Guttenbergs’ Popularity Rising: Could He Become the King of the North?


The front cover of the latest Der Spiegel features Stephanie zu Guttenberg and her husband Karl.  The Guttenbergs are gaining popularity in Germany.  Notice the following:

Yesterday Mr zu Guttenberg and his glamorous wife Stephanie were pictured on the front cover of Der Spiegel magazine asThe fabulous zu Guttenbergs“. (Independent, UK – Oct 18, 2010.
“The CSU leader and premier of Bavaria state, Horst Seehofer, said last week that reports that Guttenberg might be after his job were ‘mush.’  Officials quickly pointed out that the Bavarian constitution reserves the premiership to persons 40 or older.  Guttenberg’s 40th birthday is not till November 3 next year.” (M&C – Oct 19, 2010.
Nearly a quarter of voters believe the conservative rising star Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg would make a better chancellor than the embattled Angela Merkel, a poll published Wednesday found…The poll comes amid growing speculation that Defence Minister Guttenberg, a member of the Bavarian Christian Social Union (CSU), is likely to become leader of his party and has a strong chance to become the nation’s chancellor….Guttenberg, 38, is easily the country’s most popular politician at the moment – a title long held by Merkel. In a recent poll, his approval rating of 70 percent positively dwarfed her 40 percent. (The Local – Oct 20, 2010.
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, 38, is the current defense minister and a rising star in the Christian Social Union (CSU), the Bavarian sister party to Merkel’s CDU. The generally well-sourced FAZ wrote that he is “at the center of the speculation” about a possible successor to Merkel as chancellor. Guttenberg is not just young but also well-groomed and popular among female voters…Guttenberg has proved to be a flexible, ambitious politician. He comes from an old, upper-crust southern German family. (Spiegel – Oct 13, 2010.,1518,722997,00.html)

I started reporting about Karl Guttenberg late last year when I noticed that a Canadian reporter suggested that he could be the man the Europe would turn to to lead it.  And while that has not happened yet, if it does, Baron Karl Guttenberg could very well become the final King of the North, the Beast of Revelation 13.

Here are 20 items to consider:

  1. Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is a leader from middle Europe and has a Franco-German bloodline.
  2. He has a military background.  The Beast of Revelation 13 is shown to be a military political leader.
  3. He is considered to have some economic expertise.
  4. He is an extremely popular politician (he was the most popular in Germany in early and late 2010).
  5. He is considered an expert on foreign policy.
  6. He is currently “Minister of Defence” for Germany.
  7. He is some type of Catholic.
  8. Because he is married to a Lutheran (and she apparently did not convert prior to marriage), he apparently is not super strict about being Catholic (some other news reports I have seen also seem to confirm this in other ways as well).
  9. His wife also has political connections, and has made several public  “morality statements”.  Hence suggesting that the Guttenbergs represent the moral high ground in Germany.
  10. He seems to have ecumenical tendencies, and that is what the “Great Monarch” of Catholic prophecies and the final Beast of Revelation would likely have.
  11. He is a descendant of the Habsburg line of rulers (the Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire were from the Habsburg line).
  12. Charlemagne was a Frank-German leader and “Holy Roman Emperor”.  Certain Catholic prophecies indicate that the “Great Monarch” will be a descendant of Charlemagne.
  13. His blood line crosses into various countries in Europe (at least Germany, France, Austria, Liechtenstein, and Croatia).
  14. He has the right to select the priest for his parish.  Hence, the idea that political leaders should be involved with religion is something he was raised up believing. A leader combining church and state is prophesied in Daniel 11:37-38 and Revelation 13.
  15. The understanding that his title means “Baron of the Holy Roman Empire” is interesting as the Book of Revelation describes a power that would resemble a re-emergence of “the Holy Roman Empire” and Catholic prophecy specifically tells of a time when “The Great King will be crowned Holy Roman Emperor by the reigning Pope” (Birch DA. Trial, Tribulation & Triumph: Before During and After Antichrist. Queenship Publishing Company, Goleta (CA), 1996,, p. 555).
  16. The fact that he is the most popular political leader in Germany suggests that he has a certain charisma that would be consistent with that which is expected for the final Beast leader.
  17. Because one of his relatives was involved in a plot against Hitler in 1944, he may be perceived as less of a threat than others with a German background.
  18. He is considered to be a smooth talking attractive leader.
  19. Some of his entertainment actions suggest that beneath his exterior he may have certain “vile” tendencies (cf. Daniel 11:21).
  20. He has risen to powerful positions quite quickly.  And may do that again.

To slightly expand on point 14, notice the following news account that suggests his wife’s attitude is that the state is above the Catholic church:

…Stephanie zu Guttenberg, the head of a leading child protection group and wife of Defence Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, who called on the state to get tougher on abuse rather than leave it to the Church…Guttenberg, who is the German president of the anti-abuse group Innocence in Danger, said the state could not leave it to the Church alone to pursue abuse.

“Priests and clergymen are citizens of the Federeral Republic of Germany. And if a citizen here commits a crime, then that must be punished through the institutions of the state,” she told reporters at a fundraising event Monday evening. (Minister calls for abuse compensation. The Local: German News in English, 9 Mar 10. viewed 03/09/10)

So, if Baron Guttenberg has a similar attitude to his wife, he may feel that the state has the obligation to be above the Catholic church–a view that seems consistent with one that the King of the North has (cf. Daniel 11:36-38).

As I have stated before, if Karl Guttenberg is part of a major Middle East peace deal, if he establishes armies (or a great army with a strong military capacity), and if he establishes something like a new religious order within his version of the “Catholic” faith, he should be looked at as fulfilling prophecies related to the final King of the North.

Of course, if Karl Guttenberg ultimately does gain the top job in a restructured Europe AND if there are various signs and wonders at and after that time, cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12, all would be wise to realize that he pretty much is the one who will likely be the final King of the North (despite the type of denials that would be expected).

On the other hand, Karl Guttenberg could simply be a rising politician, like many others.  We will see.  But Karl Guttenberg does seem, for now at least, to be rising (and he could fall and still rise to the top job) and is one to watch.

Some items for further related study may include:

Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Could He Become “the Beast”? What makes the German Defense Minister a candidate?
Who is the King of the North?
Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe?

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