‘National security risked by May’s ‘bad’ EU deal, say ex-defence and spy chiefs’ (the EU wants the Five Eyes data)
A reader in New Zealand sent me a link to the following:
National security risked by May’s ‘bad’ EU deal, say ex-defence and spy chiefs
12 January 2019
The ex-head of MI6 and former chief of defence staff have called on MPs to block the Prime Minister’s Withdrawal Agreement, warning it “threatens national security”.
Sir Richard Dearlove and Lord Guthrie wrote to Conservative association chairmen, describing Theresa May’s deal as a “bad agreement” and accusing the EU of demanding a £39 billion “ransom”.
The letter, seen by the Daily Telegraph, states: “Your MP will shortly be called upon to support the Prime Minister’s Withdrawal Agreement. As a former chief of Secret Intelligence, with my colleague Lord Guthrie, who served as chief of the Defence Staff shortly before I was in charge of MI6, we are taking the unprecedented step of writing to advise and to warn you that this agreement, if not defeated, will threaten the national security of the country. Please ensure that your MP does not vote for this bad agreement.”
Citing a letter Sir Richard and Maj Gen Julian Thompson, a Falklands war veteran, wrote to May on November 29, the pair claim the agreement “threatens to change our national security policy by binding us into new sets of EU-controlled relationships”.
They add: “Buried in the agreement is the offer of a ‘new, deep and special relationship’ with the EU in defence, security and intelligence, which cuts across the three fundamentals of our national security policy: membership of Nato, our close bilateral defence and intelligence relationship with the US and the Five Eyes intelligence alliance.
“The first duty of the state, above trade, is the security of its citizens.
“The agreement abrogates this fundamental contract and would place control of aspects of our national security in foreign hands. Please ensure that your MP votes against this bad agreement and supports a sovereign Brexit on WTO rules, without payment of ransom.” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12189225
This is interesting for several reasons, one of which is that these ex-UK officials are indicating that the European Union is a national security threat to the UK.
And actually, it is.
Some in the UK have referred to the current deal as a Brino–BRexit In Name Only–as it still subjects the UK to EU rules, etc. for an indeterminate amount of time, and it has “kicked the can down the street” regarding the border situation between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
A vote in the UK Parliament is scheduled for Tuesday, January 15th.
Now the UK, as well as New Zealand, are part of the Five Eyes alliance with the USA–and the EU officially wants that type of information sharing from the UK.
For those unfamiliar with it, here is what Wikipedia has about the Five Eyes:
Official languages English (de facto) Type Intelligence alliance Contributors Australia
Canada
New Zealand
United Kingdom
United States
Establishment 14 August 1941 17 May 1943 The Five Eyes, often abbreviated as FVEY, is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are parties to the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.[1][2][3]
The origins of the FVEY can be traced back to the post–World War II period, when the Atlantic Charter was issued by the Allies to lay out their goals for a post-war world. During the course of the Cold War, the ECHELON surveillance system was initially developed by the FVEY to monitor the communications of the former Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc, although it is now used to monitor billions of private communications worldwide.[4][5]
In the late 1990s, the existence of ECHELON was disclosed to the public, triggering a major debate in the European Parliament and, to a lesser extent, the United States Congress. As part of efforts in the ongoing War on Terror since 2001, the FVEY further expanded their surveillance capabilities, with much emphasis placed on monitoring the World Wide Web. The former NSA contractor Edward Snowden described the Five Eyes as a “supra-national intelligence organisation that does not answer to the known laws of its own countries”.[6] Documents leaked by Snowden in 2013 revealed that the FVEY have been spying on one another’s citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on surveillance of citizens.[7][8][9][10]
In spite of continued controversy over its methods, the Five Eyes relationship remains one of the most comprehensive known espionage alliances in history.[11]
NSA Headquarters, Fort Meade, Maryland, United States
GCHQ, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom
CSE, Ottawa, Ontario, CanadaSince processed intelligence is gathered from multiple sources, the intelligence shared is not restricted to signals intelligence (SIGINT) and often involves defence intelligence as well as human intelligence (HUMINT) and geospatial intelligence (GEOINT). (Five Eyes. Wikipedia, accessed 01/14/18)
Some in the UK and elsewhere seem to believe (correctly) that the Europeans will get access to intelligence that they will use to threaten security of one or more of the Five Eyes’ members.
And that is correct.
That will happen.
And this is not actually a new concern.
The USA and UK have long been concerned about threats that the continental Europeans may pose–but they have often compromised.
Over five years ago, because the Snowden leaks had information about the Five Eyes that offended the Europeans, including the Germans, notice something the Financial Times reported:
28 October 2013
Confronted with European fury at US spying, Washington is divided over whether its allies’ anger is genuine or a calculation that they can use the revelations to change the terms of intelligence sharing and targeting….
Underlying the debate over Ms Merkel are longstanding and deep tensions over intelligence sharing between the US and European nations such as Germany and France.
The US has for decades, and with few interruptions, shared intelligence with four other countries, the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, under the so-called “five eyes” agreement which includes a proviso that they do not spy on each other.
“Germany and France have long resented this special relationship in intelligence,” said Tim Naftali, of the New America Foundation. “But the question is whether [France and Germany] would be able to accept the co-ordination of their foreign policies that comes along with the agreement.”
When intelligence agencies discuss targeting they are giving away what they know, said Mr Naftali. “Is the US prepared to do that across the board with France and Germany?” http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b9fc90ae-3ff4-11e3-a890-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2j7WaaEUy
So, now the USA IS sharing more espionage information with Germany and France.
This will not end well for the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, or New Zealand.
The reality is that the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are considered to be more trustworthy as far as the USA goes than continental Europe–but now the USA has decided to share more with others like Germany.
Now, this IS consistent with something former US President Barack Obama reportedly stated as, according to a German source (the following was machine-translated into English from German), the USA will give the Europeans a lot of information:
2 July 2013
Obama promises EU all the information
Given the outrage over the U.S. spy in Europe, the U.S. president tried to relax. He also justified for intelligence operations. http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2013-07/snowden-brief-usa-prozess
This basically was confirmed by US Secretary of State John Kerry in November 2013:
November 5, 2013
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says the Obama administration will work more closely with allies to overcome privacy concerns raised by the revelation of U.S. intelligence operations in Europe. In Poland, Kerry discussed the spy scandal and efforts to end Syria’s civil war.
Kerry says the Obama administration welcomes the opportunity to discuss concerns raised by the disclosure of U.S. eavesdropping as Washington and its European allies are all trying to balance the protection and privacy of their citizens.
“Ultimately if we get it right, which we will, we can not only alleviate concerns but we can actually strengthen our intelligence relationships going forward, and we can all be more secure and safer as a result as well as protecting the privacy of citizens,” he said. http://www.voanews.com/content/kerry-us-to-work-closely-with-allies-over-surveillance-concerns/1783733.html
This is not ‘intelligence strengthening’–the Europeans were very angry–this was appeasement. The Europeans are now also very angry at US President Trump.
So now the USA is now ‘sharing’ more intelligence with the Germans and other Europeans. And some UK Leaders are now concerned about what they will have to share with the EU.
The ramifications of this are staggering. Appeasement does not have a great track record in preventing wars as those who followed Nevil Chamberlain will remember. But appeasement is part of what the USA appears to be trying to do.
The statements from US Secretary of State Kerry, as well as the Reuters’ report, provide further support of my assessment that the USA will help Europe by giving it strategic advantages against the USA and UK when someone there decides war against them needs to happen (Isaiah 10:5-11). This will not bode well for the USA in the long run–this sharing of intelligence will help the coming European Beast power takeover the land that had the strongest military/fortresses in the world (cf. Daniel 11:39). These ‘intelligence’ matters are that important.
Yet few Americans consider that any real threat will come from Germany and Europe. But according to biblical prophecy the final Beast power (Revelation 13; Daniel 11) will arise in Europe, and this will result in the takeover of the USA and its Anglo-descended allies (cf. Daniel 11:39; see also USA in Prophecy: The Strongest Fortresses).
And as far as Europe and the military goes, it has taken steps to develop its multi-national military called PESCO as reported on this COGwriter Church of God News (see PESCO: The making of a European Defence Union and ‘PESCO is not about peace, it is about preparing for EU wars’ and With PESCO, EU entering a ‘New Era’: An era that will NOT end well for the USA, Canada, or the UK).
The Continuing Church of God (CCOG) has the following video on our Bible News Prophecy YouTube channel:
PESCO and a Great European Army
In November 2018, French President Macron called for a “true European army” because of China, Russia, and the USA. Some others in Europe have echoed that sentiment. On November 9, 2018, US President Donald Trump called that an insult, but the next day said that the USA wanted “a very strong Europe.” Emmanuel Macron referred to Donald Trump as “my friend” and indicated a desire to strengthen Europe’s military spending. In December 2017, 25 European nations agreed to be part of a military alliance called PESCO. Europe also has NATO and IEI. Will Europe end up with “a great army”? Has Donald Trump’s announcement to withdraw from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty gotten some to say that Europe must rebel against the USA? Is the idea of a United States of Europe and a European army a “paranoid fantasy” or a biblical reality? Will the USA regret Europe becoming a stronger military power? Will the USA be betrayed by “friends” such as its continental European allies? Does the Bible teach any or all of this? Are there connections to the Beast of Revelation or the King of the North of Daniel 11? Dr. Thiel addresses these matters in this video.
Here is a link to the sermonette video: PESCO and a Great European Army.
Furthermore, Europe’s Galileo satellite system plans initially had US (and UK) critics as there were “early objections from the Americans who thought a rival system to GPS might be used to attack its armed forces” (Amos J. EU awards Galileo satellite-navigation contracts. BBC, Jan 7, 2010. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8442090.stm). So when Galileo was first proposed, American leaders opposed it as they felt it could be used militarily against the USA.
Notice also a letter from the then U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz in which he was part of a campaign against Europe developing Galileo:
But this opposition was reversed by the Obama Administration.
This, as I reported at the time (see USA GPS and EU Galileo linking was expected), was dangerous, and remains so. But I expected it, and so warned about it in a book I wrote in 2009. Notice that page 85 of that book 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect states the following:
In 2013, the Europeans are planning on having their own global positioning system (GPS), called Galileo, available for military applications. This will allow the Europeans to track the world and attack others without relying on the U.S.A.’s GPS. This will be the first time in the 21st century that Europeans will be able to have that type of independent military capability.
Furthermore, according to a 2009 report from the U.S. government, the U.S. Air Force may have to start relying on the European Galileo system (at least to a degree) beginning in 2013, as the U.S. GPS capabilities are expected to deteriorate by then (other problems are also appearing in the newer U.S. satellites). Because the Europeans will be able to control Galileo, they will also likely be capable of derailing certain sophisticated U.S. military applications. This will give the Europeans a unique defensive (as well as offensive) capability that no others on the planet will have.
When I wrote that in May of 2009, the U.S. Air Force denied that there was such a problem. Yet, in late July 2010, the USA did announce it would rely on Galileo for part of its military defense (see USA GPS and EU Galileo linking was expected). Galileo was partially operational in 2013 and is getting more operational as it moves forward.
A 2017 report showed problems related to the USA and Galileo:
November 16, 2017
Though lawmakers have made clear their interest in having U.S. military receivers incorporate European navigation signals, an agreement to use the encrypted Galileo signal remains elusive and the normal military requirements process could substantially delay implementation. http://insidegnss.com/delay-continues-for-effort-to-add-galileo-signal-to-u-s-military-receivers/
It will only be a few years before the USA will not have the lead in this type of technology. And while some believe that the USA will overcome this, the reality is that the Europeans may decide to take advantage of their lead once they have it.
The Galileo and PESCO projects are absolute proof that Europe wants to function independently of the USA and UK and wants to be ahead of it technologically. Steps for this continue to take place.
The two major world leaders, who were not in the UK, that backed the Brexit vote were the USA’s Donald Trump (then a candidate for the President of the United States) and Marine Le Pen (currently a political figure in France).
The time of Jacob’s trouble (Jeremiah 30:7), also known as the Great Tribulation, is coming. The UK will be affected by it.
The UK itself will one day be taken over by a European power (Daniel 8:24-25)–as will the USA (Daniel 11:39; see also USA in Prophecy: The Strongest Fortresses).
Yet that will not be this year, next year, nor during the first term of the Donald Trump Administration. But events, like the Brexit situation, are setting the stage for this to ultimately happen.
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