Protestant claims ‘rapture’ on September 17, 2023, while another insists on sometime in 2023 but . . .

‘Rapture’ etching

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A Protestant claims that Jesus will return and rapture the Christians in a couple of days:

The Revelation 12:1&2 astronomical sign which actually happened on September 23, 2017, as noted on the previous page, is the last heavenly sign referenced in the Bible and it’s the only one that was labeled “Great”. In Jan.2019, I was prompted, I’m guessing by the Holy Spirit, to consider the question, “what if this Rev.12 Great Sign date itself, 9/23/17, is a sign!” Surly it means something! We’re talking about a Great & Wondrous End-Time Sign that was orchestrated by God!! Surly He did not just choose this date randomly! Via Biblical Numerology the #9 represents ‘Finality, Divine Completeness, or Judgment‘. The #17 denotes ‘The Perfection of Spiritual Order‘. The #23 doesn’t possess any special biblical significance, however, maybe the combination could point to the Completion of the “age of grace”, the Rapture, &/or Judgment in 2023!

Additionally, on April 8, 2024 North America will experience a total solar eclipse. It and the total solar eclipse of 2017 (7 yrs earlier & the same year as the Great Sign) will form an ominous “X” over the United StatesWith the large number of Christians residing in the U.S., that could mean that a rapture in 2023 might result in the demise of the U.S. in 2024!

2/13/19:  Today I awoke at 6:23. – Maybe I finally received my 3rd confirmation!?

3/4/19:  Upon ordering David Jeremiah’s The Book of Signs, I noticed my credit card expiration date, 09/23. September 2023!! WOW! …

It could certainly seem logical that Psalm 23 could be pointing to a 2023 rapture! …

Did God give us this date of the 23rd as a clue similar to that of the Rev.12 Great Sign date of 9/23/17? Are they pointing to the year 2023? …

1) 1Thes.4:16&17 is theprominent & most important scripture pointing to our rapture, – “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, & with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first.” “Then we which are alive & remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.” Moreover, 5:23 talks of “the coming of our Lord“, which might just allude to a 2023 Rapture.

6) The relevance of the #17 is scripturally represented in two particular passages where we have 7 negatives vs 10 positives. Both of these scriptures could personify a rapture:
a) Romans 8:35-39, “What can separate us from the love of Christ? – Nothing!”.
b) Hebrews 12:18-24, the Old vs the New dispensations are contrasted.
7) Finally, we also have the #17 incorporated in the date of the Great Rev.12 Sign itself, 9/23/17. By a simple transposition type decipherization, we have Sept.17, 2023!! Like a sign hidden in plain sight!

 Leviticus Chapter 23 talks of God’s 7 Feasts. …

Thus we have the following:
120 is the 15th triangular number, (disciples in the Upper Room, post-resurrection)
153 is the 17th triangular number, (fish in Peter’s net, post-resurrection. The Resurrection #)
276 is the 23rd triangular number, (lives saved on Paul’s shipwreck at Malta Acts 27:34-37)
666 is the 36th triangular number, (number of the Beast or Anti-Christ)
As noted, 153 & 276 deal with salvation and AMAZINGLY, we not only have our Rapture day again, the 17th, but we also have the year 2023!!! Also, when we look at the sum of the 4 numbers (1215), 1+2+1+5 is equal to ‘9’. And thus again, we have the full date of our Rapture, September 17, 2023! …

Moreover, I believe this 2023 rapture scenario has been overwhelmingly supported by scripture, particularly the Rev.12 Great Sign, the Book of Esther, Micah 7:1-6, the 153 fish of John 21:11, & the profound significance of all the Verses 16&17 number combinations. Each of these taken separately could seem coincidental, but taken together they point to a true prophetic revelation. Granted, Satan could likely counterfeit coincidences, but I don’t believe he could vilify scripture. There is now absolutely no doubt in my mind that God wants this date, September 16&17, 2023, made known & set in stone! …

Jan.12, 2022 an article in Biblical News by Adam Berkowitz reported that a prominent mystic-numerologist from Jerusalem, Rabbi Yekutiel Fish, has proved that the year 2023 (5783 AM), which will start in September 2022, will be the final Jubilee before the arrival of the Messiah. Rabbi Fish attributed this teaching to a Rabbi Oren Evron, another prominent mystic-numerologist.

https://www.333-godsendtimesosministry.org/rapture-sept-17-2023.html accessed 12/04/22

No, not one of the above “confirmations” is a biblical “sign” nor are they valid. Jesus will not be returning in 2023. Trying to tie the biblical Holy Days in still does not point to September 23, 2023, which does not fall on any of them (though the Jews added a second date for Trumpets on September 17th, that is not a biblical holy day date). The fact that the above author is convinced is irrelevant as Jesus’ return is not possible in 2023. The so-called ‘final jubilee’ ending in 2023 is speculation and I do not believe it is accurate. But even if it were, it is not proof of Jesus’ return then. Jesus gave signs and calculating years or a jubilee was not one of them.

Like many false Protestant prophetic positions, the writer relies, NOT on signs that Jesus said to look at (cf. Matthew 24), but instead things he has strung together and concluded, falsely.

Received the following from Robert Singer several hours ago (who is 9th on his list of those pointing to 2023–note: I do not consider that the “Christian scholars” he referred to are true Christians nor the Roman Catholic Malachy being a real saint, etc.):
Nostradamus writing the world will End, aka as Jesus comes back, in 2023 is not relevant? How is it possible you have not noticed all of the weather, food and worldwide chaos?  [1]
The death toll from the 6.8 magnitude quake that struck in the High Atlas Mountains late on Friday evening rose to 2,901, while the number of people injured more than doubled to 5,530, state television reported.
The only possible explanation for why you will not consider that you could be wrong about Obama and 2023 is that you will never re-consider that were wrong, or believers will not be going to heaven.
We will know a lot more in the next 60 days.
Sorry to have bothered you but everyone on this list, including me, are right about 2023.
[1] The World Economic Forum’s Global Risks Report 2023 described food supply crises as an ongoing global risk. The compounding issues, including the Russian invasion of Ukraine, as well as climate-related crop failures, undermine global efforts in hunger and malnutrition reduction.
Food is an essential, but scarce, resource in many parts of world. Global conflicts, climate change and supply disruptions from COVID-19 have exacerbated the problem. This article takes a closer look at the impact of climate change on today’s food crisis. Extreme weather is a driver of world hunger.
Yet there’s a global water crisis. People are struggling to access the quantity and quality of water they need for drinking, cooking, bathing, handwashing, and growing their food
I responded to Robert Singer by stating that Nostradamus was not a prophet of God, that enough signs Jesus pointed to in Gospels have not happened to allow for a 2023 return, and that I wrote a book about Barack Obama that shows he cannot be the final Antichrist (who is likely to be a pope) nor can Obama be the Beast as the Beast will be a European. I also pointed out that the late Harold Camping pointed to various synchronicities, but overlooked what Jesus stated, and was wrong. I further told him that by the end of 2023, I will be proven right that Jesus cannot come in 2023. Throughout history, sadly, many have overlooked or misunderstood, what Jesus taught about His return. I asked him if I could post all of this and, Robert Singer wrote that I could if I wished.

Anyway, while God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33), remember that Jesus said Satan was a liar from the beginning and many of the religious follow after him (John 8:44). As far as the assertions by Robert Singer that “the visionaries, etc in all religions and world societies cannot be wrong at the same time,” the fact is that true Christians, according to Jesus, are not of this world (John 15:19) because we are set apart by the word of God (John 17:14-17). But the rest of the world is now blinded, hence often wrong–both individually and collectively. The Apostle Paul wrote:

4 Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. (Romans 3:4)

God is faithful (1 Corinthians 1:9).

Related to the possible timing of Jesus’ return, the Continuing Church of God put together the following sermon on its ContinuingCOG channel:


1:11:09

Second Coming or Rapture by 2026?

Various Protestants have pointed to the return of Jesus as coming in either 2023, 2024, 2025, and/or 2026. Is this possible? Will Jesus’ second coming occur before the start of the tribulation as a “pre-tribulation rapture” or after the tribulation? What did Jesus, Himself, say about the timing of when He would return? Can you rely on the teachings of people such as David Jeremiah, Hal Lindsey, the late Dr. Tim LaHaye, or Jerry Jenkins? Does the Bible, in the 13th chapter of the Book of Ezekiel, have warnings about those that prophesy falsehoods and claim that they are God’s teachings? Do various scriptures pointed to by “pretrib rapturists” prove a “rapture” must be different from Jesus’ second coming? Will persecutions still hit the church? Are ALL Christians promised protection from the coming “hour of trial” or only the Philadelphian faithful? Is the place of protection on the earth or in heaven? Did Jesus speak of fleeing? Who should “gather together” as Zephaniah 2 says BEFORE the decree is issued? Is Jesus expected to return in the next decade? Does Daniel 9:27 eliminate the return of Jesus prior to 2030 now? Does Daniel now allow for a 2031-2033 return of Jesus? What should you do to be accounted worthy to escape what is coming according to Jesus? Dr. Thiel address these issues and more in this sermon.

Here is a link to our sermon: Second Coming or Rapture by 2026?

Do not rely on Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Mayan, Hindu, Muslim, etc. prophets or predictions that are in contradiction to scripture (Romans 3:4).

The Book of Daniel, despite being on Robert Singer’s list does NOT point to Jesus’ return in 2023.

As far as what is going on now, we are in what Jesus referred to as “the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:8). Related to them, Jesus said:

4 Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. (Matthew 24:4-7)

The end is not yet, but is relatively soon.

Rely on the word of God and His true servants, not what some consider to be clever arguments.

Those who wish to know more about the truth about end time prophecies may wish to study the following:

Is There A Secret Rapture for the Church? When and Where is the Church Protected? What does the Bible really teach? Does the Church flee or is it taken up just prior to the great tribulation? Who really is left behind? Here are links to three related videos Fleeing or Rapture?, Rapture or Fleeing? Which is Great Tribulation Protection?, Second Coming or Rapture by 2026?, and Did Jesus Teach a Pre-tribulation Rapture?
There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra This article discusses a biblical ‘place of safety’ and includes quotes from the Bible and Herbert W. Armstrong on this subject–thus, there is a biblically supported alternative to the rapture theory. There is also a video on the subject: Might Petra be the Place of Safety? Here is something related in the Spanish language: Hay un lugar de seguridad para los Filadelfinos. ¿Puede ser Petra?
Hope of Salvation: How the Continuing Church of God differs from Protestantism The CCOG is NOT Protestant. This free online book explains how the real Church of God differs from mainstream/traditional Protestants. Several sermons related to the free book are also available: Protestant, Baptist, and CCOG History; The First Protestant, God’s Command, Grace, & Character; The New Testament, Martin Luther, and the Canon; Eucharist, Passover, and Easter; Views of Jews, Lost Tribes, Warfare, & Baptism; Scripture vs. Tradition, Sabbath vs. Sunday; Church Services, Sunday, Heaven, and God’s Plan; Seventh Day Baptists/Adventists/Messianics: Protestant or COG?; Millennial Kingdom of God and God’s Plan of Salvation; Crosses, Trees, Tithes, and Unclean Meats; The Godhead and the Trinity; Fleeing or Rapture?; and How Does the Church of God Differ from Protestantism?
Does the CCOG have the confirmed signs of Acts 2:17-18? Does any church have the confirmed dream and prophetic signs of Acts 2:17-18? Should one? Here is a link in the Spanish language: ¿Tiene la CCOG confirmadas las señales de Hechos 2: 17-18? Here is a link in the French language: Est-ce que l’Église Continue de Dieu confirme les signes d’Actes 2:17-18? A related sermon in the English language is also available: 17 Last Days’ Signs of the Holy Spirit.
Church of God Leaders on Prophets Have there been prophets throughout the church age? Are any supposed to be around in the last days? What have COG leaders stated or written about prophets? Here is a link to a related sermon: Church of God Leaders on Prophets.
How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God There are many false prophets. How can Christians determine who is a true prophet? There is also a sermon-length video titled How to determine if someone is a true prophet of God. Here is a related link in Spanish/español: ¿Cómo determinar si alguien es un verdadero profeta de Dios?
The Dangerous Rise of Preterists Has the Great Tribulation finished? What was the view of early Christians? Why is the preterist view dangerous? A related sermon video is titled Preterism: You’ve Gotta Be Kidding…Right?
4. The Thyatira Church Era was predominant circa 1050 A.D. to circa 1600 A.D. The Church during the Inquisition. It claimed succession from the apostles. Here is a link toa related sermon: Thyatira, Succession, and Jezebel.
5. The Sardis Church Era was predominant circa 1600 A.D. to circa 1933 A.D. Discusses some early history of the Seventh Day BaptistsSeventh-day AdventistsCG7-SalemJerusalem 7DCG, and COG-7th Day-Denver. Here are two historical sermons: Sardis Church Era: Beginnings, Doctrines, and Leaders and Sardis: SDBs, SDAs, & CG7s.
6. The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now the remnant of that era is basically the most faithful in the Church of God, like who hold to the beliefs and practices of the Continuing Church of God.
7. The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. The Laodiceans are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG or its offshoots.  They do not properly understand the work or biblical prophecies and will face the Great Tribulation if they do not repent. One video of related interest is 50+ Laodicean Prophetic Errors. See also Do You Hold to Any of These Laodicean Prophetic Errors?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2023, 2024, or 2025? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000? Here is a version of the article in the Spanish language: ¿Puede la Gran Tribulación comenzar en el 2020 o 2021? ¿Es el Tiempo de los Gentiles? A related video is: Great Tribulation: 2026 or 2027? A shorter video is: Can the Great Tribulation start in 2022 or 2023? Notice also: Can Jesus return in 2023 or 2024? Here is a video in the Spanish language: Es El 2021 el año  de La Gran Tribulación o el Grande Reseteo Financiero.

 



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