Ronald Weinland’s ‘Prophecy’ for Jesus to Return in 13 Weeks Will Change



According to CGPFK/CGPKG’s Ronald Weinland Jesus is to return 13 weeks from today:

And so because of the 50th Truth and the understanding that God has given us of Christ’s return on Pentecost, May 27, 2012 we also came to understand the true date for the sealing of the 144,000 that was to precede Christ’s reign by 1335 days – which again is covered in the book of Daniel at the end of those verses that we were reading earlier…

And so from this God revealed that the opening of the 7th Seal was about Daniel’s 1290 days making this great occasion to be November 14, 2008 – when the 7th Seal was opened…

So the 1st Trumpet sounded on December 14, 2008 and no immediate evidence was given to the world that the 1st Trumpet had sounded and for some that caused some consternation. (Weinland R. More Time, Pt. 1 Sermon, June 26, 2010)

But God’s righteous judgment must NOW be executed in order for His Kingdom to be established at the coming of His Son on May 27, 2012 (Weinland R. Online letter, February 25, 2011)

Jesus will not be returning thirteen weeks from today.  It is not possible for Jesus to return that soon, nor did the 1335 days begin on September 30, 2008, the 7th seal beginning the 1290 days, or the 1st Trumpet (which for him started the 1260 days of the Great Tribulation) begin on December 14, 2008.

In his sermon today, instead of denouncing himself, he states that the picture is clearer now, is exciting, and he has been learning more.  But the reality is that it should be clear that he is wrong, not that he could possibly be right.  He gave those listening to him in the audience charts, which try to justify Ronald Weinland’s timing on the second coming.  He rambles on about numbers that often do not line up as Ronald Weinland interpreted–he reminds me more and more of Harold Camping who had false understandings of numerical calculations as well.  Ronald Weinland claims that God gave the understandings of the 1335 days, 70 weeks prophecy, Jesus’ return of May 27, 2012, etc.  He also claimed that the prophecies about the man of sin doing signs and lying wonders is not still to happen that it happened spiritually–essentially through the late Joseph Tkach.  But that is all false.

Notice also what Jesus said:

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. (Matthew 24:15-22)

When will Ronald Weinland’s followers realize that the period since December 14, 2008 has not met Jesus’ criteria as Ronald Weinland has falsely claimed.  In his 2/25/12 sermon, he basically also claims that it is an error to expect physical/literal interpretations of much of end time prophecy.

Ronald Weinland has had a history of trying to “spiritualize” away his errors.  Notice also the following from his 2/11/12 sermon on the five months of Revelation (bolding in official transcript):

Verse 4 – And it was commanded them they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men, speaking of people, who have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Verse 5 – And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion when he strikes a man. And in/within, as it is in the Greek language, in those days shall men/people seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die and death shall flee from them. What an incredible way of writing something! What on earth can you be talking about? Well, we’ll come back to these verses later.

Now, 13 weeks is about three months.  Hence the above five-month period would have had to start by now as Ronald Weinland has everything related to the Great Tribulation being over by May 27, 2012.  So, instead of it being literally to be fulfilled, in the same 2/11/12 sermon, he explained it as follows:

Before we do that I want to start reading here beginning on page 125 of ‘2008 – God’s Final Witness’.
God’s Church

At the same time all these events come together at the sounding of the Fifth Trumpet,
there will be an initial period of [a] time (five months) when much human suffering will
continue as a result of the first four trumpets.

Be careful what you read into this; it’s easy to do – truly is.

At the same time all these events come together at the sounding of the Fifth Trumpet…
Not all the events described in Revelation 9:1-11 come together fully when the Trumpet finally sounds.
That’s when they all come together. By this time you’ll have the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Trumpets all to have
blown, the 5th Trumpet will blow and all the things described here will all come together, finally, at this
moment in time. It says…

…there will be an initial period of time (five months) when much human suffering will
continue as a result of the first four trumpets.

So please understand what’s being said here…

Continuing on page 125:

This marks a time of great suffering on a worldwide scale, but even now, God’s Church
is still part of these prophetic events. God’s Church still exists on [the] earth…

And so people are just waiting on the suffering; it will come. Why speed it along?…So as I mentioned last Sabbath, we are in that five month period of time, it already began, it’s ongoing right now…

It has to do with what we believe and what God has shown within the Church, what is stated, what is
written, what we all believe, what God has put out front.

Those of the scattered Church of God, who are tormented during [or meaning within]…

Because you don’t have to be tormented for five months! That’s not what it’s about! And when you
understand what this torment is it puts everything in a proper perspective.

Those in the scattered Church of God, who are tormented during this five-month period…

What I’m trying to show here is don’t read something into this. It doesn’t mean people have to be
tormented for a full five months; it might be five minutes, it might be five hours, it might be five days, it
might be five weeks, but it doesn’t have to be for the full five months!

Basically, Ronald Weinland is claiming that although the Bible tells of a five month period, that the period has not really started yet, and it will be less than five months, and maybe only five minutes.  Well, there is only three months left and it has not began, so why would God have five-months inspired to be written if He did not mean that?

In his March 12, 2011 sermon, he claimed.

So, if I’m not a prophet I’ll reason with you accordingly and be open with you about it…

So often for those who do not believe that I’m a prophet, the question is asked, “What will you do if these things do not come to pass?” And I’m going to answer that more fully in this particular sermon today…

So again, some cannot wait for me to say that I am not a prophet, or to say that I am a false prophet. Indeed, no one has long to wait do they? Isn’t that amazing? May 27, 2012 is not too far away and if Europe hasn’t risen by early 2012 and if China does not begin destroying the earth before that date, then the reality would be manifest much sooner, obviously. You don’t have to wait until 2012.

As far as the question they ask; what would I do? Well, first I’d repent before God and the Church. I’d acknowledge my sin and pray that God have mercy upon me for being so horribly presumptuous. Candidly (and some are going to really hate hearing this), I’d deeply repent of all those things that concern prophecies that I have given in the office of a prophet BUT I’d seek to hold fast to all that I believe with all my being to be true concerning the word of God. I would begin to go back through all 57 Truths (and I’d hope others would do exactly the same thing), IF… just to be open about it. I’d go back through all 57 Truths and eliminate those that are shown to be untrue, repenting as I did so; but I would hold fast to all that I believed to be true. (Weinland R. A Final Plea, With Judgment – Pt. 1. March 12, 2011)

Europe has not risen up and China is not destroying the earth (beyond pollution, etc.), thus according to Ronald Weinland, he, already, should: ” acknowledge my sin and pray that God have mercy upon me for being so horribly presumptuous.” Instead, about six weeks ago he posted:

As a matter of other dates that God revealed to me, through Jesus Christ, it was given earlier that Trumpets of 2008 was the beginning of the 1335 day count in the Book of Daniel that leads up to the return of Jesus Christ on May 27, 2012. The day of Christ’s return is on Pentecost which pictures the 144,000 who will return with him to reign on earth, and the beginning of this announcement to the Church was on Trumpets (2008) which announces the coming of the Messiah as King of kings. How awesome is that to understand? (Weinland R. Seventy Weeks Prophecy. Online letter, January 12, 2012)

Cannot his followers see his blatant errors and refusal to again publicly repent?

Of course, the facts have not stopped those who still follow him (they have stopped some from following him in the past and hopefully when Jesus does not return on May 27, 2012, most of his current followers will wake up to the truth). Ronald Weinland either will publicly repent near then or claim that God has been merciful and given more time–perhaps he will claim one or more new “truths.” But no matter what he says, Ronald Weinland is not God’s prophet nor one of the two witnesses.

I have been warning about Ronald Weinland for over six years now and have been correct about him being wrong every time I have posted about him. Perhaps his remaining followers will wake up and realize the truth here?

For those unfamiliar with him, Ronald Weinland was a minister in the old old Worldwide Church of God, then he was in the United Church of God for a while. Since then, he has been on his own.

The Bible teaches:

20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 “And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’– 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:19-22).

Ronald Weinland will also, no later that May 28, 2012 be proven wrong that Jesus, according to him, is supposed to return on May, 27, 2012.

More will have to change with Ronald Weinland.  He will have to change his explanations as he is running of out time.  Perhaps he will keep his word this time, admit his error, and repent.  Perhaps he will do something like Seventh-day Adventist Ellen White and claim that Jesus somehow came spiritually.  Ronald Weinland may also claim that the Great Tribulation was spiritual.  Or say something that we all should be grateful that the merciful God has given the world/church more time as He has granted more grace.

We will see how Ron Weinland handles his error this time.  But no matter what he says and does, Jesus will NOT return in 2012.

A few articles of possible interest related to prophecy may include:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, and that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012. Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? Why do Ronald Weinland’s own statements prove that he is a false prophet? Additionally, he has other views which show he is not truly part of the Church of God.?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2012, 2013, or 2014? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping taught that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world would end on October 21, 2011. What does the Bible show?
The Gospel of the Kingdom of God was the Emphasis of Jesus and the Early Church Did you know that? Do you even know what the gospel of the kingdom is all about? True religion should be based upon the true gospel.
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? Are there Mayan calendar predictions for change in 2012? Changes were centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradamus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012? How might Barack Obama and Julia Gillard be involved in 2012?

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