United Church of God for a while. Since then, he has been on his own.

After first insisting that the Great Tribulation began on April 17, 2008, he later insisted that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008 and that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012 (these are his last published dates).  The Great Tribulation has most definitely not yet started (we seem to be in the time period that Jesus referred to as “the beginning of sorrows” Matthew 24:8), and Jesus most definitely will not be returning on May 27, 2012.  So, when he is wrong then (if not before), Ronald Weinland will either repent, spiritualize away the non-return of Jesus, and/or claim to have received a new “revelation” or “truth” that gives humanity more time or something to that effect.

Like Harold Camping last year, Ronald Weinland has repeatedly spiritualized away literal scriptures and is a false prophet.

I have denounced Ronald Weinland as a false prophet for over six years.  And for every detail I have denounced, I have been right and he wrong.  Cannot his followers see that he is not one of God’s two witnesses?

A few articles of possible interest related to prophecy may include:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, and that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012. Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? Why do Ronald Weinland’s own statements prove that he is a false prophet? Additionally, he has other views which show he is not truly part of the Church of God.?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2012, 2013, or 2014? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 Who is 666? This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping taught that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world would end on October 21, 2011. What does the Bible show?
The Gospel of the Kingdom of God was the Emphasis of Jesus and the Early Church Did you know that? Do you even know what the gospel of the kingdom is all about? True religion should be based upon the true gospel.
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? Are there Mayan calendar predictions for change in 2012? Changes were centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradamus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012? How might Barack Obama and Julia Gillard be involved in 2012?

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