Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg writes about US fiscal cliff and leadership

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (World Economic Forum)


Former German Defense Minister, Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg made the news by co-writing the following that is in the Huffington Post:

During the election campaign, President Obama repeatedly spoke about the need to renew the U.S. global leadership position…recent events in U.S. society may serve as examples. Two incidents that bear the potential to impact the global image and therefore also European perception of the U.S….

The first such event is America’s handling of the fiscal cliff. Yes, markets recorded a massive single-day gain after Congress found a last-minute deal to avoid the ominous cliff. But global trust has not been gained, though. This finding is not only due to the assumption that the agreement has only deferred the most relevant issues. Aside from an inflationary described and yet unresolved debt and budget crisis, the U.S. also faces a general crisis of international understanding. Europeans feel they are hostage to an economic event, which they have zero sway over, but which will continue to effect global markets, thus their economic perspectives. Obviously, there is little understanding why the latest solution didn’t reach further than to the next showdown in Congress…

The other event, entirely different, is the recent wave of gun violence, and the responses to it. The Newtown massacre has sent shivers through the publics in Europe…Many Europeans see the discussion after the terrible shooting in Connecticut as further signs of America and Europe drifting apart.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andras-simonyi/explaining-the-fiscal-cli_b_2434139.html

Why could this be of prophetic interest?

There are three to touch on here.

The first is that the world in general, and the Europeans in particular, are starting to see the USA as a power that cannot even take more than the minimum steps towards economic stability and leadership.

The more this concerns the Europeans, the more likely they will turn inwardly.

The second is that Europe is realizing that it has less and less in common with the USA and hence this is another reason to turn inwardly.

And the Bible tells of a power that will again arise out of Europe.

How can you be sure that this will be a European empire?  Well in addition to prophecies in Daniel 9:26-27 (see
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin?), the Bible teaches that this empire has connections to a particular sea. Notice:

1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” (Revelation 13:1-4)

2 Daniel spoke, saying, “I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the Great Sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.   5 “And suddenly another beast, a second, like a bear. It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. And they said thus to it: ‘Arise, devour much flesh!’   6 “After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.  7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.  (Daniel 7:2-8)

The “Great Sea” that bordered the ancient lands of Israel (Joshua 9:1; 23:4; Ezekiel 47:13-16) is the Mediterranean Sea–and that is the sea that Daniel was referring to.  Despite some false claims by some, the Beast power is not a nation like Russia, which does not border the Mediterranean Sea, but Europe which does.  A comparison of the beasts in Revelation 13 and Daniel 7 shows that they share many of the same characteristics.

Europe is the power that will control the “Great Sea.”  And while the southern border of the Mediterranean Sea is currently under Arab control, the Bible shows that the King of the North will take over the Arab powers (Daniel 11:40-43; Ezekiel 30:1-9).

What is the third reason that the news item cited at the beginning of this post has prophetic interest?

The third has to do with the fact that co-writer Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg himself has the potential to lead this upcoming European beast power.  And he is dropping hints about a separation of Europe from the U.S.A.

While most in the media realize that Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, who was formerly the Economics and then Defense Minister for Germany, was disgraced by a plagiarism scandal that cost him his Ph.D. and persuaded him to leave politics for a time, few are aware that a disgraced individual is apparently one who will become the final King of the North of biblical prophecy.

Bible prophecy warns about a leader who was rejected and seemingly comes out of nowhere who will rise up and lead Europe per Daniel 11:21-44. One verse to focus on is verse 21. Here are four translations of it from Catholic and Protestant sources:

21 And there shall stand up in his place one despised, and the kingly honour shall not be given him: and he shall come privately, and shall obtain the kingdom by fraud. (Daniel 11:21, Douay-Rheims)

21 “‘His place will be taken by a reject, a man spurned and passed over for advancement. He’ll surprise everyone, seemingly coming out of nowhere, and will seize the kingdom. (Daniel 11:21 from THE MESSAGE: The Bible in Contemporary Language © 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson. All rights reserved.)

21 And in his place shall stand up a contemptible person, to whom they had not given the honor of the kingdom: but he shall come in time of security, and shall obtain the kingdom by flatteries. (Daniel 11:21, ASV)

21 ‘And stood up on his station hath a despicable one, and they have not given unto him the honour of the kingdom, and he hath come in quietly, and hath strengthened the kingdom by flatteries. (Daniel 11:21, Young’s Literal Translation)

As regular readers know, I have wondered if former German Defense Minister Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg was a candidate to possibly be the final King of the North of Daniel 11 and Beast of Revelation. The fact that he has had problems, is out of political office, and has been rejected by various ones is consistent with biblical and other predictions. He has confirmed seven speculative predictions after I posted them (for details see Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North?). It should be understood that just because he fulfilled various predictions does not prove that he must be the final King of the North. But they certainly give me reason, combined with biblical and other prophetic sources to consider that he could fulfill that role or at least aid the one who will have it.

So, he remains one to watch.

Of course, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg could simply be a somewhat politician with many ups and downs. And all his intentions could be fine, despite him being repeatedly insulted. We will see.

Perhaps it should be noted that Europe has a population that is roughly the same size as the USA and Russia combined. Europe has probably the most cutting edge physics and other researchers in the world, and has (on a combined basis) the largest economy in the world (by some measures it is second, but others show it first)–and the final King of the North/Beast power will be a military (Revelation 13:4; Daniel 11:39-43) and economic (Revelation 13:16-18) power.

Might Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg later rise up out of his current state of semi-obscurity and lead it, or at least assist in the process?  And if so, what may this mean for the USA and its Anglo-descended allies?

A conquered and divided land (Daniel 11:39).

“And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch!” (Mark 13:37)

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? What MUST happen BEFORE the Great Tribulation?
Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Is the former German Defense Minister (who is also the former German Minister for Economics and Technology) one to watch? What do Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest?
Is Russia the King of the North? Some claim it is. But what does the Bible teach?
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, English, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo (non-Dutch) Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? What will happen to Jerusalem and the Jews in Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?
Will the Anglo-Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves? Will the lands of the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand be divided? What about Jerusalem? What does Bible prophecy teach? Are there non-biblical prophecies that support this idea? Who will divide those lands? Who will end up with the lands and the people?

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