Vladimir Putin, Pope Francis, and Medjugorje

Medjugorje Icon at Podbrdo, place of apparition (Beemwej)


Vladimir Putin met with Italy’s Prime Minister and then Pope Francis:

June 10, 2015

The pope, a frequent critic of military action, has taken a cautious approach to criticism of Russia since its annexation of Crimea…

Putin arrived in a stretch limousine at the Vatican more than an hour late for his meeting, after flying from Milan, where he had met Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi earlier in the day.

Pope Francis has also sought to strengthen ties with the Russian Orthodox church as part of a broader aim to promote Christian unity. Hackett added that Putin had in the past discussed his concern for Christians who were being persecuted in the Middle East, particularly in Syria. …

Putin has been treated to a far warmer welcome in Italy than he would get in any of the other large EU countries. …

A report in Crux, the online news site, noted that Francis and Putin were something of an “odd geopolitical couple” who had formed an “improbably strong partnership”. It began after the pope sent a letter to Putin in 2013 – before the G20 meeting in Moscow – urging leaders to find a non-military solution to the conflict in Syria. In his talk with other world leaders, Putin reportedly quoted from the pope’s letter, saying: “We might listen to the pope.” No military action was taken.

Putin has also spoken out about the “dire” situation facing Christians in the Middle East who are being persecuted and killed – a topic that is frequently also mentioned by the pope. The pontiff has chided world leaders for seeking to diminish anti-Christian violence and the topic was likely raised on Wednesday.  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/10/pope-francis-urged-to-take-tougher-stance-against-vladimir-putin

June 10, 2015

Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzo met with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday in Milan, where the two leaders were attending the Expo 2015 international fair.  http://www.voanews.com/content/italian-pm-meets-with-russia-putin/2815859.html

June 10, 2015

VATICAN CITY — A serious-looking Pope Francis met Wednesday with Russian President Vladimir Putin, a talk focused on conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East that pose complex and contrasting diplomatic challenges for the two leaders.

Francis spent 50 minutes in a private meeting with Putin…

A serious atmosphere reportedly hung over the start of the Vatican visit, with the pope lacking his usual jovial persona.

Putin was greeted by Archbishop Georg Ganswein, head of the papal household, and a line of dignitaries before being ushered inside to see Francis.

During the meeting, the pope affirmed the need to work sincerely toward peace in Ukraine and emphasized the importance of rebuilding a climate of dialogue, Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi said afterward.

The pope also talked about the grave humanitarian situation in the country and the need to give access to relief workers, Lombardi said. …

Francis gave Putin the “Angel of Peace” medal, which the pope said has the ability to create solidarity between populations.

The two reportedly discussed Syria and Iraq, too.

Putin has positioned himself as a champion of beleaguered Christian minorities in war-ravaged countries such as Syria and Iraq, and protecting those communities is also a priority for Francis.  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/10/putin-pope-meet-vatican/71007412/

June 10, 2015

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis met privately with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Vatican on Wednesday, using the talks to call for a sincere effort aimed at bringing peace to Ukraine.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said their talks concentrated on the Ukraine conflict and the Middle East, where the Holy See is worried about the fate of the Christian minority.

Putin earlier Wednesday met Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi in Milan and arrived an hour late to the meeting at the Vatican — his second with Francis since he became pope in 2013.

Lombardi said Francis stressed the need “to commit oneself in a sincere and great effort to bring” peace to Ukraine, through dialogue and implementation of the Minsk accords. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/06/10/world/europe/ap-eu-italy-putin.html?_r=0

Pope Francis also gave Palestinian Authority President Abbas an ‘angel of peace’ recently (see Pope Francis calls Palestinian President an ‘angel of peace’).  Whether Pope Francis actually called Vladimir Putin an ‘angel of peace’ was not reported.  Because of Vladimir Putin’s favor towards Vatican City, his resistance to aspects of the homosexual agenda, and certain other steps he has taken, he has a special place in the heart of the Pope.

Since Pope Francis and Vladimir Putin have gotten along well in the past, I doubted that Pope Francis would be publicly stern about anything associated with the Russian President.

Pope Francis wants unity with the Eastern Orthodox badly.  Leading Greek Orthodox bishops have blasted Pope Francis (see Many Greek Orthodox do NOT want to accept the Pope’s ecumenical agenda nor view of history), so presumably he believes that working towards an agreement with the Russian Orthodox (the most numerous of the branches of that religion) is more realistic.  Pope Francis does not want to mess up his own ecumenical agenda.  Vladimir Putin is Russian Orthodox.

Another thing that Vladimir Putin and Pope Francis have interest in is their version of ‘Mary.’  On his last visit in 2013, Vladimir Putin gave the pontiff an old Marian icon that both he and the pontiff kissed (see Russia’s Putin and Pope Francis both kiss Marian icon).

Pope Francis hopes that unity with some of the Eastern Orthodox as well as his Marian views will help lead to the type of ecumenical unity he and some others have long wanted.  Vladimir Putin is not opposed to cooperation with the Vatican, so politically this can work for both, though Pope Francis also does not want to upset Catholics nor the Ukrainian Orthodox.

But Russia is a bigger piece of the pie, so to speak.

It may partially because of potential ‘pieces of the pie’ that Pope Francis made what seems to be a disparaging comment about the false Marian apparition at Medjugorje today.  A reader sent me a link to the following:

June 9, 2015

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis gave a hint Tuesday about his take on the reportedapparitions of the Virgin Mary at the Medjugorje shrine in southern Bosnia, dismissing a reliance on regular visions of the Madonna as mere “novelty-seeking” for the faithful.

Francis spoke during his morning homily, three days after making a day trip to Sarajevo. En route home, Francis told reporters the Vatican would soon decide whether to formally recognize the Medjugorje phenomenon as authentic.

In his homily, Francis dismissed those “who always need novelty in their Christian identity” and say: “But where are the visionaries who tell us today about ‘The letter that the Madonna will send tomorrow at 4 p.m.?'”

“This isn’t Christian identity,” he said.  “God’s last word is called Jesus and nothing more.”

The Medjugorje apparition has been disputed since 1981, when six youths said they had regularly seen visions of the Virgin there. Unlike Fatima in Portugal or Lourdes in France, the Vatican has been cautious about calling the sightings authentic. Neither Rome nor the local diocese has approved Medjugorje as an official shrine site and the Vatican has told dioceses not to organize official pilgrimages there.    http://news.yahoo.com/medjugorje-decision-nears-pope-dismisses-visionaries-161840266.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

I fully agree with Pope Francis that these false Marian messages are not from God.  No ‘Marian’ apparition message has come from God, including Fatima (of which I wrote a book about).

Medjugorge should be simple for Catholics to denounce because of the content of some of the messages given in them are blatant contradictions to some Church of Rome positions.

The Vatican has been expected to issue a position on Medjugorje (see ).  It is possible that it considers this false ‘Marian’ apparition to be too far out there to promote.

The Vatican still has an ecumenical and interfaith agenda, and the Eastern Orthodox and Marian apparitions remain part of it.

For more information, please check out the following:

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