USA may attack Syria without UK, but with France


The USA, UK, and France have all been making statements about attacking Syria.  Various ones have concerns about this:

August 30, 2013

Speculation is rife about the possible timing of U.S. air strikes on Syria, after President Barack Obama announced Wednesday that he is considering a military response to the Syrian army’s alleged use of chemical weapons. The administration now has to decide on the best time to launch a strike…”I think here, too, there is going to be a desire on the part of the Obama administration to make sure that it is not left to go it alone if it does move against Syria, to marshal support from the European states, in particular from the U.K. (Britain), France and Germany to make sure that if there is military action against Syria, it’s not American, but it’s allied action,” Berman said.
Retired U.S. Air Force officer Sam Gardiner told Alhurra TV that coalition building efforts have stalled, but that the preparations for a strike are going on.
“U.S. forces are in place ready to conduct a strike at any minute,” he said…
Syrian President Assad said Thursday Damascus will retaliate for any foreign attack, sparking fear of a chemical weapons attack on Israel, Turkey, Jordan and others.

30 August 2013

Jeremy Bowen reports from Damascus: ”You could sense the tension in the face of what feels here like an impending attack”

France is still ready to take action in Syria alongside the US, despite UK MPs blocking British involvement, President Francois Hollande has said.

He told Le Monde newspaper a strike within days could not be ruled out…

“France will be part of it. France is ready.”

He ruled out strikes while the UN inspectors were in Syria. However he did not rule out the possibility that military action could be taken before next Wednesday, when the French parliament is due to debate the issue.

Neither France nor the US need parliamentary approval for action, and Secretary of State John Kerry said the US could not be held to the foreign policy of others.

The UK vote was welcomed in Russia, Syria’s main international ally.

Moscow said it reflected a growing public understanding of the dangers of an attack.

30 August 2013

Colonel Bob Stewart MP, a member of British Prime Minister David Cameron’s Conservative Party, expressed “total shock” to The Jerusalem Post on Friday at a House of Commons votethat rejected a motion holding Syrian President Bashar Assad accountable for the mass use of chemical weapons on August 21 in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta…

“Fundamentally, the Conservative Party are very sad today, and this is a blow to David Cameron. But more importantly, this is a blow to Britain’s international prestige,” Stewart said.

“The idea that the United States may take action, and the French are a part and the Germans are in support, begs the question of where we stand.”

The Obama administration’s plan to launch a military strike against Syria is being received with serious reservations by many in the U.S. military, which is coping with the scars of two lengthy wars and a rapidly contracting budget, according to current and former officers…

Marine Lt. Col. Gordon Miller, a fellow at the Center for a New American Security, warned this week of “potentially devastating consequences, including a fresh round of chemical weapons attacks and a military response by Israel.”

“If President Asad were to absorb the strikes and use chemical weapons again, this would be a significant blow to the United States’ credibility and it would be compelled to escalate the assault on Syria to achieve the original objectives,” Miller wrote in a commentary for the think tank.

The situation is tense.  Iran has also made threats against Israel if the USA intervenes in Syria (see Iran threatens to burn down Israel if USA attacks Syria).

Here is some of what I wrote about the situation with Syria in my book Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States-Second Edition for Second Obama Term:

Note: The U.S.A. itself is vulnerable to EMP type attacks and they and/or items such as biological weapons, chemical weapons, terrorism, nuclear weapons, dirty bombs, etc. could affect the U.S.A. because of a conflict involving Iran, Syria, and/or others…

Syria and Barack Obama?

Barack Obama has made a variety of statements suggesting that he would support military action to change the government in Syria.  Notice statements that seem to support this from August 20, 2012:

Obama’s tone intensified Monday when the president threatened direct military action if Damascus attempts to use chemical or biological weapons — or slips them to allied militant groups such as al-Qaida:

“We cannot have a situation in which chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people,” Obama said during a news conference at the White House. “We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is, we start seeing a whole bunch of weapons moving around or being utilized. … That would change my equation.”

Might U.S. military intervention with Syria under the Obama Administration be at all prophetic?

Interestingly, some Islamic prophecy suggests that someone like the biblical King of the South, rises up after there is destruction involving Syria and black standards:

Traditions have been reported mentioning the signs for the time of the appearance of the Imam…black standards will advance from Khurasan; al-Yamani will come out in revolt; al-Maghribi will appear in Egypt and take possession of it from Syria; the Turk will occupy the region of al-Jazira; the Byzantines will occupy Ramla; the star will appear in the east giving light just like the moon gives light; then (the new moon) will bend until its two tips almost meet; a colour will appear in the sky and spread to its horizons; a fire will appear for a long time in the east remaining in the air for three or seven days; the Arabs will throw off the reins and take possession of their land, throwing out the foreign authority; the people of Egypt will kill their ruler and destroy Syria; and three standards will dispute over it (Syria)…

The Abbasids will dispute; a voice will call from the sky; one of the villages of Syria called al-Jabiyya will be swallowed up; the Turks will occupy the region of al-Jazira; the Byzantines will attack al-Ramla; at that time there will be much conflict throughout the land until Syria is destroyed.

Could U.S.A. forces under the leadership of Barack Obama be considered to be marching under the black standard?  That is hard to say.  But the fact is that unlike most Arabs, Syria’s President Assad is a Shi’ite, not Sunni, Muslim, and it is likely that Sunni Muslims will dominate Syria.

Consistent with the above Islamic prophecy, the Bible itself teaches that Damascus will be destroyed (Isaiah 17:1). Might the USA directly or indirectly assist in the destruction of Damascus? Could the black standard have anything to do with a black USA president? If so, this may be another Islamic prophecy possibly involving Barack Obama.

Notice the following:

The Black Banner or Black Standard (راية السوداء rāyat al-sawdā’ , also known as راية العقاب rāyat al-`uqāb “banner of the eagle” or simply as الراية al-rāya “the banner”) is the historical flag flown by Muhammad in Islamic tradition, an eschatological symbol in Shi’a Islam (heralding the advent of the Mahdi), and a symbol used in Islamism and Jihadism.

A black “banner of the eagle,” while possibly being forces of Islam, may also be forces of the USA (the eagle is a symbol of the U.S.A. and others) or the USA, directly or indirectly, supporting an Islamic power that invades Syria–and that is something that the U.S.A. has secretly (now not so-secretly) agreed to do). And even if this “prophecy” was or was not intended to involve the U.S.A./Barack Obama, presuming that more destruction in Syria happens, those Muslims who believe in the Imam Mahdi may well point to Syria’s problems as a sign that the rise of the Imam Mahdi is soon expected.  (Thiel B. Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States-Second Edition for Second Obama Term. Nazarene Books, 2013, pp. 22-23,25-28)

The USA now seems to be closer to actually attacking Syria.  While ultimately Damascus will be destroyed per Isaiah 17:1, this does not mean that there will not be a cost to the USA.

Some items of possibly related interest may include:

Damascus and Syria in Prophecy Will Bashar Assad hold power as he has it? Does the Bible show that Damascus, the capital of Syria, will be destroyed? What will happen to Syria? Will the Syrians support the final King of the South that the Bible tells will rise up? Which scriptures discuss the rise and fall of an Arabic confederation? Does Islamic prophecy predict the destruction of Syria. This is a YouTube video.
The Arab World In the Bible, History, and Prophecy The Bible discusses the origins of the Arab world and discusses the Middle East in prophecy. What is ahead for the Middle East and those who follow Islam? What does Islam teach about the Imam Mahdi?
Is the Future King of the South Rising Up? Some no longer believe there needs to be a future King of the South. Might Egypt, Islam, Iran, Arabs, or Ethiopia be involved? Might this King be called the Mahdi or Caliph? What does the Bible say?
The Future King of the South is Rising Does the Bible teach that there will be a future King of the South in Daniel 11? Is this kingdom rising up now? Did the old Worldwide Church of God (WCG) teach that there would be another one? And who is the King of the South? How will this involve Egypt? Is the final King of the South some type of Arab-Muslim confederation? Can Iran be involved? Is there a group that seems to be supporting the goals of the King of the South? Has the Obama Administration supported the rise of this power? This is a YouTube video.
The Muslim Brotherhood and the Rise of the King of the South The Bible tells of the formation of a power of nations that are in the Middle East and North Africa that are part of the final “King of the South” (Daniel 11:40-43) The Muslim Brotherhood wishes to have an Islamic empire with basically the same nations. This YouTube video explains what to expect from such a confederation.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States-Second Edition for Second Obama Term This is a 160 page book for people truly interested in prophecies related to Barack Obama and the United States, including learning about many that have already been fulfilled (which the book documents in detail) and those that will be fulfilled in the future. It also has a chapter about a Republican choice. This book is available to order at The physical book can also be purchased at Amazon from the following link: Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States: Is Barack Obama Fulfilling Biblical, Islamic Catholic, Kenyan, and other America-Related Prophecies? What About Republican Leaders? Second Edition for Second Obama Term.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States-Second Term-Amazon Kindle edition. This electronic version is available for only US$2.99. And you do not need an actual Kindle device to read it. Why? Amazon will allow you to download it to almost any device: Please click HERE to download one of Amazon s Free Reader Apps. After you go to for your free Kindle reader and then go to Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States-Second Term-Amazon Kindle edition.

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