Jesus not returning May 19, 2013; Might Great Tribulation begin in 2013?

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Is Jesus coming this month? Can the Great Tribulation begin in 2013?

Do any believe that it will or might? Some seem to think so.

The imprisoned (for tax evasion which he denies) self-appointed false prophet and false apostle, Ronald Weinland of the Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God (CGPFKF), wrote the following which ended up being dated today:

May 9, 2013

As I write this, as of this moment (the weekly Sabbath), we are two weeks away from Pentecost 2013…

The “topping on the cake” or the crescendo to all of this is that the one leading this group is in prison, having been convicted of purposely evading the payment of taxes to his government, which is so very untrue, and those items picked out to prove the case were twisted, untrue, and conjured up to paint a picture that was also false…

Today, as I continue to write this post, it is now two weeks to Pentecost. In the back of my mind I have had concern about how well God’s Church would do if there is more that will be revealed to us (more to learn and have molded in us) if Christ does not return on this Pentecost. Today, I am not concerned, but I am bolder, more confident than ever, and filled with the strongest faith yet concerning God’s perfect creation that He is working in His Church. We live by “what is” and we do not panic and we do not fear the “what if’s.” We know we are on the road to Pentecost and that Christ will return on Pentecost   “a” Pentecost   whatever Pentecost God so determines. My hope is that it is still this Pentecost of 2013, but I also know we could be given more from God   much more   that we do not yet have…

I hope and pray Christ returns this Pentecost of 2013. If it is not, we will go forward and God will reveal far more to us about the greater purpose He has as to what we are to live.

Last year, Ron Weinland proclaimed with his version of certainty that Jesus would return on Pentecost 2012.  Now, having been wrong at least twice before, he has made it less certain.  That is probably a good idea for him as there is no way Jesus will return on Pentecost 2013.

Ron Weinland wrote the following in late April 2013:


We are now just a few weeks away from Pentecost and of our hope in the return of Jesus as the ruling Messiah   the Christ.

Pentecost in May 19, 2013.  But Jesus cannot and will not return then.  This is Ronald Weinland’s third false date for the return of Jesus Christ.  While more paid attention to his first two dates, as his false dates have discredited him further, few are interested in his position.  But, he will be shown to be wrong later this month.

What about the start of the Great Tribulation?

Ronald Weinland actually says it began in December 2008, but Jesus said:

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.  22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. (Matthew 24:21-22)

Since that has not happened, we can all be certain that the Great Tribulation did not begin then.

James Malm (a blogger who claims COG ties but, in my view, often makes biblically-impossible speculations) posted the following last week:

Prophetic Events Falling Into Place for Possible End 2013 Tribulation

…a peace process is being planned for the Middle East, with the coming war setting the mood; to be quickly followed by an international conference of religious leaders of all faiths; but principally Catholic, Protestant, Islamic and Jewish religions to demand an end to war and a peace agreement.  

The war will set the public mood for making peace, while this international religious meet will serve to allow the papacy to use the violence and desire for peace, to further the papal effort to seize moral leadership of all religions.  The meet will also add religious and moral weight to a genuine dialogue for peace in the region.

The peace  deal is already made, except for dotting a few i’s about the exchanges of territory and minor issues.

1 Thess 5:2   For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night [upon the wicked]. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

The repentant and zealously obedient who have heeded the warnings will be watching; and will NOT be taken by surprise.

Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Yesterday the Arab League announced that they will now accept possible land exchanges into the Arab Peace proposal…

Things seem to be lining up with a war to reset the regional realities, and establish a mood for  peace in Israel and the region.  The war is to be followed by calls for genuine peace talks including a conference of religious leaders under the auspices of pope Francis.  This is to be followed by a genuine dialogue for peace to cross the t’s and dot the i’s on a plan that has already been achieved…

Although it is not a guarantee, there is a very high possibility that a peace deal can be achieved and peace keepers brought in by the end of this year.

Although James Malm is correct that there needs to be some type of apparent peace deal prior to the start of the Great Tribulation, even if the deal he is referring to is confirmed this Fall and is the deal of Daniel 9:27, the Great Tribulation itself will not start until about 3 1/2 years afterwards–which would likely put it 2017 at the very earliest.

Notice that in the book of Daniel there is a prophecy related to the end times that states:

26 And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate (Daniel 9:26-27).

There are several reasons that this “prince” is referring to the leader of the developing European empire (see King of the North and Europa, the Beast, and the Book of Revelation). One is that it was the people of the Roman Empire of the 1st century that fulfilled the portion of Daniel 9:26 as they destroyed the city (Jerusalem) in 70 A.D. The European Union includes much of the land and peoples that were part of the ancient Roman Empire.  And it is the “prince” coming from that people that verse 27 is referring to. Thus, this prophecy tells us that a lower level European leader will officially start to rise up about 3 1/2 years before the great tribulation (and yes, according to Jesus, some “tribulation” does happen prior to the start of the Great Tribulation). Another is the fact that the “beast of the sea” (Revelation 13:1) fits with the beasts from the “great sea” (Daniel 7:2)–and that is the Mediterranean Sea according to the Old Testament–hence this is an empire like the old Roman one (for more details, please see Europa, the Beast, and the Book of Revelation).

For the past several years, James Malm has had a tendency to have the Great Tribulation start within 1-2 years of some date (which is consistent with his above inaccurate speculation posted on May 1, 2013). I have denounced his dates many times and of course, have been right every time and his dates have proven to be repeatedly wrong.

There is no possibility that the Great Tribulation can happen in 2013 or 2014 and those who rely on the Bible have realized this for at least the past three years. It is only those who overlook scripture and rely on their own views who make the mistake of thinking that the Great Tribulation can, or could, happen in 2013.

Since the Great Tribulation will not start before there is an actual King of the South and an actual final King of the North)–and while the “prince” will apparently confirm a peace deal with Israel (probably somewhat including the United States and some Arab lands as part of the “many” in Daniel 9:27), Daniel 11:27 requires two kings, which suggests that the future “prince” will gain more and more importance after the deal in Daniel 9:27 (for more information on the sequence of Daniel 11, please see the article the King of the North).

It may take a regional or other war in the Middle East to trigger a peace deal. And if Isaiah 17:1 concerning the destruction of Damascus is to be fulfilled prior to the start of the Great Tribulation, the destruction of Damascus in Syria should be a clear sign to those who discount biblical prophecy that Bible prophecy will come to pass. Damascus has claimed to the longest continuously inhabited city on the earth and its destruction would be unprecedented.

The sequence is that sometime after the peace deal is confirmed (Daniel 9:27), sacrifices begin (cf. Daniel 9:27), the gospel will have been preached enough to the world as a witness for the end to come (Matthew 24:14), Jewish sacrifices will be stopped (Daniel 9:27), the abomination of desolation will then be set up by supporters of the King of the North (Daniel 9:27; 11:31; Matthew 24:15), a decree is issued (Zechariah 2:1), then the most faithful Philadelphians will flee per Jesus’ statements in Matthew 24:15-19 (see There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra), and the Great Tribulation will begin (Matthew 24:21; Daniel 12:1b). This should be about 3 1/2 years after the peace deal is confirmed, and right after the King of the North tries to proclaim peace and safety (1 Thessalonians 5:3) to throw people off (cf. Daniel 11:24) for his invasion plans.  And Jesus will return about 3 1/2 years after the start of the Great Tribulation (which is something that Ronald Weinland used to teach, but changed when he was proven wrong on Pentecost in 2012).

The Great Tribulation is coming, but it will not begin in 2013.  And, as I announced after Barack Obama was re-elected, I do not believe that it can begin prior to 2017.

Articles of related interest may include:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, that Jesus would return on May 27, 2012, and then claimed that Jesus would return on May 19, 2013 (he originally had Jesus returning on September 28/29 2011). Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? Why do Ronald Weinland’s own statements prove that he is a false prophet? Additionally, he has other views which show he is not truly part of the Church of God.
How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God There are many false prophets. How can Christians determine who is a true prophet? What does the New Testament actually teach on this subject? There is also a YouTube video about this which is also titled How to determine if someone is a true prophet of God .
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
Error-Ridden James Malm Not Doing an Elijah Work James Malm is an ‘independent’ who misunderstands and improperly maligns.
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2013, 2014, or 2015? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000? See also the video Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2013? have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God There are many false prophets. How can Christians determine who is a true prophet? There is also a sermon-length video titled How to determine if someone is a true prophet of God. Here is a related link in Spanish/español: ¿Cómo determinar si alguien es un verdadero profeta de Dios?
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