April 17th is Not the Start of the Tribulation

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Ronald Weinland Says His Books Are What He Wants Potential Supporters to Closely Study. The COGwriter Site Instead Urges Those Interested in Him and End-Time Prophecies to Spend More Time Checking His Writings with the Bible.


Tomorrow, unless they misunderstand certain news events, some followers of Ronald Weinland will hopefully realize that the 1260 days of the Great Tribulation did not start and that April 17, 2008 is not the start of the blowing of the first trumpet of the seventh seal in the Book of Revelation.

Many, however, will probably take a few more weeks to realize this. While Ronald Weinland was fairly insistent in Nov-Dec 2007 that major events would occur from February-April 2008, he recently has been giving himself more time (though he says he is through if events do not happen by mid-June, or early-September for details see Ronald Weinland: False Prophet by Mid-June and Ronald Weinland Seems to Give Himself More Time, But Done By Labor Day).

Some will probably wonder what explanation that Ronald Weinland will give this upcoming Sabbath, April 19th.

Most likely Ronald Weinland will say that something happened to Pope Benedict XVI around April 17th, that what actually happened that day was spiritual, that now we are waiting until Pentecost (a holy day which falls on June 8th this year) for the next major event, and that world events support the false April 17th date. 

Pope Benedict XVI is currently in the USA and met with President Bush yesterday, and Ronald Weinland is expected this Saturday to make some claim about something that he will most likely state will have happened to the Pope tomorrow.

But Ronald Weinland has been wrong with every date so far. His followers should wake up and not linger.  Nor accept whatever explanation he will provide this Saturday.

Having listened to Ronald Weinland through some of his sermons as well as The Edge radio interview in December 2007, as well as reading some of his books, I can somewhat understand how some were misled into following him. But by now, it should be becoming obvious to more and more that he is NOT one of God’s two witnesses.

Recall what he wrote in November 2007:

Beginning in February, those thunders will increase dramatically, and by April this world will begin to be shaken to its foundations.

Everything I am doing, and everything the Church of God – PKG is doing is geared towards these realities. There is no wavering and there is no hesitation!…

February will be here soon! Don’t squander the time that is in front of you. Use it wisely! (Weinland R. YEAR NEARLY OVER. November 24, 2007. http://www.ronaldweinland.com/ viewed 01/15/08).

I did not squander my time in February and made many efforts to warn people that Ronald Weinland was wrong about February.

But a few weeks after November, he seemed to give himself a little more time when he stated the following in his interview on The Edge, 12/15/07:

A little after April…a dollar bill won’t be worth anything…We’re going to be brought down the tubes, very quickly, starting in April…What happens when a nuclear weapon goes off in New York and Chicago?…

If we come to the point in time where what I’ve said doesn’t come to pass, the reality is that I’m just a false prophet. That’s the bottom line…

The reality is if it doesn’t happen, then you’re just false…I’ll acknowledge my error, my wrong, if I’m wrong

Tomorrow, according to his previous statements, is the beginning of the last 3 1/2 years (time, times, and half a time, or 1260 days) before Jesus is to return. And while Ronald Weinland apparently will claim that what happened was supposed to be spiritual, notice one of the things that the Bible says is supposed to happen:

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time
(Daniel 7:25).

…it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished (Daniel 12:7).

And while the Pope often makes statements that we in the Living Church of God would construe as “pompous words against the Most High” the truth is that church members, like myself, will not be physically nor spiritually turned over to the Pope or whoever Ronald Weinland will probably claim fulfills part of this tomorrow. This type of prophesied persecution simply cannot happen tomorrow (see The King of the North and also Persecutions by Church and State).

People really need to check his “prophecies” and compare them to the Bible. Ronald Weinland is NOT one of God’s prophets.

On the other hand, Ronald Weinland did correctly point out many problems in the world’s churches. He does understand that the United States is going downhill and will be destroyed. He does understand certain doctrines better than the Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox do.

He also correctly taught that life is a learning process and that by learning more one can come into the knowledge of truth.

While I did not originally have major doubts about Ronald Weinland’s sincerity, I did feel that by first appointing himself a prophet and then one of the two witnesses, that he deluded himself and crossed the line.

So now, those of you who are finally waking up to the fact that Ronald Weinland misunderstood biblical prophecies, what will you do? Remember that in December 2007, he specifically indicated nuclear attacks in various large USA cities would be occurring very soon (please see Ronald Weinland: Nuclear Attack May be Mid-April 2008) though he recently seemed to have added another 45-90 days to that (see Ronald Weinland: False Prophet by Mid-June).

Will you who listened to Ronald Weinland “seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness” (Matthew 6:33) or turn away from God because you were misled by the self-appointed Ronald Weinland?

For years I have warned against following Ronald Weinland. I have also pointed out that I felt that he was fulfilling the following prophecy in 2 Peter 2:

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber (2 Peter 2:1-3).

Please do not let the fact that he was NOT God’s prophet let “the way of truth will be blasphemed” by you and others that you know.

Remember that God inspired Peter to write those verses in 2 Peter to warn you (and others) that this type of thing would happen!

The Church of God has more biblical truth than any of the world’s churches. The fact that Ronald Weinland was able to reach some of you because he had SOME of the truth (as he once was part of the Church of God), does not mean that the TRUTH he taught was wrong–but that he also taught many things that were not true.

His prophetic failures mainly mean that he was a false prophet (and he also misunderstood the truth about Jesus) who did not get enough of his teachings from the Bible itself.

Peter also wrote about these type of leaders:

They are presumptuous, self-willed (2 Peter 2:10).

Please pray about what you went through and act on the truth that you have. Do not let “the way of truth will be blasphemed” by you because some of you were misled by a self-appointed prophet.

As I have been warning people for a long time, because there is no King of the North or King of the South yet, the Great Tribulation COULD NOT begin in 2008.

And those who studied the Bible, and not overlooked it because of sermons and books from people such as Ronald Weinland, will realize that the Great Tribulation will not begin tomorrow.

It will not be the Bible that will be disappointing the followers of Ronald Weinland next month. However, ignoring what the Bible teaches, because of human perception of world events, will be disappointing to those who are listening to him.

Recall that Christians are to “walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Corinthians 5:7). And part of that means, when one hears a new message that seems promising, to search “the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11).

IF the followers of Ronald Weinland will do that now, they will realize that since what should have already happened.


BECAUSE THE EVENTS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE that would happen at the 1335 and 1290 days (which supposedly were 2/02/08 and 3/18/08 respectively per Ronald Weinland’s teachings) DID NOT HAPPEN. Hopefully, his followers will soon realize that he is also wrong about what will happen near or shortly after April 17, 2008 (the start of the 1260 according to HIM, not God).

People should not confuse certain world events, which MAY be what Jesus called “the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:8) with the actual Great Tribulation which comes later (Matthew 24:21). Sorrows may be increasing now, but they pale in comparison to what truly lies ahead.

For one example, notice a specific event that Jesus taught came AFTER the “beginning of sorrows” and BEFORE the Great Tribulation that simply HAS NOT YET COME TO PASS:

15 Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains (Matthew 24:15-16).

I did NOT SEE THAT. Did YOU actually SEE it?

Nor were there reports of Christ’s true followers actually fleeing to the mountains of Judea the past few weeks. This means, of course, that Ronald Weinland is NOT God’s prophet.  Since the above did not yet occur, then the Great Tribulation CANNOT START TOMORROW EVEN IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNIFICANT TERRORIST EVENTS.

Understand that the Bible is true, but Ronald Weinland is NOT and was NOT a true prophet. He is not and was not one of God’s two witnesses. Please do not let the fact that he was NOT God’s prophet let “the way of truth will be blasphemed” by you and others that you know.

Several articles of related interest may include:

There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God?This is an article for those who wish to easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.
Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up and that the end will come in 2008. Events demonstrate that he waa a false prophet.
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
Jesus is God, But Was Made Man Was Jesus fully human and fully God or what? What don’t the Unitarians or Trinitarians know?
There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be PetraThis article discusses a biblical ‘place of safety’ and includes quotes from the Bible and Herbert W. Armstrong on this subject–thus, there is a biblically supported alternative to the rapture theory. The Bible explains protection differently than Ronald Weinland did.
The History of Early Christianity Are you aware that what most people believe is not what truly happened to the true Christian church? Do you know where the early church was based? Do you know what were the doctrines of the early church? Is your faith really based upon the truth or compromise?

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