CGPFKG’s Ron Weinland falsely thinks he has the correct date now for Jesus’ return



Ronald Weinland of the Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God (CGPFKF) had the following published at his website today):

May 19, 2015

This will be the third Pentecost that God’s Church will have observed since Pentecost of 2012, the date we had previously believed was Christ’s return. This will also be the last Pentecost in this current sixth cycle of 1260 days in the measuring of the Temple of God – the Church. In the fourth Pentecost from this one, in 2019, we believe that the “complete count” to the actual coming of Christ and the Firstfruits (the 144,000) of God will be fulfilled. …

We have been given a great deal already concerning the unfathomable scale for the mathematical probabilities of so many events and timing to occur as they have been since the 17th of December in 1994 (the day of the Apostasy) to Pentecost of 2019 that it truly staggers the mind to try to grasp it all.

Like the deceased, and also discredited Harold Camping, Ronald Weinland focuses on his mathematical calculations and overlooks the signs that the Bible said to look for.  It is not that calculations can have no role, but with the signs that Jesus referred to (Matthew 24) which included matters in the Book of Daniel, people like Ronald Weinland and his followers continue to deceive themselves

This is actually his fourth or fifth date, depending on how you count them. Three previous wrong dates Ron Weinland had for Jesus’ return were September 29, 2011; May 27, 2012; and May 19, 2013. He also had indicated June 8, 2014, yet unlike those previous dates that he fairly strongly insisted upon, he was not as certain about his June 8, 2014 date. Which did not happen.

He now is insisting on June 9, 2019 which is Pentecost in 2019 (dates for the Holy Days until 2024 are in the link Holy Day Calendar).  Pentecost of 2015 runs from Saturday May23rd through sunset Sunday May 24th.

But irrespective of how many times he has been wrong in the past, he will also be wrong about 2019. It is NOT POSSIBLE for Jesus to return in 2019.

Despite errors in his writings, Ronald Weinland has made such bold and false statements about his writings such as:

Everything stated in the books are going to come to pass…they are absolute (Weinland R. Ordinations and Baptisms, pt. 4. Sermon, Dallas, Texas, January 23, 2010).

But the reality is that much of what he has taught has not come to pass–and certainly not when he claimed it would. His writings simply are not absolute in terms of truth and prophecies. The Bible is absolutely accurate, while Ronald Weinland’s writings have repeatedly proven not to be.

I have seen no attendance figures, but suspect those that actually consider themselves part of CG-PKG and no other group are less than about 200 –but this is only my personal guess (and he seems to have lost many since his May 27, 2012 date was proven to be false).

Ronald Weinland is too into allegory and simply does not understand much of what the Books of Revelation, Matthew, and Daniel teach on many matters.

I have denounced Ronald Weinland since 2005/2006 and while his predictions have repeatedly proven to have been wrong, every denouncement of his predictions that I posted here have been correct. I have long written that I believed that the following was applicable to Ronald Weinland:

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3).

Destruction has been occurring related to Ronald Weinland’s reputation, organizational influence, personal finances, and his living conditions. Now, while I believe that Ronald Weinland was more guilty of ignorance of tax law than being criminally guilty of evasion, I believe that God allowed him to be imprisoned because of his repeated false prophecies and insistence that he was speaking for God when he was not.

For those unfamiliar with him, Ronald Weinland was a former WCG then UCG minister who falsely claimed to be a prophet and one of the two witnesses (he claimed that his wife was the second of the witnesses), Elijah, an Apostle, etc. He wrote about book claiming that 2008 would be the start of the Great Tribulation, with Jesus supposedly to have returned on September 29, 2011. He has long demonstrated a tendency to believe his own false writings above the Bible. Ron Weinland was convicted of multiple counts of income tax fraud in June 2012 (see CGPFKG’s Ron Weinland Found Guilty of Income Tax Evasion) and went to prison for in on February 1, 2013 (see CGPFKG’s Ronald Weinland to report to prison today). He is currently in prison.


First of all, Jesus gave a variety of signs/events that had to happen prior the start of the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24 and taught that He would not come until AFTER the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31). The Great Tribulation itself has not yet started.

Not only have many of the preceding signs Jesus told of not happened yet, a preceding event in Daniel 9:27 involving the confirmation of a seven-year deal still has not happened. Since it did not happen yet, this means that it is not possible for the Great Tribulation to begin for at least 3 1/2 years (half of a biblically-prophetic week).

Additional reasons are in the article When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? and The ‘Peace Deal’ of Daniel 9:27 (here is a link to a related sermon video Daniel 9:27 and the Start of the Great Tribulation).

At this instant, unless we see even more major conflict in the Middle East between now and the end of the Summer, it is unlikely that the Great Tribulation can begin prior to 2019. And Jesus will not come until 3 1/2 years after it begins.

Since the Great Tribulation cannot happen yet, what are some specific events to look for which occur prior to the Great Tribulation?

The basic sequence is that certain sorrows and troubles will continue (Mark 13:7-8).

The ‘peace’ deal of Daniel 9:27 is confirmed.

A King of the North and a King of the South (Daniel 11:27) will arise.

Animal sacrifices will begin (cf. Daniel 9:27; see also The ‘Peace Deal’ of Daniel 9:27). (Note: It is possible that the King of the South could arise up prior to Daniel 9:27 or even after the sacrifices resume as could the King of the North as this part of the prophetic sequence is not as explicit).

The gospel of the kingdom then will have been preached enough to the world as a witness for the end to come (Matthew 24:14). This seems to be related to the ‘short work’ of Romans 9:28.

Jewish sacrifices will be stopped (Daniel 9:27).

The abomination of desolation will then be set up (Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14) because of actions of the King of the North (Daniel 9:27; 11:31). The most faithful expect to continue to tell what is happening until they are somehow stopped (cf. Amos 8:11-12; see also The Final Phase of the Work).

A decree is to be issued (Zephaniah 2:1-3) and then the most faithful Philadelphians will flee per Jesus’ statements in Matthew 24:15-19 and Mark 13:15-18 (see also There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra).

Bolstered by the Antichrist, then the Great Tribulation will begin (Matthew 24:21-22; Mark 13:19-20; Daniel 11:39, 12:1b; see also
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin?).

About a month or so less than 2 ½ years later, the sixth seal will be opened, there will be a ‘blood moon’ and a darkened sun (Revelation 6:12; Joel 2:30-31; see also Blood Moons and Prophecy), then the 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8 will be sealed.

Shortly thereafter, the seventh seal will be opened (Revelation 8:1-6) and year long Day of the Lord (Isaiah 34:8) will begin with trumpet blasts, plagues, etc. (Revelation 8-7-13; 9:1-21; 11”13-14). Then at the seventh trumpet (Revelation 11:15) Jesus will return to establish the millennial kingdom.

Ronald Weinland neglects much of that in his false pronouncements.

The main point of COGwriter posts about him is to warn all not to let false prophets and false apostles like Ron Weinland turn people away from the God of the Bible. Sadly, because of false prophets like Ronald Weinland, many who hope that they are Philadelphian Christians have discounted the fact that prophets are an office that should be in the end time Church of God. But overlooking what the Bible says (and the Bible does warn of false prophets, and also tells how to determine a true one in Matthew 7:15-23), they, like the people of ancient Israel, truly cannot discern a true prophet. All should read and study the article How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God.

False predictions by various ones (see Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible and End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? ), including several who claim to be COG whom I personally correctly denounced when I learned of certain of their predictions (Ronald Weinland, David Pack, William Dankenbring, James Malm, Gerald Flurry), are desensitizing many in the world and even in the Church of God away from believing the reality of properly understood biblical prophecy.

This was expected and predicted by the Apostle Peter:

1 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation — as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen. (2 Peter 3:1-14)

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

Now while people truly in the Church of God believe that they believe Bible prophecy, most live their lives like it is something that has been so exaggerated in the past that they do not take the immediacy of it to heart. Yet, the Apostle Paul warned that Christians should not be like those in the world who will be surprised by end time events, but, “Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober” (1 Thessalonians 5:2-6). The Apostle Paul also wrote:

20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:20-21)

Yet, consciously or unconsciously, many act like they do despise prophecies.

The Apostle John wrote that Christians are to “test the spirits, whether they are of God” (1 John 4:1).

But many do not seem to understand what that means. Norman Edwards (former WCG/GCG), recently and correctly wrote (see also Shepherd’s Voice: COG needs more prophets):

Note: If there were no true prophets, there would be no need to “test the spirits”—because every prophet would be a “false prophet”. But because there are both true prophets and false prophets, we need to “test the spirits”.

Because of so many false prophets and false prophecies, many who claim to be Christian, COG or otherwise, feel that they cannot believe that God could possibly have any true prophets today. That is an error. Sadly, like many who believed that they were following God in the past (Acts 7:52), most people have rationalized that they themselves would clearly know whose God’s prophet(s) is(are) (cf. Matthew 23:29-30), yet they have established criteria for that which are not consistent with what the New Testament teaches (for details, please study How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God). Jesus told the Pharisees that an adulterous generation sought signs, beyond biblical and prophetic accuracy (Matthew 12:38-40), and that happens today.

Let me also state that those who do not believe that God has any one in the office of prophet at this time are either parts of groups that have teachings that will prevent them from knowing when the Great Tribulation will begin, until it is too late for protection (a listing of them is included in the article The Laodicean Church Era).  Those who are ‘independent’ of any group also are deceiving themselves if they believe that they truly will be able to wait until the last instant to be protected (cf. Zephaniah 2:1-3; watch also Zephaniah’s ‘Gather Together’ Prophecy).

It is my hope and prayer by pointing out WHY people like Ronald Weinland are wrong, that those who have love of the truth will not be misled by those who are not God’s prophets nor those who discount that God could have any prophets now.

Some items of possible interest related to prophecy may include:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up, that the Great Tribulation began on December 14, 2008, that Jesus would return on May 27, 2012, and then claimed that Jesus would return on May 19, 2013 (he originally had Jesus returning on September 28/29 2011), and later pointed to June 8, 2014, and then June 9, 2019. Why does the Bible show that Ron Weinland is a false prophet? Why do Ronald Weinland’s own statements prove that he is a false prophet? Additionally, he has other views which show he is not truly part of the Church of God.
How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God There are many false prophets. How can Christians determine who is a true prophet? There is also a sermon-length video titled How to determine if someone is a true prophet of God. Here is a related link in Spanish/español: ¿Cómo determinar si alguien es un verdadero profeta de Dios?
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
The ‘Peace Deal’ of Daniel 9:27 This prophecy could give up to 3 1/2 years advance notice of the coming Great Tribulation. Will most ignore or misunderstand its fulfillment? Here is a link to a related sermon video Daniel 9:27 and the Start of the Great Tribulation.
There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra This article discusses a biblical ‘place of safety’ and includes quotes from the Bible and Herbert W. Armstrong on this subject–thus, there is a biblically supported alternative to the rapture theory. There is also a video on the subject: Might Petra be the Place of Safety?  Here is something related in the Spanish language: Hay un lugar de seguridad para los Filadelfinos. ¿Puede ser Petra?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? Does God have 7,000 year plan? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2022 or 202x?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2015, 2016, or 2017? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000? Here is a version of the article in the Spanish language: ¿Puede comenzar la Gran Tribulación en 2014 o 2015? ¿Es el Tiempo de los Gentiles? You can also see the English language sermon video: The Great Tribulation from the Mount of Olives.
Blood Moons and Prophecy There are four ‘blood moons’ expected in 2014 and 2015. Do they signal the Day of the Lord or the return of Jesus Christ? A related YouTube video is also available: Blood Moons, Prophecy, 2014, and 2015.
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.
Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible Harold Camping taught that the rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and the world would end on October 21, 2011. What does the Bible show?
The Final Phase of the Work What is the final phase of the work? Who will lead it? Do you have the courage to support it? Here is a related YouTube video titled The Final Phase of the Work. The written article has been translated into Spanish La Fase Final de la Obra.
Leading the Final Phase of the Work Matthew 24:14 teaches “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come ” will be fulfilled and RCG is not the group doing this. Who is leading the final phase of the work? What did Herbert Armstrong and the old WCG teach about that and about prophets? Does Bob Thiel meet the criteria that the Bible and the old WCG set? What is the proof? What has the Continuing Church of God been doing? This is a sermonette length video.
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. The Laodiceans are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG or its offshoots.  They do not properly understand the work or biblical prophecies and will face the Great Tribulation if they do not repent.

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