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The 7th Day Sabbath Church of God website has the following on its news page:

Church of God an International Community
The Church has been unable to continue financing the print version of its quarterly magazine Vision. The Internet version has been re-designed, entailing a complete overhaul of the website, which now embodies every issue – from 1999 to 2016 – in English, French, German and Spanish.Its development is continuing, with a bible study course soon to be added.
The August 2016 issue of its Church of God News is now available on-line.
Living Church of God

Roderick Meredith has normally written co-worker letters every month or two, but in July he has sent out his third letter in consecutive weeks. His second letter on July 12th called for a church-wide fast for the Sabbath of July 30th – after receiving “a very heartfelt note from one of our leading younger ministers,” saying “… I know that in the past, our Church-wide fasts are often in relation to an ‘event.’ However, as you have noted, it seems that we are under ‘spiritual attack.’ In addition, it seems like many of God’s people are ‘letting down’ spiritually and are more sensitive to offence and rumor.”
The ‘spiritual attack’ is the lawsuit by the Scarboroughs, and there is actually a related ‘event’ – a 2 hour court hearing on the Monday after this scheduled fast, when LCG’s lawyers will be attempting to get the case dismissed.
His latest letter acknowledges at last that the internet is now a more important medium than print or TV: “… we have been very encouraged by the growth in our worldwide Internet impact. Although we are quite small by the world’s standards, God has greatly blessed our various Internet efforts in helping us utilize new technology to reach new people whom we may not otherwise reach through classic print media or cable or satellite television. For example, in 2016 we began investing more to promote the Tomorrow’s World telecast on all of the main streaming-video-on-demand (SVOD) Internet platforms, including Roku, GoogleTV, AppleTV and Amazon FireTV. Just as we also do with conventional television, we measure the expenses and the results on Internet television to ensure that we are being ‘good stewards’ of God’s tithes and offerings, and the results have been quite encouraging! For example, our SVOD platforms are now producing many hundreds of responses per week, and are in recent weeks bringing in more subscribers than some of our nationwide television stations! … our 2016 Roku advertising campaign in particular has generated more than 3.2 million ad impressions, increasing our installation base to now well over 45,000! On the Internet, we have long advertised Tomorrow’s World magazine, Tomorrow’s World telecast and other material all around the world. And recently we have begun testing additional, intensive geographic advertising in a few cities, including Charlotte, Toronto, London, Johannesburg and Harrismith, South Africa, Adelaide, Australia, and Mexico City.
Additionally, we are reaching increasing numbers every month with telecasts and webcasts on YouTube. As many of you know, people are increasingly watching video over the Internet on their ‘Smartphones’ and other computers, so this is another area where we are really investing time and energy, and we are thankful for the results so far! To share some encouraging numbers with each of you, currently the English-language YouTube page has generated more than 6.7 million views, the French-language YouTube page now has more than 500,000 views, and the Spanish-language YouTube page recently passed 4.6 million views! …

And, as we see tightening ‘censorship’ and hostility to God’s Truth increasing around the world, we have already seen on more than a few occasions where some local television station will censor or reject one of our telecasts, but that telecast is still able to be seen on one of our many Internet platforms.”

In October 2014 we reported about Roderick Meredith’s audio sermon, God’s Government Is Vital, in which he said, “I’ve asked Mr McNair and Mr League, they’ve been working as a team to get all the information on many of these things, and I’m working with them and other leaders … We’re trying to keep God’s church clean.”
“We found that some of these people we’ve had to put out … they often lie and lie, and they’ll twist and turn, and turn things around …”

This was a must playsermon for the Day of Atonement, together with a sermonette by Rod McNair, Ministerial Authority is Based on Love, in which he set out three measures for disciplining members who cause division within the church by refusing to submit fully to the authority of ministers: Suspension, Disfellowshipping and Marking. This is all done in love, he says, as “love will cover a multitude of sins” (1 Peter 4:8).

(Bob League, who was named in the legal action by the Scarboroughs, alongside Meredith and McNair, died in January 2015.)

LCG removed the link to the sermon, ‘due to issues with the item’s content’, but one of our readers has provided a new link to God’s Government Is Vital.

Philadelphia Church of GodA former PCG member has reported (on Exit & Support Network – July 22) that Gerald Flurry has widened his ‘no contact’ rule:-“My mate has former friends from PCG who have told of a brand new ruling sent down from King Flurry that was announced last Sabbath. Jerry Flurry, in his ‘omnipotent wisdom’, has ruled that now all contact with unbaptized children who have left the PCG is to be terminated immediately.
It has been the policy for years that parents were still allowed to talk to children who have left the PCG only If they were unbaptized. Now Pope Flurry has even taken away that small mercy.
The talk amongst the children now affected by this judgment is that this will push many PCG families over the edge and force them to leave or get put out. Others feel that this will put one more nail in the coffin of Flurryism. Flurry is looking more and more like ‘mad King George’, as his actions are ruining the PCG. All of his egomaniacal pipe dreams have come to nothing. The dig in Jerusalem has failed. The PCG radio station broadcast from the Edmond compound has failed. Membership has plummeted since the late 90s and there is almost no growth. Some wonder that in the end all that will be left is a small ‘Jonestown faithful’ secluded on the Edmond compound.

Continuing Church of God

Robert Thiel writes: “We are pleased to announce that a group from Serbia has declared that it wants to be part of the Continuing Church of God.”

The leader of the Serbian group is Aleksandar (Sasha) Veljic, who has had articles published both about him and by him since the days of In Transition. Alignment with the CCG will fulfill his ‘zeal to translate’.
In the October 1996 issue, editor John Robinson writes: “In its second issue (May 26, 1995), In Transition ran Mr. Veljic’s account of Sabbath-keepers in Ukraine and the hardships they endure to keep the faith. Mr. Veljic had been part of the pioneer group, then sponsored by the Ambassador Foundation, that taught English fellow Sabbatarians in Ukraine in July and August 1994…
Before enrolling at AU he had learned of the WCG through an aunt he was visiting in England. He was baptized in March 1992 by two ministers based in England. ‘As they were counseling me for baptism,’ Mr. Veljic said, ‘they dwelled on counting the costs. They asked me if I was willing to die for my beliefs. Both of these men have now rejected the truths they asked me if I was willing to die for’…
Mr. Veljic speaks his native Serbian, Russian, English and Spanish and is hard at work on Italian…
‘I’ve translated some things into Serbian, and Croatian is very similar. I feel a passion to get the truth out. There are 15 to 20 million living in the former Yugoslavia. The gospel hasn’t gone out in my native language. Some have told me the work is finished; it’s been done. But I don’t believe it. I believe God’s greatest still work lies ahead.’ Mr. Veljic said he has a ‘zeal to translate,’ but he isn’t interested in being a leader. ‘I have no ministerial aspirations.’
Sasha Veljic writes in his recent e-mail to CCG’s Robert Thiel:
[full text here]

“In the beginning of 1995, the apostasy set in and I organized a student underground at Ambassador College. Later, I survived the United Church of God mess and joined David Hulme as I believed he was going to be the one to lead God’s people faithfully. In the course of time it became apparent that he was rather interested in his own career and was planning to change various doctrines. Thus, I was gradually pushed out of Church of God – an International Community in 2005, because I wasn’t going to give up on prophecy, identity of Israel and relations with friends in various COGs. In 2014, some of my friends felt compelled to leave COG-IC and called for reconciliation [The Father’s Call].

I renewed my contact with them as I responded to their call for reconciliation. I was offered a contact with a minister in Europe, but I had no plans to join that group. I wanted to see where it was heading to. This year I established cordial relations with you based on the end-time Work you have been doing. In spite of all my earlier disappointing results in cooperation with some COG leaders, I decided to give it again a chance, because I realize that I cannot really achieve anything worthwhile on my own, nor do I want to be a ‘lone wolf’…
So far I didn’t feel I could really trust any COG leadership to the point of cooperating with them and joining their groups. And sadly, mostly to their shame I would say, my translation talent was not used, and the Work in Serbia, however small, could not pick up the pace due to their lack of interest…

Since you have entrusted me to do what I can do well (translation/editing), my experience with you is different. It is especially refreshing to see your commitment to virtually reach all the nations!”

COGwriter comments:

Church of God, an International Community

As far as David Hulme’s COGaIC goes, it never accomplished what those who first went with it hoped it would. It is likely that salaries of the remaining ministry and staff are preventing COGaIC from printing its Vision magazine anymore. Vision was supposedly aimed at a more high-brow crowd, and tended to be light in unique Church of God doctrine.  Groups like COGaIC have had a different proclamation focus than the Continuing Church of God has had.

Living Church of God

Earlier today I posted about the fast, the Scarborough lawsuit, and some other statements that LCG’s Dr. Meredith made this month. They can be found at the News of those once affiliated with the Global Church of God.

The Bible teaches:

4 For the word of the Lord is right, And all His work is done in truth. 5 He loves righteousness and justice; The earth is full of the goodness of the Lord. (Psalms 33:4-5)

This was not what I saw in the 2012 LCG, nor since. LCG was willing to say it was doing the work of God, but was not willing to fully do it in proper truth. Plus, writings LCG put out about me in 2012 showed that it did NOT love righteousness and justice. Some who review the Scarborough matter may conclude that I was not the only one LCG did not show righteousness and justice to.

As far as church governance goes, LCG has major issues in properly implementing that. While there are often naysayers, the reality is that in various ways, LCG has not practiced biblical governance, nor properly ruled in accordance with statements its top leader has made (see The Bible, Peter, Paul, John, Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, Roderick C. Meredith, and Bob Thiel on Church Government).

I left LCG because it had serious integrity issues (see Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God). Integrity issues LCG, still, has remained unwilling to properly repent of.

The  final phase of the work must be done in truth (cf. Psalm 33:4; Isaiah 61:8). It is NOT to be done deceitfully:

10 Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord deceitfully, (Jeremiah 48:10)

As Jesus told the Laodiceans (Revelation 3:14-19), hopefully those in LCG will repent. Those interested in more about LCG may wish to check out the article What About the Living Church of God? Are there Doctrinal Differences with the Continuing Church of God?

Philadelphia Church of God

As regular readers of this page are aware, I have always considered that Gerald Flurry’s PCG was NOT Philadelphian. Philadelphia means ‘love of the brethren’ and PCG has long had what I consider to be mean and hateful practices towards others.

While I have not been able to personally validate the latest claim of PCG’s non-contact position, it is consistent with some other ones that PCG has put out in the past (see Teachings Unique to the Philadelphia Church of God).

When Jesus admonished the Laodiceans, He DID NOT tell other Christians that they could not have contact with Laodiceans.

The only ‘non-contact’ with people who are supposed to be Church of God Christians are for those that are specifically marked/disfellowshipped for cause, or for continuing in certain sins.

Which sins?

The Apostle Paul wrote:

11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner — not even to eat with such a person. (1 Corinthians 5:11)

The Apostle Paul did not say not to be in contact with some being in another COG (see also 1 Corinthians 3:4). Nor did Jesus.

While I do believe that there still are some COG Christians in PCG, I have personally long doubted Gerald Flurry’s claim to being Christian. The anti-fellowship positions Gerald Flurry has advocated certainly are not Philadelphian.

Continuing Church of God

Earlier this month, I announced that various ones in Serbia asked to become part of the CCOG (see Serbians ask to become part of the Continuing Church of God).

But I did not report the information about its leader from the old In Transition publication.

Anyway, in the Continuing Church of God we have had more international focus on working to fulfill Matthew 24:14 and Matthew 28:19-20 than other groups I am aware of.

Those in Serbia realized by our actions/fruits that we were serious about that, and so now they  are with us.

The Continuing Church of God has grown in members and reach each year since it needed to be formally declared in late 2012.

Some items of possibly related interest may include:

Where is the True Christian Church Today? This free online pdf booklet answers that question and includes 18 proofs, clues, and signs to identify the true vs. false Christian church. Plus 7 proofs, clues, and signs to help identify Laodicean churches. A related sermon is also available: Where is the True Christian Church? Here is a link to the booklet in the Spanish language: ¿Dónde está la verdadera Iglesia cristiana de hoy? Here is a link in the German language: WO IST DIE WAHRE CHRISTLICHE KIRCHE HEUTE? Here is a link in the French language: Où est la vraie Église Chrétienne aujourd’hui?
Continuing History of the Church of God This pdf booklet is a historical overview of the true Church of God and some of its main opponents from Acts 2 to the 21st century. Related sermon links include Continuing History of the Church of God: c. 31 to c. 300 A.D. and Continuing History of the Church of God: 4th-16th Centuries. The booklet is available in Spanish: Continuación de la Historia de la Iglesia de Dios, German: Kontinuierliche Geschichte der Kirche Gottes, and Ekegusii Omogano Bw’ekanisa Ya Nyasae Egendererete.
Joyce’s Pictures of the Pasadena Campus of Ambassador College and the former Headquarters of the old Worldwide Church of God Here are some pictures of the old campus taken in 2016 for those interested in what it did look like and what remains–plus three buildings that are no longer there.
Church of God, an International Community (COG aic) This is the group led by David Hulme. It seems to minimize parts of biblical prophecy.
Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God Several have speculated reasons, but here is the truth. (En el idioma español: ¿Por qué Bob Thiel dejó la Iglesia del Dios Viviente?)
Journal Report on Continuing Church of God Leader Bob Thiel Bob Thiel was interviewed by The Journal News of the Churches of God related to him being a prophet, the proclamation goals of the Continuing Church of God, and why he left LCG.
Response to a Letter from Dr. Roderick C. Meredith Dated December 28, 2012 In violation of Matthew 18, Dr. Meredith publicly sent out a letter that forced Dr. Thiel to conclude that the Continuing Church of God must be formed. Here is that letter and some of Bob Thiel’s comments about it. Here is a version in the Spanish language Respuesta a una carta del Dr. Roderick C. Meredith fechada el 28 de diciembre, 2012.
What About the Living Church of God? Are there Doctrinal Differences with the Continuing Church of God? This article explains some information and doctrines of the Living Church of God as led by Roderick C. Meredith and some concerns about them. (En el idioma español: ¿Qué hay acerca de la Iglesia de Dios Viviente? ¿Hay diferencias doctrinales con la Continuación de la Iglesia de Dios?)
Teachings Unique to the Philadelphia Church of God Simply calling oneself ‘Philadelphia’ does not make one so (see Revelation 3:7-9), nor does Gerald Flurry calling himself “that prophet” make it so. This article provides many quotes from this group which tries to look faithful.
CCOG.ORG Continuing Church of God The group striving to be most faithful amongst all real Christian groups to the word of God. To see how CCOG has done so far, here are links to two sermons Continuing Church of God (CCOG) first year anniversary: What has been accomplished? and The Continuing Church of God: Two Years of Proclamation. Here is a written link to a version of that sermon in the Spanish language: Aniversario del primer año de la Continuación de la Iglesia de Dios: ¿Qué se ha cumplido?
The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now the remnant of that era is basically the most faithful in the Church of God, like who hold to the beliefs and practices of the Continuing Church of God.
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. The Laodiceans are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG or its offshoots.  They do not properly understand the work or biblical prophecies and will face the Great Tribulation if they do not repent. One video of related interest is 17 Laodicean Errors in Prophecy.

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