Ron Weinland Continues to Vacillate & Be Upset With Critics



In his sermon yesterday, titled Awe of God, pt 4 (from Spokane, WA), CGPFK’s Ronald Weinland continued to vacillate.

For example, he began by mentioning that CGPFK’s would have several Feast of Tabernacles’ sites this year, and only one in Canada.  He then, a minute or two later stated:

The Feast of Tabernacles…We don’t know if we will be able to observe it.

He then said that was because “we” do not know the dates of that certain upcoming seals from the Book of Revelation will be opened.

For those unfamiliar with Ronald Weinland, some background may be in order.  Ron Weinland was a minister in the old Worldwide Church of God, then in the current United Church of God, and then he went out on his own and founded his CGPFK.  He declared himself a prophet, and then a couple of years ago, declared that he was one of God’s Two Witnesses.  And on April 17, 2008, he declared that his wife Laura was the other witness.

Ronald and Laura Weinland are two relatively unknown “witnesses”.  They do not have the doctrines, the signs, the reliability, nor the notoriety that God’s Two Witnesses would actually have.

He made many declarations in 2008, like the Great Tribulation began on April 17, 2008, that the USA would be nuked by June 8, 2008, that he would stop preaching if he was wrong, etc.  He, of course, continued to preach, and later declared that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008.

One thing about him that has not changed is his horrific attitude towards others, like his critics.  In his book, 2008: God’s Final Witness he called for the death of various COG-affiliated leaders.  The first “power” he claimed he got on April 17, 2008 was to pronounce death towards his critics:

All of this is from God…

For those of you who want to mock, I do forewarn you, you are going to cease or you will die…You see, I have a unique job and you don’t understand what that job is…You don’t understand…

You don’t understand the power of God and what He has given me to do…

And my first exercise in use of power, that God has granted me in Revelation 11, is to you, you mockers…Truly.

It begins with you, first and foremost.

You will be the first to experience…You don’t have to wait long.

For those who mock, again, from this day forward, by what you say against God’s people, by what you say against God’s truth, by what you say against God’s truths, by what you say against God’s prophets, you will suffer from sickness that will eat you from the inside out. And you will die. (Weinland, R. It Has Begun–the 1260 Days Have Begun. Sermon pre-recorded but played 4/19/08).

He made a similar pronouncement on December 2008.  He also wrote against his critics at least twice in the summer of 2008.

In yesterday’s sermon, Ron Weinland again ranted and railed against his critics, and specifically those of us who report about him on websites.    He claims we hate him with a passion and twist his writings.

I cannot speak for others, but I do not hate Ronald Weinland, nor have I ever written anything about him that is not true.

He specifically stated yesterday:

God shall afflict them…but in His time…My enemies do not change their ways.  They do not fear God…Scorning, that’s what happens on the internet.

He basically also stated that those who do not listen to him are fools.

He did make an interesting promise to his critics in March 2008:

Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on all of those interviews that I have held; to do less, aah well, would be quite insane. (Weinland R. Three More Weeks–quote from near the 1 hour 28 minute point from the CGPFK website version. Sermon given March 29, 2008).

But he did vacillate on that, as he did not keep his word.  If he was a “man of God”, one would think that he would keep his public word.

Instead, last summer (after his other predictions did not come to pass), he claimed that God revealed a “50th truth” to him.

Here are parts of number 50 related to his critics:

3) God is also going to reveal the perverted attitude and spirit of all who mock Him, His Church, and His servants. Those who scoff, criticize, ridicule, and mock God’s Church have used the occasion of this revelation to find fault with God’s Church for changing doctrine (as they see it) and timing in order to better suit their own false needs. Such critics foolishly and unwittingly put themselves in a position of judging God. The very thing they mock is the very thing that will end up being used to mock them. God is revealing the kind of hatred that has existed in the hearts of men and women toward Him and His people for nearly 6,000 years now.

4) As part of a direct relationship to the previous point, this very thing that scoffers and mockers try to use to discredit God’s end-time prophet and two witnesses is one of the very things that God will use (in a far greater way) to prove who it is through whom He is working. In reality, the fulfillment of the 50th Truth will be great evidence of God’s true servants and the events that reveal the fulfilling of this truth will put mockers and scoffers to shame.

I also do not believe that pointing out why he is false possibly mocks God. Does Ronald Weinland not realize what the Bible teaches?

20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 “And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’– 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:19-22).

According to God’s word, Ronald Weinland is a false prophet and we should be looking to see that what he claimed did not come to pass. He needs to repent or God may strike him down.

I have not vacillated in my reporting about him for the many years that I have.


Because I have long compared his words to the Bible and world events, and Ronald Weinland has often been found lacking.  He relies on himself and his own delusions.

And while Ronald Weinland is correct that the end is near, he is not the only one who realizes that–but unlike the COGwriter site, he keeps making statements that have repeatedly been proven false.  The reality is that several biblically required events have not occurred that would be required for the Great Tribulation to have began in 2008.  Thus, he is in error that the Great Tribulation began on April 17, 2008 or December 14, 2008.

Ronald Weinland needs to repent and publicly apologize for declaring that he was one of the two witnesses, that the Great Tribulation began, for his calls for death against his critics, and misleading his followers.

Those interesting in learning more about the subjects in today’s post may wish to read the following articles:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up and that the end will come in 2008 (first April 17th, then June 2008, now December 14, 2008). Why is he a false prophet? He also has at least one other view that suggests that he is not part of the Church of God.
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something?There is a Mayan calendar prediction for change in 2012. 2012 changes were also centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradaumus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? When does the six thousand years of human rule end?
Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2009, 2010, or 2011? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord?

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