Ron Weinland Falsely Claims ‘Work of the Two Witnesses is Over’



In CGPFK/CGPKG’s Ronald Weinland first sermon of (5/27/12, titled Pentecost to Pentecost), he stated (this is from my notes, not an online transcript, so their could be minor issues, plus I added the location of the scripture he cited twice):

We have proven, by how we live, who we are…We have followed the way God has led us…It’s just a bit farther…

Pentecost 2012 is being proven incorrect for the return of Jesus Christ…Does that negate that I am God’s witness and prophet?  Absolutely not!…

It will be on a Pentecost that Jesus will return…We just didn’t know there would be a little more to the race…Jesus Christ is to return on Pentecost…

All have to examine, reexamine, where they are…So many things we have not understood.  The work of the two witnesses is over…We are going into a different phase…

Mockers…have to excuse away what they do not want to hear…

There is no contradiction in God’s word…

There is only one answer to where we are…

Jesus Christ must return on Pentecost…What does it mean?..

And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. {Acts 2:19-21}

Beautiful.  I think of the 63,000…There is so much coming brethren.  So much that is exciting…The three and a half years is finished.  The job of the two witnesses is complete.  My job as a prophet and apostle continues…

Is this {Acts 2:19-21} teaching that the sun will turn into darkness before the Day of the Lord?  No, no, no…In the New Testament, especially, things are messed up…they don’t have the grammar…

Mockers…people will have a ‘hay day’ with it…

You can run another year…

More in 2008 in God’s Final Witness will come to pass…Now we can see…

What follows the work of the two witnesses now being completed?  We move forward…

Jesus Christ did not eternally exist…

It is in God’s hands…I understand the outrage that some will manifest by these words…God has brought us to this point in time…

We move forward ever thankful for the last 3 1/2 years we have not suffered {physically} as we could have…

A few things have to happen..for Europe…to grant people more time for repentance…

Now we move forward and continue on…We are going to be waiting another year.  For we know it has to occur on Pentecost…We are God’s true church.  There is nowhere else to go.

Let’s consider these matters.  Ron Weinland has once again proven that he was a false prophet.  He did not follow God’s way or God’s word–yet tries to claim otherwise.

Ronald Weinland is right that people who follow him should reexamine where they are and that there is no contradiction in God’s word.  Because of that, they should not stay and support him.  His teachings often contradict God’s word.

The only one answer to the truth about Ronald Weinland, is not his explanation, but it is that he is a false prophet, was not one of God’s two witnesses, and he is also a false apostle.

While he is claiming that mockers “have to excuse away what they do not want to hear,” is it not he and those that follow him that have to overlook the truth that Ron Weinald was wrong and thus clearly was a false prophet?

The job of the two witnesses has not even formally started, yet Ron Weinland is claiming that it is over.  He made false declarations on this.  The truth is that Ron Weinland himself was never one of the two witnesses and never fulfilled any of the prophecies related to them in Revelation 11:3-10 (see also Who Are The Two Witnesses?).

Furthermore, Jesus Christ has eternally existed (Jesus is God, But Became Flesh).  Those who deny that are false teachers (those who are unsure should check out the article Was Unitarianism the Teaching of the Bible or Early Church? and Binitarianism: One God, Two Beings Before the Beginning).

CGPFKG is not a Church of God, it is the Church of Ron.  There certainly are other places his followers can go if they are willing to accept the truth (see, for example, the article Which COG for You?).

Perhaps I should add that he spent a fair amount of time complaining about how he feels that New Testament translators misunderstand Greek grammar (more than I quoted from the sermon), and he was trying to claim that is why people misunderstand what the Bible teaches about prophetic events.  Of course, the fact that he insisted that Jesus would return by now proves that he has not understood many prophetic matters from the Bible.

Those who are listening to him now need to realize that this is the same Ron Weinland who previously declared all of the following:

If we come to the point in time where what I’ve said doesn’t come to pass, the reality is that I’m just a false prophet. That’s the bottom line…The reality is if it doesn’t happen, then you’re just false…I’ll acknowledge my error, my wrong, if I’m wrong (The Edge Radio, December 15, 2007)

You know, one of the things as well, what if Ron Weinland, what he says doesn’t come to pass in April, what if these things don’t happen in 2008. I think about, you know, what have I said in interviews? There’s really a simple answer. False prophet. You know, I get tons of email, I get email every day from people saying, “Well I guess in 2009,” a lot of sarcasm comes out, “I guess you’re gonna be saying this or saying that or trying to explain to people”, No, I’m done. (Sermon, Stay the Course, Part 1, December 2007)

If by Pentecost I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on all of those interviews that I have held; to do less, aah well, would be quite insane. (Weinland R. Three More Weeks–quote from near the 1 hour 28 minute point from the CGPFK website version. Sermon given March 29, 2008).

If it doesn’t pan out the only thing I would do is uh . So if I responded to anything at all was to explain to people I was a false prophet that’s the only answer. That I’m no longer a minister. (Mike McConnell Show.  April 7, 2008)

If things do not by mid-June very clearly so, I will make it clear that I was a false prophet and I will never preach again (James Whale Show. April 10, 2010)

So, if I’m not a prophet I’ll reason with you accordingly and be open with you about it…So often for those who do not believe that I’m a prophet, the question is asked, “What will you do if these things do not come to pass?” And I’m going to answer that more fully in this particular sermon today…So again, some cannot wait for me to say that I am not a prophet, or to say that I am a false prophet. Indeed, no one has long to wait do they? Isn’t that amazing? May 27, 2012 is not too far away and if Europe hasn’t risen by early 2012 and if China does not begin destroying the earth before that date, then the reality would be manifest much sooner, obviously. You don’t have to wait until 2012.  As far as the question they ask; what would I do? Well, first I’d repent before God and the Church. I’d acknowledge my sin and pray that God have mercy upon me for being so horribly presumptuous. Candidly (and some are going to really hate hearing this), I’d deeply repent of all those things that concern prophecies that I have given in the office of a prophet…I’d go back through all 57 Truths and eliminate those that are shown to be untrue, repenting as I did so; but I would hold fast to all that I believed to be true. (Weinland R. A Final Plea, With Judgment – Pt. 1. March 12, 2011)

This 5/27/12 sermon is the first of Ron Weinland’s sermons that I have listened to in its entirety for a while.  He did not resign or sound repentant to me.  he clearly is still preaching and claiming to be God’s prophet, despite stating that he would stop if he was wrong.  In my view, Ronald Weinland has again failed to truly repent–he mainly indicated that his understanding of matters is changing as God supposedly leads him.  And though he admits some of his teachings were wrong (though not with those words and not in a way that hinted of real repentance), he says he plans to continue.

The scriptural passage that I would like to mention here would be the following:

21 “And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’– 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).

How many times does Ronald Weinland have to be wrong for his followers to open their eyes and believe the Bible over him?

In his 5/27/12 sermon, Ron Weinland read from letters (emails presumably) from supporters who will still be supporting him.  And he also mentioned that his church has so far disfellowshiped at least one person who did not like Ron Weinland’s explanation in his 5/26/12 post about the non-return of Jesus.

Ronald Weinland is sadly still fulfilling 2 Peter 2:

2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber (2 Peter 2:1-3).

Today is Pentecost.  This is a day that the Bible called for repentance:

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  (Acts 2:37-38, KJV)

Having realized that they were wrong, Ron Weinland and his followers should repent, not declare that they are part of the true church and continue as they have been.

Ron Weinland and his followers need to realize that what they have been teaching about prophetic matters (and Jesus Christ) is wrong.  Today, they need to repent.

Some have asked why cover Ron Weinland so much this month?  There are several reasons that I will list below:

  1. He has spent a great deal of money advertising on the internet lately which generated a lot more interest in what he teaches.
  2. He claims to be a Church of God leader and I want people to realize that I do not believe that he, who denies the deity of Christ, can possibly be part of the COG.  He is not.
  3. For the first time in nearly four years, “Ronald Weinland” is the top Google search term that people used that came to in any specific month.  The fact is that I am NOT promoting his message, but instead providing information to thousands that are interested in learning why he is not who he says he is.
  4. Since his predictions have proven to be wrong within the last 24 hours, I believe that this is a time to reach out to those who have followed him to explain why he had to have been wrong, and why they should not, according to the Bible, continue to follow him any more.
  5. He keeps trying to put his ‘spin’ on what is happening, and my hope and prayer is that his followers will instead check out what I am reporting with the Bible to see that his repeated ‘smooth words’ are often in contradiction to scripture.
  6. Today is Pentecost and is a time to call for repentance and true conversion.
  7. I again wish to call for him and his followers to repent.  Most of the Jews and many others thought that they were the part of God’s church, yet the Apostle Peter said they still needed to repent and this message is still applicable to those who have followed Ron Weinland.

And yes, while I expect to mention Ron Weinland from time to time in the future, he should again get less coverage here as his internet reach should plummet again and there will be less interest that he is generating.

(Because of Ron Weinland related matters, the false self-appointed apostle David Pack of the Restored Church of God, decided to quote me and throw insults to me.  His quotes and comments are shown on the News of those once affiliated with the Global Church of God page with the 5/27/12 a.m. date.)

Deception is a powerful thing, but through Jesus it can be overcome (Philippians 4:13).  Believe God, for “he who does not believe God has made Him a liar” (1 John 5:10).

Please do not let false prophets and false apostles like Ron Weinland turn you away from the God of the Bible.  Today is Pentecost, the appropriate time to repent.

Some articles of possible interest related to prophecy may include:

Pentecost: Is it more than Acts 2? Many “Christians” somewhat observe Pentecost. Do they know what it means? It is also called the Feast of Harvest, the Feast of Weeks, and the day of firstfruits. What about “speaking in tongues” and being led by the Holy Spirit?
True vs. False Conversion Are you really converted or willing to be? What is true conversion? What is false conversion? What are the dangers of false conversion? Evangelist Roderick Meredith provides information on those important questions.
Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, and that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012. Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? Why do Ronald Weinland’s own statements prove that he is a false prophet? Additionally, he has other views which show he is not truly part of the Church of God?
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
What is the Synagogue of Satan? David Pack falsely claims these are leaders in what he considers to be “splinter” COGs. What is the truth about this?
Is God’s Existence Logical? Some say it is not logical to believe in God. Is that true?
Is Evolution Probable or Impossible or Is God’s Existence Logical? Part II This short article clearly answers what ‘pseudo-scientists’ refuse to acknowledge.
Where Did God Come From? Any ideas? And how has God been able to exist? Who is God?
How is God Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient? Here is a biblical article by Wallace Smith which answers what many really wonder about it.
What is the Meaning of Life? Who does God say is happy? What is your ultimate destiny? Do you really know? Does God actually have a plan for YOU personally?
The Bible: Fact or Fiction? This is a booklet written by Douglas Winnail that answers if the Bible is just a collection of myths and legends or the inspired word of God.
Did The Early Church Teach Millenarianism? Was the millennium (sometimes called chiliasm) taught by early Christians? Who condemned it? Will Jesus literally reign for 1000 years on the earth? Is this time near?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? Does God have 7,000 year plan? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2019 or 202x?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2012, 2013, or 2014? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 Who is 666? This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping taught that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world would end on October 21, 2011. What does the Bible show?
The Gospel of the Kingdom of God was the Emphasis of Jesus and the Early Church Did you know that? Do you even know what the gospel of the kingdom is all about? True religion should be based upon the true gospel.
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? Are there Mayan calendar predictions for change in 2012? Changes were centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradamus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012? How might Barack Obama and Julia Gillard be involved in 2012?
There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to more easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG/GCI members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.

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