James Malm Now Predicts October 19, 2009

People Who Make Predictions Need to Be Sure that the Bible Supports those Predictions


This week, I received the following in an email from James Malm:

Dear Robert
Because I had told you in the past that no changes had been made to the  70 Weeks Prophecy article, I feel responsible to inform you that the article has been expanded and edited…

I have stated that If this is the year, the Final False Prophet will be set up 1,335 days prior to the day BEFORE Pentecost in 2013.  I have said that this date will be 3 Oct, if my calculations are correct.  It turns out that the calculation was not correct.  I had made an error which has been pointed out to me and I have since rechecked this calculation.  The date should be 19 Oct 09; NOT 3 Oct 09.  This is based on the Biblical Calendar…(Malm J. Email, July 19, 2009).

Here was my response:

Dear James:
You know that I disagree with you.  I will post some of the following and once again explain part of why I feel that your dates are in error.
Eventually, perhaps you will relook into your situation and realize that God wants the Philadelphians together and those who make themselves independent are leaning to their own understanding too much.
Bob Thiel

As I have mentioned in many posts (including one last night titled Europeans Pressure Israel), because the deal in Daniel 9:27 has not yet occurred, it is not possible for the 1335 days to begin prior to the year 2013.  Furthermore, as there still is NO King of the North, NO King of the South, AND Europe does not have the military might it needs yet, etc., it is simply not biblically possible for the 1335 days to begin this year.  Furthermore, Matthew 24:14 has not, in my opinion, been fulfilled enough for the end to come.  And while events to fulfill those biblical requirements are in progress, they are simply not far enough along for James Malm to possibly be right.  His predictions are false.

Long time readers of this page may recall that I disagreed with James Malm in December 2007 (At Least Two Wrongly Claim Great Tribulation Will Begin in 2008) and also in 2008 (One More Pope?), when he claimed:

While the timing of this Festival is determined by the observance of the New Moon, the sixth day of this Festival is expected on 12 Apr 2012. Counting back from then, 1290 days, means that; the final false prophet we are awaiting, should be revealed around 30 Sep 2008 (Malm J. November 7, 2007 article titled “2008 in Prophecy).

Please, do not confuse me with R Weinland. I strongly disagree with most of what he says. For one thing I endeavour to provide scriptural backing for everything that I say. However I do say that 2008 is a critical year. As stated on the website I expect the Abomination (the man of sin) to be set up at the end of Sep and to go to the Holy Place within 75 days, triggering the occupation of Jerusalem. We shall know soon enough if I am correct! (Malm J. Email, December 2007)

In August 2008, in response to my posts related to him, James Malm contacted me and issued me a challenge (see James Malm Challenges COGwriter).  He then later admitted that he was in error, but then claimed:

The only possible years for the 1335 days to begin in the forseeable future are 2008 or 2009…

In short the last day of the 1335 days may occur on the day before Pentecost, making the Feast of Pentecost representative of a NEW BEGINNING IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD. If this is true, and I shall study it further; the final False Prophet will be set up on 3 Oct 2009! (Malm. J. 2008 and Prophecy, 30 SEP 08).

I will go on record once again and state that the 1335 days cannot begin in 2009 nor prior to 2013. The Bible and world events simply do not allow for this. Do not be misled by him or anyone else on this (Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders?).  For James Malm to claim that “only possible years for the 1335 days to begin in the forseeable future are 2008 or 2009” is irresponsible and false.

I have probably pointed out several times this year that the predictions of many related to 2009 were in error. This is based upon checking the predictions with the Bible and world events.  People need to check what the Bible teaches and not be misled.  That is actually part of the reason that God has provided a ministry in His Church:

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head–Christ– 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love (Ephesians 4:11-16).

We in the Living Church of God believe what God inspired the Apostle Paul to write.

As I have written many times, however, while the end will come, the Great Tribulation (nor the 1335 days that precede it by 75 days) CANNOT BEGIN BEFORE 2013.

Those interested in learning more about why may wish to read the following articles:

Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
Is There A Future King of the South? Some no longer believe there needs to be. Might Egypt, Islam, Iran, Arabs, or Ethiopia be involved? What does the Bible say?
Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2009, 2010, or 2011? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord?
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? There is a Mayan calendar prediction for change in 2012. 2012 changes were also centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans (the Hindus may have some predictions for the next decade as well). Do these Mayan/Hindu/Hopi prophecies have any value? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012?
Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical? Which form of governance would one expect to have in the Philadelphia remnant? The people decide and/or committee forms, odd dictatorships, or the same type that the Philadelphia era itself had?
Independent Members of the COG: Herbert W. Armstrong Comments, Plus Questions and Answers What did Herbert W. Armstrong teach about being independent of the organized Church? Should independents who claim to accept Herbert W. Armstrong’s teachings be part of LCG?
The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now basically the Living Church of God.
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.
There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to more easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG/GCI members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.

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