James Malm Did Not Learn Enough from Ronald Weinland and Harold Camping

Elijah in the wilderness


It has been two weeks since Ronald Weinland, self-appointed one of the two witnesses (he appointed his wife as the other) was again proven wrong about prophecy (Jesus was supposed to have actually returned on May 26/27, 2012 according to the Weinlands and the Great Tribulation was supposed to have been over by then).  Its also been over a year since the proclamation that Jesus would return on May 21, 2011 “the Bible guarantees it” proclamations by followers of Harold Camping were also proven wrong.

In the world of those who claim association with the Church of God, another who will be proven wrong about 2012 is a blogger named James Malm.  Like Ronald Weinland and Harold Camping, James Malm keeps repeatedly teaching something that is wrong.

On May 20, 2012 he posted:

I still say that there is at least a 70% chance that the tribulation will begin late this year.

On May 3, 2012 he posted:

There is a high probability that the final false prophet will be set up in Rome around Sep 16 and go to the Holy Place around 75 days later, triggering the tribulation of God’s correction upon his people, Mat 24:15-21.

Last summer he declared:

There is a very high likelihood that the tribulation will begin late next year; with the abomination being set up on or near September 16th 2012 with the tribulation beginning on 30 Nov ~ 1 Dec time frame.

Now, unlike Weinland and Camping, at least James Malm learned enough to not make his false statements absolute.  Furthermore, in February 23, 2012 James Malm posted the following:

I wanted to link the above with some comments on the new moon because tonight is the New Moon; and because as the things I have been warning of come to pass, more and more people will give me some credit for accuracy in what I teach…

Right now I know that there are hundreds of people [over a thousand]  including elders who are thinking:  I agree with a lot he says on doctrine and the problems, but I have a problem with his prophecy.   His positions are completely new and are the exact opposite of what we have believed.   They are waiting to see the fruits of my effort, whether it is of God or not.  That is  a good and proper thing and I commend them!..

If this war concludes with the defeat of Radical Islam, the chances that the tribulation will begin at the end of this year will be about 70%.   If this pope dies the chances will increase to 80%.  If a new Pope begins to do miracles,  assists to set up a New Europe and is scheduled to visit Jerusalem: The chances that the tribulation will begin within 75 days of his selection as pope and setting up in Rome; and during the period of his visit to Jerusalem will be 100%.

The signs are in the scriptures.

Yet, James Malm’s work is not of God and I believe the facts demonstrate his lack of prophetic and often doctrinal false insight (also, some of what he has claimed to be new prophetic positions are not completely new nor unique to him).  Of course, based upon the scriptures, there is a 100% certainty that the Great Tribulation will not begin in 2012 and that James Malm is wrong.


Enough of the scriptural signs are simply not there yet.  And that is the same mistake that both Ronald Weinland and Harold Camping made.  And while Ronald Weinland ended up admitting that there had not been enough time for many biblically-required steps to take place for the Great Tribulation/Day of the Lord to end (notice, for example, a statement about Europe in the post Ron Weinland Falsely Claims ‘Work of the Two Witnesses is Over’), James Malm still has not realized that about steps needed before the Great Tribulation can begin.

The Europeans are not now ready for their King of the North role yet and it is not possible that they will be any time this year either.  Matthew 24:14 has still not been fulfilled completely (related to gospel proclamation) and the end cannot come until it has been.  I have told James Malm this type of thing in the past, but he keeps ignoring these and other requirements.

We have also not seen the type of wars, famines, and pestilences that Jesus described in Matthew 24:4-8 yet.  Nor have we seen a deal related to the one in Daniel 9:27.

As far as James Malm’s alleged prophetic accuracy that he has sometimes improperly brought up in the past, I have denounced several of his false predictions in the past, and so far I have been correct every time I have denounced him for claiming some date (for details, please see Error-Ridden James Malm Not Doing an Elijah Work).  And apparently later this year I will be proven correct that his 70% estimate was too high as the Great Tribulation will not begin in 2012.  Perhaps I should add that even if the pope died this year, his 80% estimate will also be wrong.  Of course, James Malm will claim he was only 70-80% wrong, but the reality is that since there is no possibility that the Great Tribulation will begin in 2012, I stand by the fact that he is 100% wrong.

His speculation, whether or not he assigns a percentage to it (and high likelihood seems like he is teaching he believed that the Great Tribulation would most likely begin in 2012), is still going to be proven wrong not too many months from now. There is NO LIKELIHOOD THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION WILL START IN 2012. Nor will the abomination be set up in September of 2012.

As I have written before, James Malm has also adopted certain positions discounting the future fulfillment of Daniel 11 that I believe will confuse and mislead his followers (for details, see Daniel 11: James Malm vs. Bob Thiel).

Now in a post titled AMOS of 4/30/12, James Malm wrote:

When the new European Babylon is used by God as his rod of correction, Syria will join in the fray and will take Gilead [Golan and surrounding area] and will thresh it like wheat; bringing much destruction on Judah who now occupies that land.

No,  Dr Bob,  Damascus will NOT be destroyed in this present war,  that will come later at the end of the tribulation.

This coming imminent conflict will change the Syrian regime and bring a peace deal, however the Israeli Extremists will sabotage that deal, bringing the wrath of God and the entire non Judeo Anglo Saxon world against them.  We will be defeated and brought under bondage for 1,260 days.

I, COGwriter, am the apparent “Dr Bob” he is referring to, so perhaps I should comment on that.  While I have not said that Damascus must be destroyed in the present conflict which may escalate into a war, at this time I do not believe that the Bible teaches that Damascus’ destruction comes at the end of the Great Tribulation per Isaiah 17:1-3.  Now, it is likely, as I have been writing for some time, that the current conflict may end up in a peace deal to fulfill Daniel 9:27 and that the Anglo-nations, 3 1/2 years later will be defeated.  James Malm is in error for believing and teaching that Judea and the Anglo-powers can be “brought under bondage” until 3 1/2 years after the peace deal (cf. Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11:31 and Matthew 24:15-21).

On May 22, 2012, James Malm posted:

Satan is a masterful liar; and the only way to escape the shifting sands of a master deceiver like Michael Synder  [who is a very successful professional spin doctor], is to stand on the whole word of God:  This is why I am working through the  firm unshakable foundation of the Apostles, prophets and Jesus Christ.

Being grounded on the Word, so that we can discern any departure from the Word, is the ONLY way to overcome this deception.

He needs a mirror.  He is relying on his false opinions, not the Word, Apostles, or Jesus Christ.  He is deceiving himself and others on various church and prophetic matters.

He and his followers really should search the scriptures, because if they truly understand them, they will realize that James Malm misunderstands much about Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11, Matthew 24, and other aspects of end time prophecy. It is not that he cannot get anything right (even the proven false prophet Ronald Weinland can get certain understandings correct), but overall James Malm simply misunderstands Bible prophecy and those that believe him will be disappointed if they really believe that the Great Tribulation can or will happen in 2012.

Ronald Weinland  has falsely claimed to be the end time “Elijah,” and though James Malm has barely stopped short of that, he has hinted indicated in the past he was doing an Elijah work (see Error-Ridden James Malm Not Doing an Elijah Work).  James Malm is not God’s “Elijah in the wilderness.”

People need to search the scriptures (cf. Acts 17:11), for if they do, they will realize that there is no possibility that the Great Tribulation can begin in 2012.  James Malm needs to better understand Matthew 24, Daniel 11, and other biblical prophecies as he, like Harold Camping and Ronald Weinland, is wrong and will be further shown to be wrong.

Some articles of related interest, which contain many scriptures to search to verify what I am saying, include the following:

Error-Ridden James Malm Not Doing an Elijah Work James Malm is an ‘independent’ who misunderstands and improperly maligns.
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies for the Great Monarch point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
Should the Church Still Try to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did Herbert W. Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work? Some say the Church should mainly feed the flock now as that is what Herbert W. Armstrong reportedly said. Is that what he said? Is that what the Bible says? What did Paul and Herbert W. Armstrong expect from evangelists?
There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra This article discusses a biblical ‘place of safety’ and includes quotes from the Bible and Herbert W. Armstrong on this subject–thus, there is a biblically supported alternative to the rapture theory.
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping taught that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world would end on October 21, 2011. What does the Bible show?
Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, and that Jesus would return on May 27, 2012. Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? He has other views which show he is not part of the Church of God?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2018 or 2019?
Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2012, 2013, or 2014? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord?
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? Are there Mayan calendar predictions for change in 2012? Changes were centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradamus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012? How might Barack Obama be involved in 2012?

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