“We Are Almost There!”, Ronald Weinland, and Harold Camping



Regular readers of this page realize that I have been denouncing the false prophecies of CG-PFK’s Ronald Weinland for many years.  Interestingly, he and his church decided to title his Last Great Day sermon of 9/30/10, We Are Almost There!

The reason that this is interesting, is that We Are Almost There! is the title of perhaps the most popular booklet of another false prophet, Harold Camping.

Harold Egbert Camping

Now I have written about some of the similarities between these false prophets before (e.g. Harold Camping’s Two Witnesses Provided No Real Witness).  Both of them have proven to be false prophets as both have changed their previous “end of the world” dates.  And both currently believe that the “Great Tribulation” started some time ago with Ronald Weinland claiming it began on December 14, 2008 and Harold Camping on May 22, 1988.

Of course, the Great Tribulation has not yet begun (and cannot prior to 2014, for details as on that, please check out the article Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2010, 2011, or 2012?).  For only one biblical reason (and there are many), the following would have been fulfilled throughout the Great Tribulation:

25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time (Daniel 7:25).

The “He” referred to in Daniel 7:25  is the King of the North. This leader will terribly persecute, and normally attempt to kill, the Laodicean and other Christians that are not then in a place of protection (see also the article There is a Place of Protection for the Philadelphians).  The “time, times, and half a time” represents three and one-half years.  Daniel 7:25 has not been fulfilled (see also Persecutions by Church and State), and it obviously should have been if the Great Tribulation began when either Harold Camping or Ronald Weinland claimed it did.

Both Ron Weinland and Harold Camping also claim that Jesus will return on Pentecost.  Ronald Weinland claims that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012.  In his, We Are Almost There! booklet Harold Camping claims that Jesus will return on Pentecost, May 21, 2011.  And although Jesus WILL NOT return on either of those dates, because Harold Camping ignores the biblical calendar (and instead relies on a Roman calendar), the date he has selected for Jesus’ return is not even the biblical date for Pentecost (Ron Weinland at least knows what day is Pentecost, though he has many other errors of his own).

Unlike Ron Weinland who had a COG background, yet repudiated part of it (he became unitarian), Harold Camping does not have a COG background.  Both men, however, highly allegorize scripture to the point that they make many of its prophetic teachings essentially meaningless in their interpretations.  They really need to learn how to understand the Bible (and should study the article What is the Appropriate Form of Biblical Interpretation?).

Anyway, it is a little amazing to me how the false prophet Ronald Weinland chose to title a sermon with the same title that the false prophet Harold Camping used for his booklet.

And while the end of the 6,000 years that God gave humanity to rule itself under the influence of Satan and cut off from most access to Him is almost over, Jesus simply cannot return prior to 2017 (and most likely not for one or more years later) as certain biblically required events have not yet taken place.

Yet, certain preliminary biblically required prophetic events are happening that are preparing the world for the end.  And while we are not there yet, events are moving us closer to the end.

Because of false prophecies such as from people like Ron Weinland and Harold Camping, many in the media and elsewhere will make light of the fact that Jesus truly will return.  Many will become scoffers.  As foretold in scripture,  false prophets like Ron Weinland and Harold Camping sometimes cause the way of truth blasphemed (2 Peter 2:1-3).  And although many scoffers will arise, prophecy will be fulfilled and Jesus will return (2 Peter 3:3-10; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

Ronald Weinland and Harold Camping need to publicly repent, and do so now, as they are not God’s prophets, but have spoken presumptuously (Deuteronomy 18:22).  No one should heed their non-biblical prophetic utterances.

Some articles of related interest may include the following:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up and that the end will come in 2008 (first April 17th, then June 2008, now December 14, 2008). Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? He also has at least one other view that suggests that he is not part of the Church of God.
Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2010, 2011, or 2012? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2018 or 2019?
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping teaches that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world will end on October 21, 2011. Like Ronald Weinland, he allegorizes too many scriptures. What does the Bible show?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.

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