When Will Ronald Weinland Change His Dates Again?



In 2007, I once commented that probably by the Fall Holy Days in 2008, Ronald Weinland would change his dates and predictions related to 2008.

And he did.  For those unfamiliar with him, I should probably mention that Ronald Weinland is a former UCG minister who claims to be one of the two witnesses.  He has made various false prophecies and is now also unitarian.

Ronald Weinland once claimed that the 1335 days of Daniel 12 began on February 2, 2008 (see Ronald Weinland Announced When He Claims Jesus Will Return).   Because of this, in his 3/15/08 sermon  he taught, “September 29, 2011, Jesus Christ returns”.  He later said that those people had not seen the start of the countdown of days, such as his statements that the Great Tribulation began on April 17, 2008, did not have proper spiritual discernment as the events were more of a spiritual nature (see Ronald Weinland Does an Interview Again and Ronald Weinland Changes and Delays, But Without Apology).  And he stuck with those dates (though not all the details as he originally portrayed them) until the Summer of 2008.

In the Summer of 2008, he changed his dates claiming that the 1335 days started on September 30, 2008, and the 1260 days on December 14, 2008.

Now supposedly, the “Great Tribulation”, according to Ronald Weinland’s church began on December 14, 2008.  Based upon that start date, the Great Tribulation is supposedly over 1/2 over–this is nonsense.

Yet, his church website teaches:

1260 Days: The blowing of the first Trumpet will occur/occurred on the 14th of December, 2008. This is the beginning of the Great Tribulation and 3 1/2 years until the return of Jesus Christ on the day of Pentecost. The beginning of the fall of the USA and other Israelite countries begins from the start of the 1260 days (FAQ–Timeline Questions Answered.  viewed 2/25/09).

To seemingly distance himself from the Bible, Ronald Weinland tried to use a different term:

We’re not calling it the great tribulation, it is the great tribulation, but it is not great, yet…We do set dates (Weinland R. Our Commission, Pt. 3. Sermon, February 21, 2009).

How can Ronald Weinland disagree with Jesus’ words and say that the Great Tribulation was not “great” while Ronald Weinland claims that it already is in progress?

And while there has been certain economic concerns and natural disasters, the period since December 14, 2008 does not qualify as the time Jesus talked about:

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.  22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. (Matthew 24:21-22)

Since the events required during the 1260 days (like the persecution of the saints per Daniel 7:25) have not happened yet, eventually Ronald Weinland will likely make more adjustments.

While we could be at the time that Jesus referred to as “the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:8, see also Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2010, 2011, or 2012?), the persecution that is to occur between that (vs. 9) and the Great Tribulation (vs. 21) did not happen. Thus it is NOT possible that the 1260s which starts with the Great Tribulation began when Ronald Weinland claimed that it did–despite the fact that he wants to indicate that it is not “great” yet.

Ronald Weinland clearly is in contradiction with the Bible when he claims that the Great Tribulation began then claims that it is not “Great”.  Can he not see that?

Anyway, supposedly during the upcoming Feast of Tabernacles this month, Ronald Weinland will reveal what he calls “new truths”, which I believe will be intended to try to keep people following him despite the fact that he has proven to be a false prophet.

Ronald Weinland currently claims that Jesus will return in 2012 and that this is one of the “new truths” he revealed:

And so because of the 50th Truth and the understanding that God has given us of Christ’s return on Pentecost, May 27, 2012…  (Weinland R.  CGPFK Sermon transcript, June 10, 2010).

Jesus, however, will not return on that date.  It is too soon as certain biblically-required events have not occurred yet.

Somewhere between now and May 28, 2010, Ronald Weinland’s followers will once again realize that he has misled them.  When he will admit it or at least change his dates again is unclear, but it is possible that the “new truths” he supposedly will reveal later this month will help give him some “cover” with his followers for some time.

But as Ronald Weinland has already proven to be a false prophet and the Great Tribulation clearly did not start on December 14, 2008, hopefully his followers will wake up now.

Some articles of related interest may include the following:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up and that the end will come in 2008 (first April 17th, then June 2008, now December 14, 2008). Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? He also has at least one other view that suggests that he is not part of the Church of God.
Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2010, 2011, or 2012? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord?
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping teaches that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world will end on October 21, 2011. Like Ronald Weinland, he allegorizes too many scriptures. What does the Bible show?
2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect This is a link related to a book by Bob Thiel (COGwriter). This also has YouTube videos related to 2012. The book is for those truly interested in understanding how prophecies inter-relate and who want to see a real sequence of end time events. Unlike the false statements in Ronald Weinland’s books, events aligning with this one are actually coming to pass.

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