RCG’s David Pack again tells supporters to send him all their money

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Marc Cebrian, a former Restored Church of God (RCG) employee, listened to a recent sermon by RCG’s David Pack titled The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 378) and reported the following quotes from it:

@ 30:57 “But I would just say to all of God’s people, you know, you’re gonna hafta sell all. You’re gonna hafta keep your lights burning. You’re gonna have to stay stay close to God. There is no evidence that the the seventh era can get salvation through this period [starting in Tammuz]. They’re councelled to buy gold tried in the fire and to overcome as Christ did. That’s gonna be after this period. So, that’s important to understand.”

@ 32:10 “And God’s people around the world, I’m telling you, if you’re sitting on funds, don’t! You’re gonna lose it soon after, anyway. So, why not why not gain eternal life with it? Continue to to be loving and kind. Continue to give alms. Why is that stressed? Because we’re going into a dark period. It’s gonna be hard. People around you don’t love anybody. They have a tremendous amount of love, I should say, for themselves. They’re lovers of their own selves. That’s who they love. Intensely!”

Mark Cebrian has also been part of a series on WCTV about RCG (see Marc Cebrian, former RCG employee, interviewed on WCTV).

That being said, David Pack has long pushed for excessive amounts of money from his supporters.

Back in 2007, David Pack made a plea for the assets of people in his Restored Church of God. David Pack developed his covetousness for members assets into a doctrine he calls ‘common.’ This is supposedly based upon Acts 2:44-45.

David Pack bragged about ‘common’ as one of the doctrines he ‘restored’ in his January 2015 sermon titled First a MOSES, Now ELIJAH–130 Proofs! (Part 1).

In that sermon before getting to his definition of ‘common,’ David Pack teaches he is Elijah and that the late Herbert W. Armstrong was ‘Moses.’ The so-called ‘great doctrine of common’ is one that David Pack claims he restored to the Church of God.

Towards the end of that sermon, he decides to define some terms, like ‘common,’ as he said they have a meaning in RCG that many outside RCG do not know and that they should understand:

Also is the term ‘common.’

Now that’s a term we use to describe what you see in the very beginning of the New Testament church within two or three verses of God building His church on Pentecost A.D. 31. In Acts 2, it says they had everything in common. Now God’s people today have not been taught that. It was my job to teach it. It’s absolutely biblical that what we have we sell, whatsoever we have we give it to God’s work. That’s why we were called.

You’re not allowed to hold on to your own income. It’s all through the Gospels, all through the Book of Acts, and frankly all through the Bible that God’s people have things in common.

This will be the single greatest reason many thousands will not come back to God’s church. But others who see the biblical proof, in verse after verse after verse, of this great doctrine that God has used me to restore. It’s impossible to miss it. They will believe that they have to obey it. They will see that salvation is attached to it just as it was with the rich man in Matthew 19. And they will come ready to carry it out.

That’s the term common.

You’re not allowed to hold on to your own assets.

You have an income. You live a wonderful life. Life goes on normally. But if you were called by God, and you’re to participate in His work, and walk in His ways, you have to you have to turn over your assets to God’s church. That’s the pattern. Acts 2, 3, and 4. It’s what Christ said in the last part of Luke 14…

Be planning to do it.

You’re going to come to be convinced, if you have the Spirit of God, that I am who I say I am. And Mr. Armstrong is who I say he was, and the Bible says who he was. If I am restoring this doctrine, it is incumbent on you to obey it…

And it won’t leave you a pauper. It won’t break your life…And there will be those who obey God and those who don’t.

And when you hear the term common, think of what I will explain to you, because God uses my office to teach truth, not what God’s covetous enemies do not want you to do so that they don’t lose your support. That term is very important…

People do not want you to look into the Bible to see what is impossible, impossible to misunderstand–that is the New Testament church had all things in common. Mr. Armstrong didn’t see it.

Of course, it is NOT “absolutely biblical” that you have to give your assets to the church, beyond tithes and offerings. It is also in conflict with various parts of the Bible, like the following scriptures:

22 A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children, (Proverbs 13:22)

14 Houses and riches are an inheritance from fathers, (Proverbs 19:14)

In order to leave an inheritance to your children’s children you would need to have more assets in your possession than are required for just your basic living. Actually, the NKJV Bible uses the term “inheritance” 254 times, and while some of those references refer to spiritual matters, many are physical. The NKJV Bible uses the term “riches” 92 times, and these often are in a favorable light for those who have them. Having personal assets is biblical.

The Bible even warns about those who would take a person’s inheritance:

1 Woe to those who devise iniquity,
And work out evil on their beds!
At morning light they practice it,
Because it is in the power of their hand.
2 They covet fields and take them by violence,
Also houses, and seize them.
So they oppress a man and his house,
A man and his inheritance. (Micah 2:1-2)

David Pack and those who supporting him should consider if they have devised iniquity and practicing evil through their attempts at what I view as financial oppression.

While David Pack mentioned Acts 2, 3, and 4 in his sermon, let’s go to Acts 5:

1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. 2 And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” (Acts 5:1-4)

Notice the bolded portion. Everyone in the New Testament did NOT turn all their assets over to the NT church. While the NT encourages giving and sharing, it does not state that various wealth Christians, like Lydia the seller of purple, gave away all her assets. Notice the following:

14 Now a certain woman named Lydia heard us. She was a seller of purple from the city of Thyatira, who worshiped God. The Lord opened her heart to heed the things spoken by Paul. 15 And when she and her household were baptized, she begged us, saying, “If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come to my house and stay.” So she persuaded us. …

40 So they went out of the prison and entered the house of Lydia; and when they had seen the brethren, they encouraged them and departed. (Acts 16:14-15)

Notice that it was still HER house later. She still had assets. Notice also the following:

5 Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. 6 He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. (Acts 10:5-6)

Simon the tanner also had his own house (and I saw the place claimed to be that location in October 2013 when I was in Joppa).

Notice also:

12 So, when he had considered this, he came to the house of Mary, the mother of John whose surname was Mark, where many were gathered together praying. (Acts 12:12-13)

7 And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain man named Justus, one who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. (Acts 18:7)

8 On the next day we who were Paul’s companions departed and came to Caesarea, and entered the house of Philip the evangelist, who was one of the seven, and stayed with him. (Acts 21:8)

15 Greet the brethren who are in Laodicea, and Nymphas and the church that is in his house. (Colossians 4:15)

1 To Philemon our beloved friend and fellow laborer, 2 to the beloved Apphia, Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in your house (Philemon 1-2).

While it is true that many in Jerusalem had possessions in common for a time, it is not biblically accurate to teach that this was required of Christians. The Apostle Peter spoke against that, and the numerous examples of Christians keeping their houses also demonstrates the fallacy of David Pack’s arguments. I should also add that the Book of Philemon indicates that Philemon himself had assets, and could even expect the Apostle Paul to pay him back for spending some of them (vs. 19).

Also, the fact that David Pack ties salvation into his ‘common’ doctrine is also wrong. While it is true that Jesus dealt with a particular person who was too attached to his wealth in Luke 14, the pattern of the Bible, Old and New Testaments, is that God’s people held on to their assets, but gave tithes and offerings and tried to be generous (like Abraham, Jacob, David, Joseph of Arimathea, Philemon, etc.). The Bible also endorses personal asset ownership in the millennium:

4 But everyone shall sit under his vine and under his fig tree,
And no one shall make them afraid;
For the mouth of the Lord of hosts has spoken. (Micah 4:4)

10 In that day,’ says the Lord of hosts,
‘Everyone will invite his neighbor
Under his vine and under his fig tree.’ (Zechariah 3:10)

David Pack’s covetousness and use of deceptive words has misled many (2 Peter 2:1-3). This ‘common’ doctrine has also improperly impoverished people who listened to him and/or his ministers.

And it reminds me of what some Hindus do.

In 2014, my wife and I visited Bali, Indonesia. While there, I learned that young men are expected to go greatly in debt to make a small Hindu temple with various trappings along with their new home if they want to be married and be properly acceptable to society. The amount of money this costs is excessive, especially for those whose earnings are as low as most Balinese. I remember thinking that this would likely stop people from leaving the Hindu faith because they had so much of their resources invested in it. RCG has been following suit by demanding more than it is biblically entitled–once they have forfeited assets, this is another way that people are bullied into listening to David Pack.

The other point that I would like to make is that ‘COMMON’ IS NOT WHY thousands did not support David Pack before he taught it. He and his people can try to delude themselves into thinking that the rejection of David Pack’s improper ‘restoration’ is why people will not come with him. Yet, the reality is that he has long had the wrong priorities, doctrine, and focus.

The reality is that David Pack has lacked the proper faith to proclaim the gospel of the kingdom in a manner to fulfill Matthew 24:14. Basically, since at least 2007, he has taught that he needs MONEY to do it. And more than he has. He taught that he thought the Bible was clear that this would happen in 2013 and that thousands would come to him, but that did not happen. So now, instead of admitting that his understanding of Haggai, Zechariah, etc. were wrong, he still clings to the false doctrine, but without a specific date.

Here is some of what David Pack said, in a sermon, apparently given on 11/03/07 to his followers apparently titled Clarion Call — The Time is NOW!:

“Yeah, I know, one or two can leave and say, ‘Hey, you stopped preaching and started meddling, now you’re messing with my goods here on earth’ ”

“First Timothy 6 verse 17…’Charge them that are rich in this world’…If you were born in the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, then you’re rich”

“If you hold those riches, I’m telling you, you trust in them”

“Go get a big chunk out of your home. And put your money where your mouth is and send it here. And I’m not talking about one, two, three thousand either. How about ten, twenty, thirty, fifty, or one hundred thousand dollars? Go do it”

“Wives, you can be independent in this. You have 1/2 the worth of whatever you have in your house. I’m officially telling you this…Wives, legally you have the 1/2 the funds. What are you going to do about it?…Husbands…’well, my wife is not in the church’…tell her…’you don’t have a voice woman’ ”

“Go get those assets and get them here”

“Don’t sit on vast resources that we can use now”

“We are not a splinter”

“I do not covet your silver or gold…the gold and silver is God’s and He will get it someway”

“We do not have the funds…plans…bookstores…We need to redesign our website…We need many hundreds of thousands of dollars to arrive at God’s headquarters soon…the timing is now”

“This is different…ask Him for the faith to liquidate certain assets and give it to the work”

“I’ll say it again, we are talking about liquidating existing assets…it all belongs to God and the brethren”

“We have a lot of plans so big going on in this office it would cause just this room to to rock and gyrate if you knew what was going on. We just need a lot of money and we need it post haste…I would give more if I had it”

“Herbert Armstrong wrote an article…’Prepare to greatly reduce your standard of living’…What he wrote by far, is more for us now than it was then…its all going to be taken away from us anyway brethren”

“There will be follow-up sermons. Time to bring in related points”

“Let us know how much you plan to send and when you plan to send it…You must be willing to communicate…If you do need to counsel, please do that…If you are not ready to distribute what you have…you don’t believe the flow of prophecy”

“This is announcing the last blast, the clarion call as it were, to finish the work…Whether it is 4,5,7, 9 years to go, God knows…This is liquidating assets…I have the authority to tell you to do it…I have the moral and spiritual, and ecclesiastical authority to tell you to do what I have also done”

“Get it now when it requires faith…when you are dead you don’t need it…if you named us in your wills, it can take us months or years to get it”

“The wives in the faith will say give everything you can…We don’t have the luxury of waiting years…today, leaving everything in your will simply doesn’t work”

“Now you just have a second mortgage…and frankly we flee before most of it ever becomes due”

“…some may think that they want to tap their 401k–maybe you want to let us know that…why would you want to tell us? We are starting to prepare a budget now, the needs are now…it would be nice to know now”

“Think big…Pull big triggers”

“There is only two positions you can take regarding all that I have mentioned, only two, there is no middle ground. You’re either going to yield, to submit and to follow, the clarion call that the time is now or you’re not. And postponing a decision is deciding not to do it…It’s saying I’m going to wait until it gets closer because it is not there yet…Don’t say that I’m going to wait until it gets closer, when I can see…The decision is that my treasure stays on earth or I goes to heaven. Period. I will not lay up for times to come or I will. And this is the real test of Laodicea…either hold on to your assets…or give it…God is in this decision, no question. Testing the church’s faith”

“We live in the most materialistic age in the history of the world. People trust in physical things. They trust in bank accounts…If you have excess and don’t need it, those verses mean you…That’s the Laodicean attitude…Put your money where your mouth is…Empty your assets”

“There is only one place He works…Where the…work is…that’s where God is working…one elder commented here at headquarters, if people can’t be motivated by a clarion call to finish the work such as this, why will those same people somehow believe the internal signal given to the church of the 1335? Why would they believe it?”

“This is the Laodicean age…Be careful that you don’t tell us how to spend your assets…It belongs to God..You don’t tell God or His servants how to spend it”

“Your faith is being tested. Think about that”

“We will all fast on November 17th…I have to…ask you for a very special financial sacrifice for God’s work”

“The purposes of the fast…a. To fast for God’s intervention…b.Fast for personal faith and courage to follow what I am asking you to do…c. Fast for personal strength…d…Fast for faith and courage in others with more than you to give…Go get a big chunk out of your house…their assets, IRAs, and pension funds…e. Ask God to move specific properties…that they have told us they want to sell. Pray that these properties move…that is part of what this fast is about”

I have warned people for years that David Pack is not God’s apostle, not the leader of the faithful portion of the COG, etc. It sounds to me like he is excessively trusting in money to do the work. While money is needed to do the work, I felt back then when I first heard this sermon, as well as now, that this is excessive and irresponsible for David Pack to call for people to liquidate their assets well prior to the time to flee. It also seems like covetousness to require what biblically, he is not entitled to. It is biblically irresponsible to tell people to get in debt the way David Pack has done it.

Here is some of what David Pack taught in his nearly three hour RCG 2008: The Great Turning Point sermon in Dec 2007/January 2008:

I’ve been waiting a long time…for the phase of the work that is now upon us…the work will grow large…this next phase begins this year…

Every aspect of our website…will be remodeled…We are going to spend a lot of money. Well into the six-figures…

We are the largest religious publishers in the world…

A new building is now necessary…A new world headquarters’ building for God’s work…We are planning to break ground this year…We proposed phasing four buildings in our plan…

The campus does the work of God…it will also make a powerful statement to the splinters

We are going to have a building fund…it is part of the grand pattern of the past.

He had much of the campus built in 2013 and that is part of why he falsely believed that thousands of others would come to be with him in 2013.

In 2013, David Pack started a series of posts about “reunification.” Basically these posts are based upon a false hope that David Pack has that once he built at least part of his hoped for headquarters buildings, that those in the various COG groups would flock to him. He decided that portions of the Book of Haggai pointed to the fulfillment of his dreams on August 30, 2013. Here are some statements from David Pack’s posts related to his fantasy (boldinghis):

All of God’s people wish they were back together. This is heard everywhere. But these many thousands have come to believe it is “just not time” to be in one organization. If you feel this way, you are about to see why this is wrong. God not only wants His people together again, but is planning to bring it about…If you are in the United Church of God (UCG), Living Church of God (LCG), Philadelphia Church of God (PCG), Church of God, a Worldwide Association (COGwa), or any other splinter or sliver that came out of the WCG, this will be the single most important article you will ever read…the Work of The Restored Church of God is mushrooming and exploding—think of just our media efforts going up like a rocket all over the world! Thousands of letters are arriving each week at our Headquarters, and we now project it cannot be long before this number will be over 10,000…

All Will Come Here!

A towering question faces YOU—and you must confront it: Must every person with God’s Spirit—regardless of where they now attend—come to The Restored Church of God or lose the Holy Spirit? Yes, absolutely! If not, the Scripture would be broken (John 10:35)—and in many places!…You have been duly warned. (Pack D. Back Together Soon, http://rcg.org/sep/gods-people-back-together-soon.html)

Haggai Fulfilled—When Reunification Occurs

Most are by now probably wondering: When will the events described in Haggai take place? Before which Feast of Tabernacles (remember, Haggai means “My Feast”) will brethren be reunified? The answer is found by returning to Haggai 1. Verses 14 and 15 state that “all the remnant of the people…came and did work in the House of the Lord of Hosts, their God, in the four and twentieth day of the sixth month, in the second year of Darius the king.” We saw in an earlier announcement that this is the 24th day of the sixth month (Elul) in God’s sacred calendar.

For now, I will merely state that the prophecy applies to THIS SUMMER—August 30, 2013. (Who Is the Modern Joshua of Haggai and Zechariah? June 29, 2013, http://rcg.org/sep/who-is-the-modern-joshua-of-haggai-and-zechariah)

There are certain immediate implications to Haggai 1:14-15…

First Sabbath Together

Next is the Sabbath of August 31. You may at this time of course believe or disbelieve what follows. You will later be glad it was written and can be readily referenced. Obviously, when the size of the remnant joining us becomes clearer, as well as at least generally where most of these brethren live—countries and cities—more detail can follow…and very quickly. This will include seeing how many ministers are faithful and also where they live—countries and cities.

In six short weeks, the “Church of God landscape” will forever change. Saturday, August 31 will be a Sabbath unlike any other in history. It will be the first time in decades that all of God’s people around the world will be meeting together in the same locations for services. Words cannot describe the excitement and happiness that will be everywhere soon after this reunification. In many areas, much of or possibly even entire congregations might “roll over” into The Restored Church of God. Brethren will have had weeks to prepare for this and to “consider their ways” before God. Those who come will have been led to return to the Body of Christ the day before this Sabbath. Reread this last sentence.

Realize that a host of logistical details must be worked out for this to occur. God has been planning this event for thousands of years—at least 3,000—and His Church has been preparing for it for almost a year. Headquarters and our ministers will be ready to receive potentially a great many phone calls from splinter ministers and members even in the days and weeks before August 31.

The Feast of Tabernacles

Next, the 2013 Feast of Tabernacles: This will also be among the most special and inspiring times in Church history. It will be a Feast of unity and harmony among all of God’s people. Everyone will keep this joyous occasion as members of The Restored Church of God in scores of sites across the world. At this time, we have 21 sites, but we anticipate adding many more. In some areas, former splinter brethren will attend our current sites. In other locations, we will have to quickly add new ones. In still other areas, splinter sites will simply become Restored sites. The total number of Feast sites, and where they are, will depend entirely on how many brethren answer the “stirring” of Jesus Christ to return to His Church, and in what areas they live. Details may begin (and only begin) to come into view on the first of the month of Elul (in God’s calendar—August 7 in the Roman Calendar). A more complete picture will emerge by Elul 24 (August 30). Right now, all are urged to have in their thinking that they will be reassigned to a new nearby Feast site, and those who choose to return to the Body of Christ will attend with what becomes a much bigger organization—probably significantly bigger than the largest splinter! (Crucial Questions—Important Answers! July 19, 2013, http://rcg.org/sep/crucial-questions-important-answers)

Last Friday’s announcement closed with when the Haggai prophecy will occur—that all brethren will be reunited this summer, in time to attend the Feast of Tabernacles together in 2013. (Recall that Haggai means “My Feast.”) This announcement presents 24 reasons for this timing. There is much proof!…The dates revealed in Haggai have nothing whatsoever to do with any decision that I made. God decided that this prophecy would be fulfilled after planning it over 3,000 years ago (it is referenced in several Psalms). I am not so arrogant as to decide what God must do and when. I repeat again, these events in NO WAY parallel the Return of Jesus Christ. This prophecy is directly tied to a date…The men leading PCG, LCG, UCG and COGwa are God’s ENEMIES!…

Now comes a series of reasons Haggai’s prophecy will be fulfilled this year. They are summarized, with only a very little detail added. More could be said of each, but the descriptions given will suffice to those willing to think just a little about them. Realize there are over 30 more reasons—many of them very powerful—that I have left off the list because some will be covered later or because they would only be recognized as proofs by our Headquarters ministry (involving various miracles, some big). Readers would be largely unable to appreciate them as proofs:…

3) Also related, if God waited 2,500 years to reveal the prophecy’s meaning (3,000 years when various related much older Psalms are considered), is not His waiting done? Does His revealing it not signal that He has reached the time to fulfill it rather than having reached a point one, two or three years out?

4) Next, why would God wait longer? What would He wait for? The remnant is absolutely ripe for deliverance.

5) Internally, and this is no small thing, God’s Church is truly ready to expand the Work in a BIG WAY. The prophecy features this as the MAIN PURPOSE of the remnant returning! Without the prophecy’s fulfillment, this expansion would be delayed one year—or more! Why would God notify His Church of the prophecy’s existence at the very same time our staff is ready, our websites are ready, our literature is ready and even God’s college is ready for more students if the prophecy were not imminent? Why would God notify His Church if HE were not ready?

6) Related to this, the buildings on our campus can very soon handle significantly more staff than we have now. This is already true without the other two buildings scheduled for completion in the late fall. However, this extra size works perfectly if the prophecy occurs this year.

7) Also related, but separate, our infrastructure is ready to receive and serve a much larger flock this fall! This includes field ministry being ready, but also other things…

I repeat: There are many more reasons for a 2013 fulfillment, with a few of a personal nature—and others involving God moving miraculously to reveal crucial things at certain times within an extraordinarily complex prophecy that involves hundreds of verses. (Why Reunification THIS YEAR!, posted July 5, 2013 http://rcg.org/sep/why-reunification-this-year)

Complete Destruction!

We learned that God is bringing “desolation” on the splinters…the objective person concludes that God foretells complete desolation of the splinters and slivers…

Some Final Points

Next consider that God has never dealt with people or done with leaders exactly as He plans with the three shepherds. In fact, there may be other miraculous events immediately surrounding this one…

Of course, many are eager to learn “Who are the three shepherds?” We will know soon enough. But we might ask: Which three leaders are the greatest obstructionists to God’s stated purpose in Haggai—returning HIS people to doing HIS Work? (The Final Announcement. August 2, 2013, http://rcg.org/sep/the-final-announcement)

I denounced this at the time, and David Pack was proven to be wrong about his reunification then (he still believes it will happen, but now he is hesitant about date).

He has also had many other false predictions.

For example, here is something posted in 2021 at the News of those once affiliated with the Global Church of God page:

02/02/21 p.m. Someone posted the following related to parts of a sermon by RCG’s David Pack:

Sermon 285

  • 48:50 – In 2014, I explained about the walls of Jericho falling down, now exactly 7 years later [2021 by his count] is when the Father will return. [Unleavened Bread]
  • 49:33 – I knew nothing of this as recently as of last Friday morning…
  • 54:15 – Doubling down on a lot of crazy math. 1,335, 1,290, 11.5 days, 3.5 days, etc…it intersects with Christ’s return and now counts down, not up!
  • 57:18-1:06:47 – If Christ doesn’t come this Friday, allowing the Father to arrive at the last Day of Unleavened Bread, then it blows up the beginning of the 1290 on Trumpets! The Eighth Head then blows up the world!!!! (RCG foretells 8 heads, not 7, as in WCG) [Note: He really locked himself into this one, so when Christ isn’t here on Friday, it will blow up this new picture] 
  • 1:09:16 – More, very specific math and nonsensical time cycles. “The Millennium ends on the Last Day of Unleavened Bread, it’s impossible to argue with it, unless the sun and moon go away. You can’t argue with it! If you want to know the date the Millennium ends its April 3 3028. Dead on! [You are shocked!] I can see the blood loss in your faces, just like the ministers!
  • 1:12:07 – It’s a perfect picture…only the whole thing crashes if Christ doesn’t come this Friday.
  • 1:25:56 – How would God’s messenger [David Pack] eventually know that Jesus Christ was finally coming quickly and in haste? How would he absolutely know the series is over? Simple, a hard date was shown to him that could not be breached. We finally learn how this man knew he finished his charge. He saw a giant blinking red calendar stop sign.
  • 1:26:26 – If this whole picture is wrong I hope you will forgive me, since we will need to move on to some other near term date that I have no idea. …
  • 1:28:40 – God streamed this concluding list through my mind without notes or the Bible. I told my staff, type this message, it was tape recorded just as I speak it, (that is also known as automatic writing) “All Israel rises [will be resurrected] this Friday night! 
  • 1:46:45 – It’s a divine act [Dave’s inspiration in Part 285], if all these prophecies are at stake, would God let me mess up? He had to just stream it into me!
  • 1:49:34 – Sabat 24, is this Friday night. May we now see Christ, the kingdom, all the New Testament saints and all Israel [resurrected] in just over 4 days.

While David Pack needs to repent and then to be forgiven, no, it is not possible for Jesus to return this week. Furthermore, it is not possible for the Millennium to end as early as April 3, 3028.

David Pack is NOT leading God’s work.

As far as who the Bible teaches the work will get done, notice something from Zechariah:

6 So he answered and said to me:

“This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel:
‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
Says the Lord of hosts.
7 ‘Who are you, O great mountain?
Before Zerubbabel you shall become a plain!
And he shall bring forth the capstone
With shouts of “Grace, grace to it!”‘”

8 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying:

9 “The hands of Zerubbabel
Have laid the foundation of this temple;
His hands shall also finish it.
Then you will know
That the Lord of hosts has sent Me to you.
10 For who has despised the day of small things?
For these seven rejoice to see
The plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel.
They are the eyes of the Lord,
Which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth.” (Zechariah 4:6-10)

And that is why we in the Continuing Church of God believe we are leading what I have termed the final phase of the work. We successfully reached millions on very little income, because we have not “despised the day of small things” and we know God will be faithful.

It will be through God’s Spirit, not a bunch of money or buildings intended to impress those outside of RCG to join with RCG as David Pack has long hoped. Sadly, many are still listening to him and his covetous pleas for money.

Of course, I have long warned against RCG, never believed that David Pack was an apostle, and even question whether RCG is actually a COG (though it most likely has quite a few confused members who are). People can do what they want with their assets, but I, of course, will not be one to send RCG any.

I have long felt that the following applied to David Pack:

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. (2 Peter 2:12-14)

18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. (2 Peter 2:18-20)

I believe that David Pack is false, is covetous, causes the way of truth to be blasphemed, is lustful for money, and speaks great swelling words of emptiness because of his own corrupted ego.

Hopefully, people in RCG will wake up. And David Pack basically states in that sermon that those who are faithful in RCG will send him their assets and that the others are not faithful. While David Pack can say what he wants, I consider many of his statements to be false and irresponsible. Sadly, I also believe his position will reflect poorly on the COGs.

A few other comments David Pack made in his 2015 sermon are shown as the news item 02/03/15 p.m. at the News of those once affiliated with the Global Church of God page.

Some items of possibly related interest might include:

RCG: Why Not the Restored Church of God? This group, led by David Pack, claims to be the most faithful. The information in this article suggests otherwise. Here is a version in the Spanish language: ¿Por qué no la Iglesia de Dios Restaurada?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them. Here is a related article in the Spanish language ¿Por qué estar preocupado acerca de falsos y heréticos líderes?
The Elijah Heresies Does the Bible teach that there will be a future Elijah? Must it be Herbert W. Armstrong? Two related sermons are available Elijah: Prophecies and Heresies and Elijah, Herbert W. Armstrong, and CCOG.
How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God There are many false prophets. How can Christians determine who is a true prophet? There is also a sermon-length video titled How to determine if someone is a true prophet of God. Here is a related link in Spanish/español: ¿Cómo determinar si alguien es un verdadero profeta de Dios?
Church of God Leaders on Prophets Have there been prophets throughout the church age? Are any supposed to be around in the last days? What have COG leaders stated or written about prophets? Here is a link to a related sermon: Church of God Leaders on Prophets.
Herbert W. Armstrong, the Philadelphia Church, & the Mantle Herbert Armstrong claims God had him raise the Philadelphia up. Are there reasons to believe that the Philadelphia mantle in now within the CCOG? Here is a link to a related sermon: Herbert W. Armstrong and the Philadelphia Mantle.
How does the Continuing Church of God differ from other Sabbatarian COG groups? There are scores of different groups claiming to be Church of God. How is the Continuing Church of God different?
Leading the Final Phase of the Work Matthew 24:14 will be fulfilled and RCG is not the group doing this. Who is leading the final phase of the work? What did Herbert Armstrong and the old WCG teach about that and about prophets? Does Bob Thiel meet the criteria that the Bible and the old WCG set? What is the proof? What has the Continuing Church of God been doing?
The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now the remnant of that era is basically the most faithful in the Church of God, like who hold to the beliefs and practices of the Continuing Church of God.
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. The Laodiceans are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG or its offshoots. They do not properly understand the work or biblical prophecies and will face the Great Tribulation if they do not repent. One video of related interest is 17 Laodicean Errors in Prophecy. See also Do You Hold to Any of These Laodicean Prophetic Errors?
Are the Laodiceans the Modern Sadducees and Pharisees? Discusses similarities of the Sadducees and Pharisees to various COGs in this end-time.
Does the CCOG have the confirmed signs of Acts 2:17-18? Does any church have the confirmed dream and prophetic signs of Acts 2:17-18? Should one? Here is a link in the Spanish language: ¿Tiene la CCOG confirmadas las señales de Hechos 2: 17-18? Here is a link in the French language: Est-ce que l’Église Continue de Dieu confirme les signes d’Actes 2:17-18? A related sermon in the English language is also available: 17 Last Days’ Signs of the Holy Spirit.

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