PCG on Obama and Iran

Gerald Flurry of the Philadelphia Church of God
Gerald Flurry


Gerald Flurry’s, self-appointed prophet of his so-called Philadelphia Church of God, wrote the following:

June 22, 2009 | From theTrumpet.com

Barack Obama’s speech is a great turning point in this world...

.S. President Barack Obama traveled to the Middle East at the beginning of June. He met with the leaders of two key Arab nations and had private conversations with them. After visiting Saudi Arabia, he delivered his keynote foreign-policy speech at Cairo University in Egypt to define America’s relationship with the Muslim world.

Iran is the most important part of that subject. Iran is the king of terror and makes the Middle East tremble! But President Obama didn’t even mention the word terrorism in his speech!

I have no reason to doubt Mr. Obama’s sincerity, but his words will cause deadly problems…

President Obama thinks that through his words, he will have peace with Iran. But after the terrorists heard that speech, they had to be rejoicing! When America’s president gives a speech like that, the terrorists have contempt for such weakness and are stirred to fight even harder. They can smell the victory. So we can expect violent terrorism to intensify and shake the nations!

We won’t have long to wait to see who is right.

The Obama administration’s plan to deal with the head of the terrorist snake is to tell Iran and its terrorists, America has stopped using torture. He was mainly referring to American interrogators waterboarding three super-terrorists under the supervision of a doctor. Showing such weakness to the terrorists only adds fuel to the terrorist fire!

Those terrorist murderers go around cutting off people’s heads, shooting men, women and children, and blowing up buildings. Yet even if terrorists are captured and have information about the next bomb to be exploded—maybe a nuclear bomb—the president believes you can’t use waterboarding to get that information from them…

“And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him [here’s the Iranian king of terror—the king of the Middle East]: and the king of the north [the resurrected Holy Roman Empire in Europe] shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over” (Daniel 11:40). This is an end-time prophecy about how powerful and aggressive radical Islam is, and it’s rapidly growing stronger. Iran’s foreign policy is to bully and push its way into controlling the Middle East. It will take more than nice words to stop this pushy terrorist nation. That elephant in the room—the king of terror—Mr. Obama almost overlooks altogether!

President Obama’s speech has also shaken the European nations. It will lead to a clash between these two powers as Daniel prophesied. Europe can now see that America will do nothing to stop the king of the south, or the terrorist movement led by Iran.

So the European Union, which will become the Holy Roman Empire, is now moving into the Middle East. After President Obama’s speech, its presence there will speedily increase. Europe is heavily dependent on Middle East oil. It also has a strong spiritual interest in Jerusalem.

According to Daniel’s prophecy, America will not even be on the scene when this military clash occurs. That should alarm America, as well as Britain and the Jewish nation. It means that America is totally absent because of its economic collapse and lack of will to use its military power.

First, I would add that I agree with US President Obama that the USA should not engage in torture for many reasons, including the fact that the USA has signed various international agreements which says that it will NOT torture.

Second,  I would essentially agree to the implication of Gerald Flurry’s position that the USA will not stop the formation of the coming King of the South.  And although the USA may do something to stop certain aspects associated with that coming human kingdom, I have long felt that President Obama would enable the rise of the King of the South (as well as the King of the North).

Third, while Iran does pose potential problems for many reasons, it needs to be pointed out that Gerald Flurry is wrong that Iran will be the future King of the South.

The Bible shows that in Psalm 83 there will be a deal struck between various nations and Assyria–none of the nations listed are pointing to Iran.  This deal seems to be the same one listed in Daniel 11:27 between the Kings of the North and South.  The deal in Psalm 83 according to Herbert W. Armstrong’s old magazine involves the Arabs and the Europeans:

Just as there is yet to be a final “king of the north”…there may very well emerge in the same manner a final “king of the south”–an overall leader of an Arab-Moslem confederation, possibly bearing the very title Mahdi……a prophetic psalm (Psalm 83) provides additional insight into the Mideast picture. Germany (Assyria in Bible prophecy) and perhaps the rest of Europe will be in league in the future with a union of Arab nations…But in the end, this European-Arab alliance will prove short-lived…And the king of the north shall come against him [the king of the south]…The Arab-Moslem Confederation will, of course, be thrown into chaotic disarray in the fact of invasion. (The Arab World in Prophecy. Plain Truth, December 1979)

The reality is that the incorrectly titled Philadelphia Church of God simply does not understand certain aspects of end-time prophecy and is not as consistent with the teachings of the late Herbert W. Armstrong as it claims to be.

Fourth, it should be mentioned that  PCG is correct in its implication that end-time events are lining up and ultimately the USA, the UK, their British-descended allies, and the Jewish nation of Israel will be no more–but it will not be because Iran is the final prophesied King of the South.

While PCG has some errors, what the Bible teaches will still come to pass.  People need to check out the teachings of self-appointed prophets (like Gerald Flurry) with what is written in their Bibles and not let current news events tip them to listen to those who teach doctrines contrary to scripture.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Teachings Unique to the Philadelphia Church of God Simply calling oneself ‘Philadelphia’ does not make one so (see Revelation 3:7-9), nor does Gerald Flurry calling himself “that prophet” make it so. This article provides many quotes from this group which tries to look faithful.
Is There A Future King of the South? Some no longer believe there needs to be. Might Egypt, Islam, Iran, Arabs, or Ethiopia be involved? What does the Bible say?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?
Prophecies of Barack Obama? Eight reasons why Barack Obama is apocalyptic and eight reasons why Barack Obama is not the Antichrist. This article includes many biblical and non-biblical prophecies, from around the world, that seem to discuss Barack Obama. Did Nostradamus predict Barack Obama dealing with the Antichrist?  Might Barack Obama set the stage for the kings of the North and South as at least one Shiite prophecy suggests?  This is the longest and most complete article on this page on Barack Obama prophecies. Read it and decide for yourself if President Obama seems to be fulfilling various prophecies.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States Some claim that Barack Obama is the prophesied “son of Kenya”, based up an early 20th century writing.
Barack Obama in Islamic Prophecy? There is actually a 17th century Shiite prophecy that some believe that Barack Obama will fulfill that will lead to a rising up of Islam.

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