Pope publicly states Church of Rome is willing to change date of Easter/Passover to gain unity with Eastern Orthodox


Lateran Cathedra (Photo by Joyce Thiel, January 2014)

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A reader sent me a link to the following in Italian, which is followed by a machine-translation into English:

Papa agli ortodossi: “Disposti a data comune per la Pasqua”. Sulla questione femminile: “La Chiesa è donna”

12 giugno 2015

DIALOGO ecumenico e ruolo delle donne nella Chiesa al centro del lungo intervento, una ‘meditazione’, che Papa Francesco ha tenuto nella cattedrale di Roma, la Basilica di San Giovanni in Laterano, in occasione del raduno mondiale dei sacerdoti.

Bergoglio, che ha annunciato un prossimo viaggio a novembre in Repubblica Centrafricana e in Uganda (mentre per il Kenya non ci sono certezze), ha annunciato la disponibilità della Chiesa cattolica a stabilire una data fissa sulla Pasqua per celebrare la risurrezione di Cristo, in modo che possa essere festeggiata nello stesso giorno da tutti i cristiani, siano essi cattolici, protestanti o ortodossi.

Il Papa ha definito “molto buono” il rapporto con il patriarca Bartolomeo di Costantinopoli, che, ha rivelato, aveva invitato a Roma per presentare la sua enciclica ecologica la settimana prossima. Francesco ha sottolineato l’esistenza di scambi anche con il patriarca di Mosca Kirill, esprimendo grande fiducia nel prossimo sinodo panortodosso. Sulla Pasqua, ha affermato: “La Chiesa Cattolica è disponibile a rinunciare alla data determinata per la domenica di Pasqua dal primo plenilunio dopo l’equinozio di primavera. Dobbiamo metterci d’accordo e la Chiesa Cattolica è disposta sin dai tempi di Paolo VI a fissare una data e rinunciare al primo solstizio dopo la luna piena di marzo”.

Durante la meditazione, svolta a ‘braccio’ e in lingua spagnola, il Pontefice ha dedicato parole importanti alle donne: “La Chiesa è donna, è sposa di Cristo, è madre del suo popolo di fedeli cristiani” ha sottolineato. Poi ha aggiunto: “Non è femminismo osservare che Maria è molto più importante degli apostoli”, ha aggiunto ancora il Papa.

Pope to Orthodox: “Willing to common date for Easter”. On women’s issues: “The Church is a woman”

June 12, 2015

Ecumenical Dialogue and the role of women in the Church at the center of the long speech, a ‘meditation’, which Pope Francis held in the cathedral of Rome, the Basilica of St. John Lateran, on the occasion of the world meeting of priests.

Bergoglio, who announced an upcoming trip in November in the Central African Republic and Uganda (while for Kenya there are no certainties), today announced the availability of the Catholic Church to establish a fixed date on Easter to celebrate the resurrection of Christ, so that would be celebrated on the same day by all Christians, whether Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox.

The Pope has called “very good” relationship with Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople, which, revealed, had invited him to Rome to present his encyclical ecological next week. Francis pointed out the existence of trade with the Patriarch of Moscow Kirill, expressing great confidence in the next pan-Orthodox synod. On Easter, said: “The Catholic Church is willing to give up the given date for Easter Sunday from the first full moon after the spring equinox. We have to come to an agreement and the Catholic Church is willing since the time of Paul VI set a date and give up the first solstice after the full moon of March. ”

During meditation, turn ‘arm’ and in Spanish, the Pope has dedicated important words to the women: “The Church is a woman, is the bride of Christ, is the mother of his people of the Christian faithful,” he stressed. Then he added: “It is not feminism observe that Maria is far more important of the apostles,” added the Pope.

I would add that the Bible does NOT teach that Mary is far more important than the Apostles.  Notice what the Apostle Paul was inspired to write:

18 Through him, then, we both in the one Spirit have free access to the Father.

19 So you are no longer aliens or foreign visitors; you are fellow-citizens with the holy people of God and part of God’s household.

20 You are built upon the foundations of the apostles and prophets, and Christ Jesus himself is the cornerstone.

21 Every structure knit together in him grows into a holy temple in the Lord;

22 and you too, in him, are being built up into a dwelling-place of God in the Spirit. (Ephesians 2:18-22, New Jerusalem Bible, a Roman Catholic translation)

The foundation of the true Church includes the apostles–Mary is not listed as being more important.  Notice also that Jesus, not Mary, gives Christians access to the Father.  As far as the role of women in the New Testament Church goes, consider checking out the article Women and the New Testament Church.  As far as Mary goes, check out the article Mary, the Mother of Jesus and the Apparitions.

The Papal Archbasilica of St. John Lateran ‘ranks’ above all other Roman Catholic basilicas and cathedrals. It was officially ‘consecrated’ on November 9, 324.  The Church of Rome claims that building contains the official chair or “cathedra” of Peter would be in St. Peter’s Basilica (and perhaps the large black one that has been called “Satan’s Throne,” especially because some believe a part of a chair Peter once owned or sat on is in that) and it would be the primary basilica for the Church of Rome, this is not the case.

Anyway, Pope Francis’ public statement that he is willing to change the date of Easter/Passover (Pasque is what he called it in Italian), is consistent with what I have reported before about the Vatican’s willingness to change whatever doctrines it feels it needs to in order to gain the Eastern Orthodox.

Today, a major public statement was made confirming this.  I, on the other hand, was told this privately over seven years ago when I visited the offices of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople (Bartholomew) in Istanbul, Turkey in 2008.  When there, I was specifically told by a representative of the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople that when Pope Benedict XVI visited earlier, a papal representative of Benedict XVI told Patriarch Bartholomew that Rome would change all doctrines necessary to attain full unity with the Orthodox, if the Orthodox would accept papal authority.  And this definitely included changing Rome’s position on the Filioque clause.  Hence, those associated with the Church of Rome need to understand that this means that the Vatican’s current (and likely future) leadership is willing to compromise on something that it has long held as being of “great dogmatic and historical importance.”

It also needs to be understood that while some of the Eastern Orthodox are looking forward to a Roman Catholic Great Monarch to be the “King of the Romans and the Greeks,”(Tzima Otto, H.  The Great Monarch and WWIII in Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Scriptural Prophecies.  Verenikia Press, Rock Hill (SC), 2000, pp. 5-6) other Greek Orthodox (The Voice of the Fathers) believe that they only should follow a Greek Orthodox future monarch (The Voice of the Fathers is apparently a Greek Orthodox publication that opposes a Roman Catholic, as opposed to Greek Orthodox, Great Monarch, see Tzima Otto, pp, 34-38).  The Orthodox should definitely not follow a Roman Catholic Great Monarch if they wish to follow the teachings of the Bible.

Since Vatican II (a major Catholic ecumenical council that ran from 1962–1965), many Catholics have been justifiably concerned that doctrinal compromise for the sake of ecumenical unity with those outside of fellowship of Rome was inevitable.

The Orthodox have long taught that the Church of Rome (known sometimes as Latins) will change doctrines to those of the Orthodox.  A document known as the Anonymou Prophecy of 1053 refers to this as the “Deferring of the Latins to the error-free faith of the Orthodox,” it then claims “The Orthodox Faith will expand from East to West” (Tzima Otto, p. 116).

Rome wants the Eastern Orthodox to bow to its supremacy and is willing to compromise doctrine and tradition in order to get this.  The Vatican is also willing to, at least now, minimize the amount of primacy/supremacy that the Eastern Orthodox will need to acknowledge in order to get them in Rome’s fold.

Below is the inscription, that is shown in numerous places, on the outside of St. John’s Lateran church:


(Photo by Joyce Thiel)

The inscription from Latin above translated into English means, “Sacred Lateran Church Mother and Head of All Churches of the City and the World.” Notice the following warning against a worldly “mother” church associated with seven-hills:

1One of the seven angels that had the seven bowls came to speak to me, and said, ‘Come here and I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute who is enthroned beside abundant waters,2 with whom all the kings of the earth have prostituted themselves, and who has made all the population of the world drunk with the wine of her adultery.’

3 He took me in spirit to a desert, and there I saw a woman riding a scarlet beast which had seven heads and ten horns and had blasphemous titles written all over it.

4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet and glittered with gold and jewels and pearls, and she was holding a gold winecup filled with the disgusting filth of her prostitution;

5 on her forehead was written a name, a cryptic name: ‘Babylon the Great, the mother of all the prostitutes and all the filthy practices on the earth.’

6 I saw that she was drunk, drunk with the blood of the saints, and the blood of the martyrs of Jesus; and when I saw her, I was completely mystified.

7 The angel said to me, ‘Do you not understand? I will tell you the meaning of this woman, and of the beast she is riding, with the seven heads and the ten horns.

8 ‘The beast you have seen was once alive and is alive no longer; it is yet to come up from the Abyss, but only to go to its destruction. And the people of the world, whose names have not been written since the beginning of the world in the book of life, will be astonished when they see how the beast was once alive and is alive no longer, and is still to come.

9 ‘This calls for shrewdness. The seven heads are the seven hills, on which the woman is sitting. (Revelation 17:1-9, NJB)

Anyway, today’s announcement marks an important step in the Vatican’s plans for unity with the Eastern Orthodox.

Many Protestants and USA Catholics might be surprised to learn that the date commonly called Easter is supposed to be Passover.  The name Easter was chosen because of compromise with pagans who liked to worship the fertility goddess whose name was Ishtar (pronounced the same as the word Easter).

Many might be more surprised to learn that one the first clear differences, historically, between the true Christian Church and the compromised Greco-Roman faiths that claim Christianity was the date of Passover.  Because of antisemitism and fear of persecution from Imperial Roman authorities the Greco-Roman churches in Rome, Alexandria, and Jerusalem (3 of the five so-called apostolic sees) compromised and changed the date of Passover from the 14th of Nisan to a Sunday that normally comes after the 14th of Nisan (the biblical date of Passover).

After the Greco-Romans were able to gain control over Antioch and Constantinople in the third centuries, they tried to change the date of Passover in those regions.  Since there was still some resistance, the matter (as far as the Greco-Romans were concerned) did not get finally resolved until the fourth century sung-god worshiping Emperor Constantine got the Council of Nicea to formally accept the Sunday date.  This, of course, did not persuade everybody, so in the late fourth century, the Roman Emperor Theodosius decreed the death penalty for any who would dare keep the biblical date of the 14th of Nisan.

What all should consider is that the Greco-Romans scholars do acknowledge that the Apostle John kept Passover on the 14th and not on a Sunday.  They would also agree that the Bible teaches:

 18 Children, this is the final hour; you have heard that the Antichristis coming, and now many Antichrists have already come; from this we know that it is the final hour.

19 They have gone from among us, but they never really belonged to us; if they had belonged to us, they would have stayed with us. But this was to prove that not one of them belonged to us.

20 But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and have all received knowledge.

21 I have written to you not because you are ignorant of the truth, but because you are well aware of it, and because no lie can come from the truth. (1 John 2:18-21, NJB)

Yet, one of the first changes that those churches did shortly after the death of the Apostle John was to change the date of Passover to a date he did not observe.  And later, they also changed the meaning of the date from a memorial of Christ’s death to a resurrection holiday that the Apostle John also did not endorse.  The truth is that the Apostle John and Jesus kept Passover on the 14th and did not engage in political/ecumenical compromise to change it.

The compromises that have been made to the original faith that the Apostle John practiced have sadly continued.  What Pope Francis is working towards does NOT have the blessing of the God of the Bible.

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